laurie montgomery points out -- host: again, the story this morning looking at tax legislation that wille coming up in the months ahead. james is joining us from carmel, indiana. republican line, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. host: certainly. caller: we had a shooting in our neighborhood a few weeks ago, a young man jealous of his girlfriend's new boyfriend. police on the shooting and three times. the cost of it, there were like a dozen squad cars here, we had to pay to put this boy in the hospital for how many months, we are prosecuting him and putting him in jail, the cost of an illegal gun to taxpayers is tremendous and i have never heard anyone talk but that. your opinion? someones opinion on what it costs taxpayers to have illegal guns on the street? host: what is your opinion? what do you think? caller coat it -- i think -- caller: i think it costs a fortune. they should have insurance on guns, like cars. they say that people kill people, not guns. people drive cars and killed people and they have insurance. i think that gun manufacturers should take this cost

"washington post" reporter lauri montgomery said counting money not spent on wars that the nation is already planning to end is widely viewed as a budget gimmick. and it certainly is. the presiding the senator has used five minutes. mr. sessions: i would ask for one additional moment. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. sessions: basically our colleagues are saying we can't even reduce spending growth even that much. we can't stand any of that. we refuse to lay out alternatives to make the cuts less painful. we want them to be as painful as possible so we can attack those who propose even modest reductions in the growth of spending. we're going to punish the american people because they dared to reduce the growth of spending. they are basically saying, the government is saying it's not our fault we've got a problem. it's yours, american people. you didn't send enough money. you send more money. you send more money. we refuse to reduce the growth of spending. i thank the chair and would yield the floor and thank senator coburn for objecting to the proposal of the majority --