it's widely known that this story dates were looking for snowden's email in lavabit that did you have any contact with your client before or after the case started. why i didn't have any contact with them after the case started that would have been illegal. but what was before. i believe i did send him one email several years back as the result of a support inquiry. do you actually look i've course did not know him personally but right now because snowden's name is so huge huge like the fact that your name is linked with snowden story. i don't dislike it honestly i don't really have an opinion on that. you know it is what it is we neither of us can do anything about it we're just reacting to the world around us let out it could you ever have imagined that ten years of your work would be ruined once you would refuse to cooperate with the fads no i didn't think it would ever come to something like this. you know i thought if there was any country in the world that a free and secure and private email service could operate without interference from the government it would be the united st

like you said your business is smaller so for those who may not know it yet in simple words what is lavabit. we were a email service that was focused on privacy and security and we tended to cater towards heavy e-mail users we were one of the first services to offer pop back cess one of the first services to offer a map access and by that i mean free pop and free i map back cess we never had a very strong webmail offering so we really cater to people who like to do email on their desktop with an application like thunderbird or outlook. it's widely known that this storage is we're looking for snowden's the mail in la the bit that did you have any contact with your client before or after the case started. why didn't have any contact with them after the case started that would have been illegal. but what was before. i believe i did send him one email several years back as the result of a support inquiry. do you actually look i've course did not know him personally but the but right now because snowden's name is so huge huge like the fact that your name is linked with snowden story. i don't dis

mail in lavabit that did you have any contact with your client before or after the case started. why didn't have any contact with them after the case started that would have been illegal. but what was before. i believe i did send him one email several years back as the result of a support inquiry. do you actually like i've course did not know him personally but right now because snowden's name is so huge huge like the fact that your name is linked with snowden story. i don't dislike it honestly i don't really have an opinion on that. you know it is what it is we neither of us can do anything about it we're just reacting to the world around us let out it could you ever have imagined that ten years of your work would be ruined once you would refuse to cooperate with the fads no i didn't think it would ever come to something like this. you know i thought if there was any country in the world that a free and secure and private email service could operate without interference from the government it would be the united states. and i was of course sorely disappointed when i started inte

like you said your business is smallest so for those who may not know it yet in simple words what is lavabit. we were a email service that was focused on privacy and security and we tended to cater towards heavy e-mail users we were one of the first services to offer pop access one of the first services to offer a map access and by that i mean free pop and free.

in an online company be profitable and maintain privacy for its users simultaneously oh certainly lavabitwas you know we were a company that really focused on providing at least as secure an e-mail system as we could given the state of e-mail standards and what we realized based on you know what happened to my company and to what happened to hushmail a few years back is that we can't continue. promising a secure system. if the data is encrypted and. because server based encryption systems like lava bit and hushmail only protect the information once it arrives at our systems and what we really need are new protocols that protect the data from the time it leaves the senders computer until it arrives at the receiver's computer now just moving to i.p.o. like facebook did and twitter is actually now doing. does it make it harder for the company to maintain and protect user data i think it does i think the more investors you have the more voices you have the more pressure there is to go after opportunities to make a profit regardless of the ethical implications and that was a big part of the re

privacy a boost to demand for encrypted e-mail services the provider indeed used by snowden himself lavabit was forced to shut down in august but he spoke to a man now who is defying government pressure and says he's created an online oasis secure from prying eyes. we decided to open a data center and here we're taking an exclusive tour through one of the few data companies standing up to the u.s. government in the name of privacy i think we do residential are very well pete ashdown is the owner of x. mission and independent internet service provider based in salt lake city utah this tower here handles most of our unlike most power players in silicon valley x. mission refuses to give the n.s.a. backdoor access to its networks since one thousand nine hundred ninety eight x. mission has rejected a judge in the u.s. government for some more information stored on private servers like these we don't share our information about our customers if you don't have a warrant the majority of law enforcement requests ashdown says he's received and refused have been subpoenaed is lacking accountability an