garlique.® >>> lavar ball dominated the internet during our interview. still offering no thank you to the president. he happens to be the father of liangelo ball, one of the ucla players caught shoplifting in china and his lack of gratitude sparked president trump's fury after downplaying the president's level of involvement after getting his son and two other players released. why won't he say thank you? here is his explanation. >> it wasn't like he was in the u.s. and said, okay, there's three kids in china. i need to go over there and get them. >> okay. >> that wasn't the thought process. i have to know what somebody is doing before i say thank you. i'm not just going to go around saying thank you. >> they were in a place that didn't need to let them go. they could have been held for a long time. >> they were in a place that didn't let them go. he said he got them out of jail. >> they didn't need to let them go. >> you heard what he tweeted. he tweeted, because he's mad at me, i should have left their asses in jail. first of all, they weren't in jail.

is it really a big surprise that president trump is feuding with lavar ball? is the father of lee angelo, one of the three aclu basketball players arrested for shoplifting in china, he gave an interview suggesting president trump did didn't really do anything to help the athletes get released. that led to some angry tweets to president trump over the weekend. let's show you a couple right now. now that the three basketball players are out of china and safe from years in jail, the father of lee angelo is unaccepting of what i did and that shoplifting is no big deal? i should have left them in jail. that tweet came from the president. it's a shoplifting is a big deal in china. should have left next trip. he told them why they were released white house was asked about the tweets and if he regretted it >> the president was glad and thankful to see the release of the athletes by chinese government and frankly it's fortunate that the president has built a strong enough relationship with president xi of china that he was able to help secure the release of the america

tonight lavar ball is here, and he has a message for the president. mr. ball, thank you for taking the opportunity. >> no problem. >> did you ever think you would be on cnn discussing geopolitics and the president of the united states? >> never in my wildest dreams. >> so as we live this dream. let's discuss how we got here. your son was playing ball with ucla in china. they stole merchandise from a store. the president finds out about it, he gets involved, the boys are released, they get to come back home which was never a certainty until he got involved. he says that your son -- >> how do you know he was involved before i knew that. he didn't know they were over there. what was the reason for him going over there in the first place? >> the president was in china to meet with the president of china to discuss trade matters. >> and that's before -- >> he didn't get involved until he got to china? >> i don't understand your question. >> so he wasn't going over there beforehand? >> he was going over there beforehand? >> it's not like he was in the u.s. and s

this lowest common denominator now all the time and people are sick of it. >> david, in some ways lavar ball and president trump do seem very alike. he sells $500 sneakers and $300 flip flops. ball thinks he could beat michael jordan. which man is out of his league here? >> donald trump is out of his league as president of course. what this feels like is a spat between two reality tv stars, the sort of thing that shouldn't even be spoken about on a network like cnn. then you have to remember one of them is the president of the united states. american citizens in a chinese jail should have been left there because their father wasn't appreciative enough. the real winners here tragically are donald trump and lavar ball. we're talking about this instead of serial sexual assault and problems with the tax bill, which is incredibly unpopular or the fact the head of his oklahoma state party was just indicted for child sex trafficking. lavar is a p.t. barnum style huksster and the president is tweeting his name. this does great things for lavar ball in nba circles, because donald trump is viewed as a

>> lavar ball has said he could take on michael jordan and beat him. is trump just giving ball exactly what he wants more attention? >> absolutely. this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to lavar ball and i would tell the president which is to ignore this guy. lavar ball is -- picture the worst mom or dad on your kid's youth sport sideline, the worst screamer that you've ever met multiplied times ten, maybe multiplied times 100 and that's lavar ball. he's one of these guys that just can drive you crazy. he's gone on sexist rants and got a female referee removed from his youngest son basketball game this summer. he's had other sexist rants. he's really not a good guy and there are a lot of people -- i've been critical of him, a lot of people critical of this behavior but to think that now he's been able to troll the president of the united states and drag the president into a twitter war or war of words with a guy who is, other than being ridiculous parent, basically harmless and this is the president of the united states. this is unbelievable

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the players thanked him, lavar ball did not. but may karrie, the president doesn't just lash out at african-americans, there are plenty of people he has gone after that are white. how do you differentiate the two? >> it's clear. the president establishes the people he lash out. people that are quote unquote jeff lange and jeff sessions or anyone else. then you have the media. the clearest example of this you had eminem at the bet awards. john, i don't know if you were watching like the rest of us. he went down the reasons he disrespected and didn't like the president of the united states. what has happened? the president has not respond. the president has this tendency of not responding to people who simply look like him. this is not a difficult or something that is a controversy what so far. the president of the united states picks these foils and many fall into a few categories. their muslim, immigrant, establishment figures or their african-americans and that's where lavar ball falls in the category. the reason he discuss thi

president trump will ánot be getting a "thank you" from lavar ball. ken father of liangelo... who was one of three u-c-l-a players accused of shoplifting in china. this all started last week... when the president questioned whether he would get any thanks for his role in the players' release. on sunday... president trump tweeted that he "should have left them in jail." now... ball is responding.. and he's minimizing president trump's involvement in the ordeal. <"i would say thank you if he would have put him on his plane and took him home. then i would have said 'thank you mr. trump for taking my boys out of china and bringing them back to the u.s'. there's a lot of room on that plane. i want to say thank you kindly for that.">( james ) ball denied being in a feud with president trump. he also said if there was anyone he would thank... it would be áchina's president. ball's son and his teammates did express gratitude to president trump at a news conference last week. more fallout after oakland raiders running back marshawn lynch refused to stand during

>> trump and lavar ball are kind of different sides of the same coin, okay? y? >> if trump had grown up in lavar sirgz he would have been lavar and if lavar had grown up rich and white in new york city he might be president now. it's like listening to a fight between the two loudest guys in the bar. in one serious note, a navy plane went down in the middle of the night and three people on that plane are still missing and i woke up this morning and saw tweets about lavar ball before i saw a tweet about that, the plane. >> it is a really good point. >> it makes donald trump so happy to be able to have this kind of dumb fight. he loves a pointless culture war. he loves, especially, pitting himself against black athletes which has racial connotations and in the wake of his comments from charlottesville, you would think that the guy -- that the president, perhaps, could handle himself with a little bit more dignity. the nfl anthem, the nfl kneeling, that is his absolute favorite cultural war. he also went back to that again this morning. >> he went after steph curr

it looks like donald trump fell right into lavar ball's brand.e are on national tv talking about lavar and his brand. he needs that opponent. that seems to be the only way he can operate. usually it's hillary clinton or the media. he also has this thing where he likes to press upon the divisions. so when you have those instances like jamil hill, fredricka wilson or lavar ball, there is a common thread. it preys on the darkest part of our country's history. >> the president targeting people of color when he picks his fights? >> no. jeff flake caught it later in the day. i think bakari is right he likes to foil. he is elevating him and his brand and all. i just think it is a little bit more fun. trump has a record now of getting some of our american young people especially out of asia where they are in trouble. the kid from ohio came home and passed away here. at least we got it home. trump takes some pride in that. no one takes lavar ball, who has taken on on michael jordan, no one takes him as seriously as the jeff flake debate. i don't see it as

lavar ball is a character, but he's a civilian.he president to even engage lavar ball i thought was foolish. and to be honest, when we look at the president, we want the president to show leadership. children are supposed to look to the president, not to lavar ball and his son, the president. i think he is showing a poor example. >> martha: what you think about that? initially when i watched this back and forth over the weekend i kind of had the same reaction, why is he going there? wires he going? why is he doing it? the more i looked at it and thought about it, everything is about figuring out a message to young people and he clearly felt that the message that was going out from lavar ball, the father of these basketball players, was the wrong message, and he wanted to make very clear that he felt differently. what do you think? >> i agree. i think it's important to note that lavar ball is a donald trump-like figure, he says what's on his mind. the problem with his message regarding his son is counterproductive to what he has alw

lavar ball, father of ucla's liangelo ball and l.a. lakers rookie lonzo ball dismissing the president's role in getting his son released. the outspoken mr. ball telling espn, who? what was he over there for? don't tell me nothing. everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out." now the president slamming ball as ungrateful. cnn's boris sanchez has more from the white house. >> reporter: dave and christine, president trump never known to back down from a fight. this latest spat with lavar ball over the release of his son from prison in china over alleged shoplifting. this all started while the president was on his 12-day, 5-nation tour of asia. those three ucla players were detained. the president found out about it, we're hearing from white house officials, and personally asked chinese president xi jinping if those students could be released and safely returned to the united states. they were. and in that process, the president allowed on twitter, wondered whether or not those players would thank him. they did, and he tweeted a

so, we get back to lavar ball. why won't he thank the president for helping get his kid out of china? here is what he said. >> it wasn't like he was in the u.s. and said, okay, there's three kids in chiena. i need to go over there and get them. that wasn't the thought process. i have to know what somebody is doing before i say thank you. i'm not just going to go around saying thank you. >> they were in a place that didn't need to let them go and they could have been held for a long time. >> they were in a place that didn't let them go? he got them out of jail, right? >> they didn't need to let them go. >> you heard what he tweeted because he's mad at me. i should have left their asses in jail. >> yep. >> first of all they wasn't in jail. they was in a hotel. >> the president of the united states says he helped and you say if you didn't see it, you didn't hear it, you don't believe it? >> hey, if he said he helped, that's good for his mind. >> what do you mean, good for his mind? >> why do you even have to say it? i

you know, lavar ball's comments were on friday on espn. for some reason it wasn't until sunday afternoon that president trump decided to weigh in. maggie said months ago during a documentary, that president trump's critics would be made to bow down to president trump. that that was the mindset. now maybe that was only on the mindset. wing we've seen that in president trump's own comments whether it's about this case or other cases. it reveals, i think his tweets reveal a lot about his inner psyche and for that i suppose i'm grateful to twitter that we get this inner look all the time. >> and the timing of the tweets, april, what does it say? that the president tweeted about lavar ball, waited six hours and tweeted about him again. >> the president is thin-skinned. he is watching twitter. he -- i mean, they can say he doesn't watch tv, he doesn't watch the news, that's not true. he does. he's watching twitter. and he sees the unfavorable words about him. this president, according to those who knew him before, people in his inner circle, peo

[chanting] >> juan: what about lavar ball as don king?ked him. >> kimberly: don king supported him. >> brian: do you think it's over? >> juan: no, no. >> dana: never over. we have talked about it two days in a row. it's never over. >> greg: what trump is saying, he recognizes that ball is a showman. when he set a poor man's don king, he was basically saying i know what you are doing. a lot of people call me a poor man's lou dobbs. >> kimberly: everybody says that. >> dana: it is written in the bathroom. >> brian: they didn't just take glasses. they took a lot of stuff. they could've ended up in a lot of trouble. >> kimberly: it a serious thing. he did something wonderful. lavar ball. blah, blah, blah. >> dana: he is asked about it on the plane. the president is very restrained and talking about how bad the situation was. at one point, he says it wasn't good, okay. he leaves it at that and everyone could have left of it that. instead we have to go over it over and over. >> juan: i had fun with the ridiculous tweet but i think he has self i

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in a different context, we'd be applauding lavar ball. probably advertising classes some day across the country are going to be studying, probably a chapter on lavar ball and this run he's had. >> i don't know if i'd go that far, steve. you're a coach of ucla. if you were coach currently and all of a sudden you're thrust into this geopolitical situation, would you be saying to somebody at the school, could we get a pull aside with his father and tell him to ixnay with the president, would you have that chat? >> i think for starters, if you have a rapport with a parent that starts with recruiting and you develop the trust and communication with each other, it wouldn't be something to pull them aside. hopefully we have -- >> a conversation. >> -- a conversation, to be able to communicate in a gentlemanly way. >> so, you would maybe have that conversation. have you ever -- as a coach, would you let it go, or would you -- >> well, i think it's a balance. it's a delicate balance. because if you start trying to control things you really don't h

president yet about what we just heard from barbara starr but he is very concerned about the nfl and lavar ball. it began about 30 minutes ago with this tweet. it wasn't the white house. it wasn't the state department. it wasn't father lavar's so-called people on the ground in china that got his son out of a long term prison sentence. incident was me. too bad. lavar is just a poor man's version of don king but without the hair. just think, lavar, you could have spent the next 5 to 10 years during thanksgiving with your son in china but no nba contract to support you. but remember, lavar, shop lifting is not a little thing. it's a really big deal, especially in china. you can do this part tkpwhrfplt thank y . >> thank you. >> ungrateful fool! >> you say that to me all the time. you miss it on that one. >> thank you. i'm going to move on to the next tweet. the president tweeted about the nfl and the national anthem controversy. the nfl is now thinking about a new idea, keeping teams in the locker room during the national anthem next season. that is almost as bad as kneeling. when will the highly

lavar ball speaking out, nfl players taking a knee bothers him.hat about fredricka says bothers him. he attacked lavar ball saying he was a poor man's version of don king. that is absolutely a dog whistle. what about these particular folks, particularly in the ucla players's case makes him think they are grateful for them. >> because they are not in a chinese jail. it's very simple, simone. they should be grateful for the president intervening because today they are with their families for thanksgiving. they could have been sit anything jail for 15 some odd years. >> i'm not in the habit of giving people cookies, candy and pats on the back for things they should be doing. donald trump and the state department did what they should do, often what the state department does in many cases across the world when americans get in trouble. they often do so without tweets from the president and folks saying you have to tell me thank you. so i think the problem here is donald trump has presumably done a lot of things since he's been in office. for all we kno

the president has been demanding a thank you from lavar ball and lavar ball so far refusing to give that thank you. this really underscores the president's continuing anger over perceived spites, if you will, by individuals going all the way back to about 2011 or so. the president obama speaking, making jokes about donald trump at the washington white house correspondents dinner. and i think it also points out that the president now is also engaged in a back and forth on twitter with a man who refuses to kneel and that makes good copy, at least, in the reality show that is the white house these days. meanwhile, it is important to say, also, that the president is not traveling with some of the people who tend to keep him in check. in a variety of different ways. cnn producer liz landers points out that a number of the people including the press secretary, the white house chiefs of staff not here as the president begins the long thanksgiving holiday. john and poppy, back to you. >> joe johns, thank you very much. >>> to alabama now where in the president's view an accused child molester wh

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look, last week he attacked lavar ball's son, liangelo ball, and two others arrested for shoplifting. he attacked jeff flake, cnn, the new york sometimes, marshawn lynch. now we are to the nfl and roger goodell and now lavar ball. he cares about what is him. he cares what affects him and what people say about him. he does not view the presidency as a representative of the country, just as sort of a lone individual, an individual who gets a lot of attention, but an individual who will not allow himself to ever be attacked and not respond. >> so how does that play, a.b., into what's going on with roy moore? the president says this is a special time. it's good that women are coming forward. this is good for women. we need to hear about these types of claims of being assaulted and harassed. but then he says, but roy moore denies it. tkpwh good enough for me. i don't want a democrat in there. how does this work? >> well, there are so many tag it's to that question. >> every question i ask is multi-faceted like a diamond. >> this is true. there are upwards of 16 women who accused president

what did lavar ball say about president trump? >> yeah, brooke, well, this is a really big clash of two massive personalities. lavar ball taking it all of the way back when his sons returned home essentially said in an interview that he didn't think that president trump had done anything for him, and president trump had already made it very clear that he wanted thanks, and he asked for the three basketball players to come out and thank him for what he did to help them. they did that, but lavar ball was very much not on the same page. the president tweeting yesterday the tweet that you just read, but also again this morning tweeting to lavar ball that shoplifting is a very big deal in china as it should be. five to ten years in jail, but not to the father of lavar ball should have gotten my son out during my next trip to china, instead. china told they were released, very ungrateful. so president trump not letting this one go and reviving yet another sports feud on social media yet again. in a second tweet, completely unrelated to

. >> the surreal war of words escalating between lavar ball and president trump after ball's son wasrrested by china for shoplifting. the president tweeted a slew of insults today, among them writing that it was he alone, the president alone, who got china to release ball's son and to other ucla basketball players. president trump went on to call lavar ball a "ungrateful fool and poor man's version of don king" but without the hair. we many is marc lamont hill and bradco hen, lormer and former "apprentice" contestant who supports president trump. gentlemen, nice to have you both on. >> good to be here. >> marc, to you first. the quotes i just read, "ungrateful fool" and "poor man's don king." chris cillizza is calling this a racial dog whistle. do you agree? >> it feels like a racial dog whistle. the entire time there's an undertone of you should be grateful to me. these uppity black people. is isn't just because of lavar ball, it starts with the nfl where he talked about highly paid athletes who should be grateful to be in the nfl. this discourse keeps recurring and directed largely

trump a happy thanksgiving. >> lavar ball wins. this is what he wanted.e couldn't buy this exposure, right? >> i didn't know him before this, but he is a pro vok picture -- >> the point is you didn't know him before this. >> right. >> millions of americans didn't know him before this. now they do. >> he was a provocature in basketball, right? >> sports fans knew it, but the president elevated him to a level he couldn't have otherwise. >>> meanwhile, a struggle on the hours yox after the justice department files suit to block at&t's takeover of time warner, the parent company of cnn. it marks an unusual challenge to the $85 billion deal. the justice department argues the merger violates antitrust law because at&t would use its control of time warner programming to harm competition. >> at&t swiftly pushed back, calling the suit a radical and inexplicable departure from years of antitrust precedent. at&t says it will fight in court. for more, we turn to media correspondent brian stelter. >> good morning, christine and dave. the morning papers are calling thi

he added new fuel to the fight with lavar ball, the father of one of the ucla basketball players jailed in china. ball blasted trump earlier this week for cnn's chris cuomo. >> tell donald trump to have a great thanksgiving. >> reporter: the president still fuming over not receiving more thanks for securing their release. it wasn't the white house, it wasn't the state department, it wasn't father lavar's so-called people on the ground in china that got his son out of a long-term prison sentence, it was me. too bad. lavar is just a poor man's version of don king, but without the hair. don king supported president trump in 2016. the president went on to call ball an ungrateful fool. in a season of thankfulness, it was a blistering response for ball's refusal to say the words thank you to president trump. >> if i was going to thank somebody, i'd probably thank president xi. >> reporter: the president didn't stop there, also reviving his beef with the nfl. the nfl is now thinking about a new idea, keeping teams in the locker room during the national anthem next season. that's almost as bad

he's talking about lavar ball. every basketball fan on earth knows who that is right now. we're at the white house with the latest on this. a busy president looking for people to fight with this morning, joe. >> reporter: that's true. but also taking on sports figures really plays well to the president's base. and in a way, this sounded more like a couple of reality stars going after each other than it really did about policy or politics. but that's how this white house rolls. they also like the fact that the president can seize control of the news cycle with his twitter account. but in this case, because it's lavar ball, this is really a guy who has made a career of self agra aggrandizement. meanwhile, another of the president's twitter targets that would be senator jeff flake of arizona, the outgoing senator, caught in an open mic moment, and teeing off or teeing up the president on twitter. jeff flake really didn't say anything. he hasn't said about the president before, if you think about it. but here, judge for yourself. >> become the party of roy moore and donald tru

. >>> on offense, lavar ball. the father of one of the three ucla basketball players accused of shoplifting in china, refusing to give president trump credit for coming home. saying he would credit the president of china first. >> i don't know. if i was going to thank somebody, i would thank >> how he took the president to task in a bizarre interview. >>> on the move. 51 million americans on the move this week. airlines hitting breaking numbers. will you be one of them? >>> those stories, plus a giant media merger blocked. baby onboard. an off-duty police officer has a gun in one hand, son in the other. >>> and we'll tell you the story about this astonishing site, this tuesday, november 21st, 2017. >> from nbc news, this is "today," with matt lauer and savannah guthrie. live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> and good morning, everybody. welcome to "today." it's a tuesday morning. we're glad to have you with us. >> on this tuesday morning, we find ourselves with more breaking news. >> we have a top story. ano

>>> president trump is up early this morning taking shots on twitter reigniting that feud with lavar ball. he tweeted this, it wasn't the white house. it wasn't the state department. it wasn't father lavar's so-called people on ground in china that got us out long-term prison sentence, it was me, too bad, lavar is a poor man's version of don king without the hair. then again -- never mind. he followed up by saying think lavar you could have spent the next five to ten years during thanksgiving with your son in china but no nba contract to support you but remember, shoplifting is not a little thing it's a big deal especially in china ungrateful fool. lee angelo ball and two of his aclu team mates were left while the president was visiting. the three have since been suspended. >> i want to tell you what. it amazes me every day, it should not -- you're the president. >> now, let's put it this way. >> but lavar ball, why -- what was the incentive for him to say -- who? look. let it go. it's over and done with. his son broke the law in a foreign country. >> absolutely. >> and yes, it's harshly

president tweeted now that the three basketball players are out of china and saved from years in jail, lavar ball, father of lee anxio liangelo ball, is unaccepting of what i did for his son and that shoplifting is no big deal. i should have left them in jail. so the president weighing in and his critics say makes his relative silence on roy moore all the more conspicuous. >> jeff bennett, thank you so much. let's bring in our panel. elanad also professor at george mason university. number two, one, as jeff was outlining, the reaction related to what has been a criticism the president by the father of one of the three players that were released from china. and as jeff was saying, it's noteworthy because he has not commented on what might be a major topic for his party, a major topic for this president when we talk about sexual assault. he has been absent from commenting on that regarding roy moore. why is the president doing this? >> well, let also remember that the president took aim at al franken for his own ever, much less lesser sexual misconduct scan l scandal. this is all in an attempt to c

now that the three basketball players are out of china and saved from years in jail, lavar ball, the father of liangelo, is unaccepting of what i did for his son and that shoplifting is no big deal. i should have left them in jail.

calling lavar ball an ungrateful fool, a poor man's don king without the hair. as you read a tweet like this, do you see dog whistling here? >> absolutely. there is no doubt. he's been going after african-americans in many, many ways. and minorities generally. in fact, he started his campaign for president going after minorities. in that case, mexican nationals here in the united states, as well as mexican -- people of mexican origin that will be have been here forever. he took on a federal judge. it goes on and on. one minority after another. right now he's focussing on african-americans, obviously the football players protesting by not standing for the national anthem. protest is a tradition in america but the president seems to be focussed now on african-americans, previously on others. >> turning to another topic we're lerning more about the allegations against your fellow congressman conyers, do you believe he should resign? not only his ranking member on the judiciary committee but also his seat from congress, based on what you know now? >> i don't know. i

the president is getting into this fight, because he feels personally insulted by lavar ball.hen you've got lavar ball, who's someone who from what i understand, is very savvy when it comes to creating publicity for himself. and he's got a business of his own. and this helps him. >> yeah, exactly! a.b., i think if the guy had the intention of sparking up a feud that would make him on the level of the president of the united states, he pulled it off! and the fact that president trump understands what the guy was up to, he compared him to don king, one of the great promoters of all time in boxing, he knew what the guy was up to, and he played his game. i don't get this? why does he want to have a -- unless there's a race piece to this, where he wants to have tan african-american opponent wherever he can find one. that would be another way of looking at it. your thoughts? >> well, there's a couple of aspects to this. one, president trump is energized by grievance and by fighting. so that's just -- if someone throws him some bait, he's going to come at it. number two, as jonathan

i can't believe i'm going to agree with lavar ball.o his credit, he does not know how much the president intervened. if the president is looking for a great big thank you. a bigger thank you than the three kids said on a podium at u cla where they thanked the president, then what more does the president want because lavar ball does not know exactly what the president's role was. i get that part. now to trump's part, you're the president of the united states. is this really what we're discussing now? this is the smoke and mirrors while he attacks lavar ball and said i should have left your kid in jail, he cuts everything that obama built. it's like watch me jangle my keys, where over here i do this horrible magic trick and everything disappears. >> is this a strategy? is this like nixon's southern strategy? we heard steve bannon back in august, and said the democrats as long as they talk about identity politics i got them. i want them to talk about racism ef every day. is this all about waging the war on political correctness along the

paul, to you, the president is in this back and forth with lavar ball. and you know, who is winning this morning? >> well, these two deserve each other, don't they? can we give them a private table at mar-a-lago for thanksgiving and let them throw turkey legs at each other. i guess in the sense the president is winning. those young men did get out of jail. i do believe the president intervened to help them. that is a good thing. where he hurts himself desperately, our president, is when he says maybe i should have left them in jail. can you imagine an american president saying he should have left american citizens in a communist dictator's jail? that's where president trump, as always, loses whatever little moral high ground he can claim when once in a while he does the right thing, which he did with the kids in china. you can't say that when you're the american president. i should have left some americans in jail. that's monstrous. >> alex, look, the comments of the president to lavar ball, to his son, to the other ucla players, to nfl players, et ceter

and lavar ball is known for stirring things up.e has the big baller brand for the family and the ball in the family facebook reality show. they have done well. but lavar ball has made outlandish claims saying he could have beaten michael jordan one-on-one and his son is better than steph curry although lonzo has one of the lowest shooting percentages for a rookie guard in history. lavar ball said i'm from l.a.,'s seen worse things happen than a guy taking glasses. my son has built up enough character and one bad decision doesn't define him. the critics say the president gave lavar ball exactly what he wanted, which was a great deal more exposure and this thing continues to go on, shep. >> shepard: trace, this has been kind of a political football along the way. >> and really, it's back and forth along the party lines. you have california democratic congressman adam schiff that said this. the president would have left american students in a foreign jail because their families didn't lavish sufficient praise on him? how can someone i

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lavar ball's son is one of three players who were accused of shoplifting and detained in china.wnplayed president trump's involvement in getting his son released, and that led to the twitter feud that ensued. as our boris sanchez reports for us. >> reporter: president trump has never been one to back down from a public feud, especially on twitter. this latest one aiming at lavar ball, the father of one of those three ucla students that were detained in china during the president's 12-day trip through asia. the president found out that these students were detained and white house officials tell us he personally asked chinese president xi jinping if those students could be released so that they could return home. they were and in that process the president wondered aloud on twitter whether or not these three students would thank him for his role in their release. they did. and the president actually tweeted about them subsequently, writing that they should be weary of the many pitfalls in life. we thought it was over until lavar ball, father of liangelo, gave this comment to espn

. >> lavar ball and he was tweeting about that. >> wasn't the white house. the state department. it wasn't father lavar's so-called people on the ground in china that got his son out of a long-term prison sentence, it was me in all caps. too bad, exclamation point. lavar a poor man's, but no nba contract to support you. remember, lavar, shoplifting is not a little thing, a big deal especially in china. ungrateful fool. >> then the president started tweeting about the nfl and the civil rights protests during the national anthem. he writes, the nfl is now thinking about a new idea keeping teams in the locker room during the national anthem next season. that is almost as bad as kneeling. when will the highly paid commissioner finally get tough and smart? this issue is killing your league. >> so, those tweets coming as we said, just hours after president trump broke his week-long silence on roy moore. he's all but now endorsed the alabama senate candidate, despite the sexual abuse allegations against moore. so, let's bring in joe johns live from palm beach, florida, where the presiden

he saved lavar ball' son from spending 10 years of his youth in jail for shoplifting inchon a and for whatever reason, lavar ball cannot get the strength to think him and it's absurd. >> liz: we have breaking news i'd like you to respond to the first house democrats has come out against john conyers, new york congresswoman kathleen rice saying she does believe that congressman conyers should resign. there is an ethics probe into him. here is the tweet and what she said. "i have reviewed the allegations against him and there is credible as they are repulsive what's your response? >> i commend her for doing that. even if these allegations aren't necessarily true which i agree with congresswoman rice that they are he spent $27,000 of taxpayer money paying off a woman who said she was fired because she didn't respond to his sexual advances so allegations aside, spending taxpayer money with a lack of transparency and complete dishonesty is enough to ask someone to resign. i really hope more democrats will follow suit. >> liz: good to see you come back soon we love having you on. >> you too

who knows about lavar ball, he is marine one of helicopter parents in america. the greatest troll of all time. they happened to run into the greatest troll in american life. it was like a predestined battle. clash of the twitter titans. all this keyboard coward. secondly and april hit it on the head. the elephant in the room is race. this is about the time that the president has essentially used black athlete as a proxy. he has done it in the nfl and has a battle going with the warriors and members of the nba. it's amazing how the sports is now part of the culture wars and how donald trump either brilliantly, unconsciously or consciously inserted himself in there. >> think of the voices who have been critical of donald trump. from the very next day after the election and since then, steve kerr has not to this point been the target via twitter. >> one thing you are right about. i want to go back to engaging with donald trump. i think mike hit it right on the head. the guy is a marketer and a salesman and trying to sell his product. guess what we are doing. he kne

this morning the president and lavar ball are at it again - over who helped get three ucla players releaseda. the president got liangelo ball and his teammates out of a long prison sentence and called lavar ball an "ungrateful fool." this after lavar ball told cnn he won't thank the presideent. fans remembering the life of 70s pop icon david cassidy this morning. the musician and actor catapulted to fame on the tv series "the partridge family".. becoming a teen idol. cassidy produced numerous albums with the sitcom that topped the pop charts... and continued to have a solo career later in life. cassidy died tuesday after being hospitalized for organ failure. he was 67. the girl scouts of america telling parents not to make your daughter hug anyone, not even relatives. the organization says forced contact can influence how girls set boundaries in the future. the idea is to let them decide how they want to show affection. new this morning - get ready to see the nba star made a bet with fellow teammate javale mcgee over last night's college game between their alma maters. well curry's davison

we have him talking about lavar ball. this is one of the first tweets the president put out this morning, saying it wasn't the white house, it wasn't the state department, it wasn't father lavar's so-called people on the grou ground, saying, it's me. it's the president of the united states who secured their release by talking to chinese president xi jinping. and the president returning to this familiar controversy of what the nfl national anthem's protests. he says, the nfl is thinking about a new idea, keeping teams in the locker room during national anthem next season. that's almost as bad as kneeling. and then he asked, when will the highly paid commissioner finally get tough and smart? the issue is kill ying your league. i think we need to be clear here, brook, that these are obviously distractions. that's not to say that the president doesn't want alabama republican voters to know what he said. he wants them to know what he said, to give them another reason to potentially believe roy moore's denials and disbelieve th

the president took game of lavar ball, the father of the uk, uc l player. he wrote now that the players are out of klein and safe from jail, lavar ball is unaccepting what i did for his son and shoplifting is no big deal. i should have left them in jail. that comment of the president saying u.s. citizens should be left in foreign jail raised some eye brows. >> does he believe he really should have left the players in jail? >> no i think if that's the case he wouldn't have taken the action that he did and acted in order to help really get these individuals released and brought back to the country. matthew. >> so falling on that, if that's not how helpful then why did he say that he should have left them in jail? >> look the -- what. >> what are we supposed to take from that. >> it was a rhetorical response by the father. >> does that make any sense. michael joins us now. you look at some of these tweets and fights he gets in verbally as trying to place himself in juks position of the other. put the other in his place, what document by that? >> he's always lo

if you follow sports, you've been aware of lavar ball for a couple years now.nterviewed him. it was 23 minutes talking to him about whether or not he would apologize to donald trump. >> yeah. >> seth: it was very hard for us to cut it down to just some highlights. but just for our audience, lets take a look. >> oh, please. can't get enough -- >> i say thank you when i see something. i don't thank you because people just talking saying, "i did this, i did that." that's just me. >> so, if the president like invited to you to the white house, would you say thank you then? [ laughter ] >> heck yeah, if he invited me to the white house -- did you thank the doctor for bringing you into this world? [ laughter ] you better go back and find him cause you lucky. do you need somebody like me to loosen you up a little bit? because you wound up tight. >> but here's what we learned -- >> oh that's where the mo came from? >> yeah. >> chrismo? cuomo? >> cuomo not chrismo. >> hey man. >> cuomo. lavar get your head straight. >> cuomo, like chromo like google? like the google chr

lavar ball is a firebrand in and of himself and an apple cart upsetter is how i term him. he's taken on the nba and the ncaa. but this isn't without precedent because in 2011 the georgetown basketball team ended up playing a series of goodwill games in china and there was a brawl at the end of one of them. the vice president at the time, joe biden, had to -- had actually attended the game before and subsequent to the brawl, the chinese officials worked through normal diplomatic channels to ensure the safety of those players for the rest of their trip and safe return home and nobody asked for a thank you. >> let's turn to roy moore, bob, i want to play a mash-up of what president trump said before he left for mara lago. >> we don't need a liberal person in there, a democrat, jones. i looked at his terrible. it's terrible. >> mr. president, is an accused child molester better than a democrat? is an accused -- >> look, he denies it. >> i'll be letting you know next week, but i can tell you, you don't need somebody who's soft on crime like jones. and i do have to say, 40 years