lavar washington a convert to islam, met kevin james in late 2004 after washington was transferred to new folsom prison do sacramento. in folsom prison james recruited washington into jis. washington's war and oath of obedience to james. he was paroled in late 2004 and now had the ability to carry out a violent operation on behalf of jis outside prison walls. james tasks washington with a document known as blueprint 2005. he required washington to recruit five special operations members, preferably felony three and train them in covert operations. acquired two pistols the silencers and appoint a member to find contacts to learn to make bombs from a distance. armed with instructions from james washington got quickly to her. into a mosque in inglewood california where he met gregory patterson that converts a convert to islam and hamas -- washington recruited both patterson and some on into jis and they swore an oath of loyalty, took washington to jis. their personal cell now has three members and they began to select targets for their attacks. ultimately deciding on military recruitment

when you contrast that with individuals like lavar washington they're not engaged in criminal activity is anything but a means to carry out violent jihad. in that lies the difference and the danger. >> isn't the name of a terrorist attack to produce the greatest amount of terror in a community? that is to try to do the greatest amount of destruction, both physical and psychological, as opposed to gaining economic benefit? >> absolutely correct. one of the accepted tenets of terrorism is the need to create and exploit fear in the population and that is what a jihadists, what a terrorist seeks to do by targeting innocent people. >> mr. dunleavy, you were asked some questions about why we properly that certain chaplains. isn't that the crux of a problem? we have a religion which is an accepted noble religion, one of the great religions of the world, that is being subjected to a radicalization by a certain percentage of its advocates and there is no standard to make the judgment with respect to someone who is teaching or preaching in a prison that may be of a radical version versus an non