hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered on peter lavelle. the sabotage of the north stream pipelines was back in the headlines in a big way. american and german media hint that some so called pro ukraine group might have been behind the attack. little evidence was provided is the west starting to have 2nd thoughts about the cube regime.

i'm peter lavelle. china has performed a master stroke of diplomacy. it is broker in agreement that we'll see a ran and saudi arabia again reestablish diplomatic relations. this could be a step not only to reorder the middle east, but also usher in an air of stability in the region. today, washington is the odd man out with

i'm peter lavelle. kevin made it abundantly clear it cannot wage a counter offensive without more weapons and ammunition from the west, the west, particularly washington. they show no interest in negotiating and to the conflict. in the meantime, ukraine become smaller and smaller. the cross the conflict in ukraine. i'm joined by my guess, nick brown and washington. he's the chair of the people's party of the united states in raleigh. we have ray mcgovern, he is a former cia analyst, and paul's church. we cross to lawrence wilkerson, he's a former chief of staff to colin powell or a gentleman cross our girls. and in fact, that means you can jump in in time you want. and i always appreciate it, or if we can go to you 1st in a way, this whole conflict is all been about as far as i can tell, narrative control. so we have narratives like lens gay being pressured to have a counter offensive to grab back as much land as possible to inter negotiation. he says he doesn't have the, the ammo and other military har

i'm peter lavelle . china, who's performed a master stroke of diplomacy, it is brokered in agreement that will see iran and saudi arabia, again re establish diplomatic relations. this could be a step not only to reorder the middle east, but also usher in an air of stability in the region. today, washington is the odd man out the, the cross fucking peacemaking. i'm joined by my guess mom in mirandi and crown. he's a professor at the university of trent in beijing. we have and mark, he is a senior research fellow at the center for china and globalization and in brussels . we cross the pier, manual tillman. he is a lecture at real university or a gentleman, cross talk roles. the fact that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate, let's go to andy 1st in beijing, it's an amazing story, a master stroke of diplomacy. like i said in my introduction, we could see the reordering of the middle east and bringing stability there, which the western powers are about only instability for the last 50 years. so it's an amazing accomplishment. but how competent are you that is this

i'm peter lavelle . is it time to talk? it would seem so the west rhetoric is at odds with hard realities on the ground in ukraine. the chinese have presented a proposal and it is believed the u. k. france and germany are cobbling together a plan for zalinski. but are they willing to talk to russia? i cross sucking piece proposals. i'm joined by my guess i nar, tank and in beijing, he's a senior fellow at the i hate institute as well as chairman of asia narratives in paris. we have jots up here. he is professor emeritus at the school for advanced studies at social sciences. and in new mexico we have can hellman, he is a professor of east asian and global history at new mexico state university. are a gentleman cross sack rosen, the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. i want to talk about the european proposal here, and i want to talk about the chinese one. i'm for the european when jack, i'm going to go to you 1st in paris. so we have the u. k. france and germany talking to ukraine abo

i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing peacemaking. ah okay, let's go back to brussels up here in menu. well, i, i keep stressing, peacemaking here, and with reproach mt of the saudis, and the iranians. we have the part of the possibility of finally bringing peace to yemen. and i think that's an important part of what, what the derivative outcome of this piece process could be. and that would be something that would be absolutely needed, obviously, for the people of yemen. but could diffuse are other conflicts in the region which have been stoked again. i'll say by western powers for decades. so this is a, an opening, an opportunity to end to conflict that is drawn on way too long. go ahead in brussels. yes, that's right. this is an opening but are really good us. you? oh, good army implemented because as you said, they are many open answer to his or to his dieter or i think there is, wasn't of a fact. oh, we didn't mention is that to the united states. wanted to put pressure on saudi arabia too, or on the ice crises or, or to, to a bi

i'm peter lavelle in the west. it's called a marriage of convenience, but for russia and china, their relationship is strategic. and an alternative to the west, so called rules based order with the west refuses to recognize the russians and the chinese practiced. and it's called multi polarity. i cross fucking multiple charity, i'm joined by my guess. andy mach in beijing. he's a senior research fellow at the center for china and globalization also in beijing . we have john gong. he is a professor at the university of international business and economics. and in new york we crossed the danny hi phone. he is the host of left lens. our gentleman cross stock rolls and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate that andy, let me go to you in beijing. do you like the term marriage of convenience? because it sounds very arrogant to me because it means that the west is the proper suitor for other countries. it's. there's a built in bias. if you think about it, go ahead handy. no, there absol

i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing war of words. ah, okay, let's go back to angela in hong kong. you know, as a western media and the western leads of scurry around to try to come together, cobbled together some kind of negotiations stance to end this conflict. i would just turn everyone's attention to publicly known documents that were sent out by moscow to washington and to brussels on december 17th, 2001. and this was what rush it was. you know, there ultimatum would it be a negotiating, so you call whatever you want, okay. they, they telegraphed to the world what they wanted. and if they didn't get that there was going to be a conflict and you know, whatever you want the conflict happen. so let's go back to those 2 humans, you know, ukraine being neutral. no, and no nato infra structure there. and suddenly, the, the issue with don bass and crimea. that's where, you know, that's a starting point right now. it's, everybody knows it. but in the, in the west, they won't recognize, you know, why? because they don't believe russia has

i'm peter lavelle isn't time to talk. it would seem so. the west rhetoric is at odds with hard realities on the ground in ukraine. the chinese have presented a proposal and it is believed the u. k. france and germany are cobbling together a plan for zalinski. but are they willing to talk to russia in the cross talking piece proposals, i'm joined by my guess. i know it's hanging in beijing. he's a senior fellow at the institute as well as the chairman of asia narratives in parents. we have a shots up here. he is professor ameritas at the school for advanced studies at social sciences and in new mexico. we have come home and he is a professor of east asian and global history at new mexico state university. our gentleman cross type roles and effects. that means you can jump in anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. i want to talk about the european proposal here, and i want to talk about the chinese one. i'm for the repeat when jock, i'm going to go to you 1st in paris. so we have the u. k, france and germany talking to you crane about

i'm peter lavelle to remind you were discussing ukraine. ah, okay, let's go back to sarah and jersey city. the title of this program is ditching with a question mark care. and, you know, over the last news cycle, people i trust in the media consortium news dot com, people like that. you know, there's a lot of speculation here is the, is a, by the ministration. looking for an off ramp for it's totally failed policy and dealing with, with ukraine because you've already mentioned, you know, it's, it's getting a little bit easier to throw zalinski under the bus. ok. because there's, from what we understand and maybe this is all manufactured, but there is a growing frustration within the administration that this hasn't worked out very well. and we have to turn our attention to china. that's what i keep hearing from a variety of sources here. but i mean it's putting in the official narrative is, are only heard from german media and the washington new york times is that, you know, they don't want divisions to grow between germany and ukraine. well

i'm peter lavelle slowly but surely, legacy media support of the west warren russia is changing. ukraine is not winning in hardly likely to win in the end. propaganda is at times powerful but hard. cold facts eventually trump fables written by the elite mediocre scribes cross sucking ukraine and propaganda. i'm joined by my guess, ryan christian in franklin. he is founder, an editor of the last american, but back upon an host of the daily wrap up in paris. we have rachel marston, she is the syndicated columnist, an rti contributor. and here in moscow we have pepe escobar. he is an independent geopolitical analyst, an author specializing in eurasia, or a cross hoc rules and the fact that means he can jump in any time you want. and i would appreciate, i want to go to rachel 1st in paris. i want to get everybody's take on the, the, the downing of a drone over the black sea and the reaction, both governments, russian and american to that fact because it's very interesting that they've gotten to a certain threshold. and then both of kind of moved back. rachel, what do you think? i think we're

i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the west war on russia. i okay, go back to joe in sydney. um joe biden. um for whatever, if you'd agree or disagree with him like or dislike him, he's done something unprecedented. and in post world war 2 history, he's allowing or targeting pivoting to a position where there is a great power conflict. every single president. for since f d r harry truman don't go to toe with the soviet union, not don't go toe to toe with russia. joe biden is doing that. and the reason why they nodded states never did it in the soviet union, never did it because it becomes existential. you could actually lose and probably both wig lose. this is unique and this is what makes it so very dangerous. if you look at through history, great powers, avoid wars with other great powers. go ahead, joe. obviously, and yes, it says shocking. how by now has come through with this policy that we all fear. hillary clinton would have done a touchy one in 2016 and here we have she wanted the no fly zone of assyrian ahead of the joint chiefs of s

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i'm peter lavelle is a time to talk. it would seem so the west rhetoric is at odds with hard realities on the ground in ukraine. the chinese have presented a proposal and it is believed the u. k. france and germany are cobbling together a plan for zalinski. but are they willing to talk to russia ah cross talking piece proposals, i'm joined by my guest mangan in beijing. he's a senior fellow at the t. i hate institute as well as chairman of asia narratives in paris. we have shouts up here. he is professor emeritus at the school for advanced studies at social sciences and in new mexico. we have been home and he is a professor of east asian and global history at new mexico state university. our a gentleman crossed sack rose and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate. i want to talk about the european proposal here and i want to talk about the chinese one. i'm for the european one jack. i'm going to go to you 1st in paris. so we have the u. k. france and germany talking to ukraine . about

i'm peter lavelle. it's getting harder and harder for the west to align their words.

i'm peter lavelle. it's getting harder and harder for the west to align their words with reality. it's klein, state ukraine is in big trouble, and things are only expected to get worse. the west is struggling to put an end to a conflict that never should have been fought in the 1st place with.

i'm peter lavelle slowly, but surely, legacy media support of the west warren russia is changing. ukraine is not winning, in hardly likely to win in the end. propaganda is at times powerful but hard. cold facts eventually trump fables written by the elite mediocre scribes. the cross talking ukraine and propaganda and joined by my guest, ryan christian and franklin. he is founder and editor of the last american vagabond and a host of the daily wrap up in parents. we have rachel marson, she is the syndicated. com, that's an rti contributor, and here in moscow we have escobar, he is an independent geopolitical analyst and author specializing in eurasia or in cross talk roles and effect. that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i would appreciate it. i want to go to rachel 1st in paris. i want to get everybody's take on the, the downing of a drone over the black sea and the reaction, both governments, russian and american to.

i'm peter lavelle . is it time to talk? it would seem so the west rhetoric is at odds with hard realities on the ground in ukraine. the chinese have presented a proposal and it is believed the u. k. france and germany are cobbling together applying for zalinski. but are they willing to talk to russia? ah.

we're all things are consider 9 peter lavelle. the sabotage of the north stream pipelines was back in the headlines in a big way. american and german media hint that some so called pro ukraine group might have been behind the attack. little evidence was provided is the west starting to have 2nd thoughts about the kid regime. crafts, shocking ukraine. i'm joined by my guess, wilmer leon in washington. he is a political scientist author and radio talk show host in new york. we have jim cavanaugh, he is a political analyst, and in jersey city we have sarah flounders. she is co director of the international action center. her recent book is sanctions a wrecking ball in a global.

i'm peter lavelle in the west. it's called a marriage of convenience, but for russia and china, their relationship is strategic and an alternative to the west so called the rules based order with the west refuses to recognize the russians and the chinese practiced. and it's called multi polarity with.

1st one you know with, with a welcome back to cross stock were all things are considered, i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing peace proposals with okay, let's go back to ken ken once again with the european proposal. we haven't seen it on paper. okay. this is, it's our leaks from media if, whether the french, the germans and the british are talking about it again, it doesn't solve any problems. it's actually just saying, hey, let's just take a break. so we can rebuild up ukraine with a lot more nato weapons. and then we'll just continue the conflict. i mean that's what, that's one interpretation of this. i don't know why they think that, that what that would work your thoughts go ahead. well that seems, i couldn't agree more. i think that, that these, you know, and as you say, there's nothing on paper. no government has issued an official kind of statement or anything. these are rumors, these are sort of, you know, trial balloons that are getting floated, although probably balloons aren't the best thing to talk about right now. but, you know, i think that, you know, the, the pr

i'm peter lavelle. china has performed a master stroke of diplomacy. it is brokered in agreement that we'll see a ran and saudi arabia again re establish diplomatic relations. this could be a step not only to reorder the middle east, but also usher in an air of stability in the region. today, washington is the odd man out.

i'm peter lavelle, western capitals, and they're pliant. corporate media continue to maintain the west is not at war with russia. however, the fact is, nato is a co belligerent, supplying financial support, arms and diplomatic cover forgive when the west claims, otherwise, it means it's losing. ah, crossing the west war on russia, i'm joined by my guest, jo, lori, and sydney. he's the editor in chief of consortium news dot com, in tulsa. we have jeremy whose motto he is managing, editor of covert action magazine. and in los angeles, we have pi e, and he is a strategic planning consultant, a private equity advisor and an independent economic analyst. our gentleman crossed sack rolls and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate, let me go to jo 1st in sidney here, over the last week or so 10 days or so we've had piece proposals coming out. there's a leaks about a possibility of the u. k. france and germany having a proposal from what i've read, it's very ukraine centric, not security side drink. and the chinese came out with a 12 point proposal which has

ground ah ah, the news news hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are consider 9 peter lavelle. the sabotage of the north stream pipelines is back in the headlines in a big way. american in german media, a hint that some so called pro ukraine group might have been behind the attack. little evidence was provided is the west starting to have 2nd thoughts about the cube regime. in the cross talking ukraine, i'm joined by my guess, wilmer leon in washington. he is a political scientist author and radio talk show host in new york. we have jim carbonella, he is a political analyst, and in jersey city we have sarah flounders. she is co director of the international action center. her recent book is sanctions a wrecking ball and the global economy, or cross type roles and a fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate, sarah, let me go to you 1st in jersey city a month after seymour hersh is blockbuster report. and i think all of us would agree, he's probably the greatest living journalist as of our time, certainly of his generation. one month later on the sam

i'm peter lavelle in the west. it's called.

i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing multi polarity with okay, let's go back to and in beijing you know, and i'm a child of the cold war i make. i don't really hide my age. okay. i was brought up during the cold dry. remember the rhetoric, i remember some of the, the crises as well. and it would seem to me that, you know, when i was being brought up, you know, it was the communist bloc, the ideology and merciless this and the grayness and all it was really evil. it was really pitched that way, but you know, now with the end of the cold towards the west, it's become intensely ideological and intensely bias. i mean, again, i work in the news business. i'm a media person and i watch a lot of media and just the, the how vapid western media is when it comes to countries like china and in the china is the least ideological on the world stage of, of the great powers. go ahead, andy. well, i think you're absolutely right and you know, i think one of the big differences is the u. s. during the cold war and today really demonizes and seeks to divide. where's the chinese approach is based

i'm peter lavelle . the chinese president's visit to russia is historic for a number of reasons. first to accent, the growing russia, china strategic partnership, and 2nd, to demonstrate what both countries publicly advocate the transition to a multi polar world beyond american hegemony. the cross sucking russia china relations. i'm joined by my guess, matthew errant in tokyo. he's a senior fellow at the american university in moscow and director of the rising foundation of canada in hong kong. we have andrey loan. he is an international and independent china strategist. and in houston we cross to robert who's alco. he is a professor of history at the university of houston, as well as co host of the green and red podcast. i, gentleman crossed out girls and a fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate andrew, let me go to you 1st thing in hong kong, you know, there's a very interesting juxtaposition, if you turn on american television, they're all wondering, of donald trump is going to be arrested later this week for hush money and things like that. or

i'm peter lavelle. is it time to talk? it would seem so the west rhetoric is at odds with hard realities on the ground in ukraine. the chinese have presented a proposal and it is believe the u. k. france and germany are cobbling together a plan for zalinski. but are they willing to talk to russia in the cross talking piece proposals, i'm joined by my guess. i know 10 in beijing, he's a senior fellow at a to have institute as well as the chairman of asia narratives in parents. we have a shots up here. he is professor ameritas at the school for advanced studies at social sciences and in new mexico. we have come home and he is a professor of asian and global history at new mexico state university. are a gentleman, cross type roles and a fact that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. i want to talk about the european proposal here, and i want to talk about the chinese one. i'm for the repeat one shock. i'm going to go to you 1st in paris. so we have the u. k. france and germany talking to you cra

i'm peter lavelle slowly but surely, legacy media support of the west warren russia is changing. ukraine is not winning and hardly likely to win in the end. propaganda is at times powerful, but hard. cold facts eventually trump fables written by the elite mediocre scribes cross sucking ukraine and propaganda. i'm joined by my guest, ryan christian and franklin.

i'm peter lavelle. the international criminal court is accused russia of committee, more crimes and ukraine. of course, the by did ministration, could not be more pleased. the i c, c, u. c. that's a long history of doing washington's bidding. the same court washington refuses to be part of, ah.

i'm peter lavelle, speculation swirl about an eminent ukrainian spring counter offensive. it is reported, washington is pushing this lensky regime to start regaining lost territory to strengthen its position during future negotiations. it would seem, the russians have their own plants. ah, discussed these issues a more, i'm joined by my guess. good worked on my son in berlin. he is founder of seriana analysis, and here in moscow we have maxine susco. he's the director of the center for advanced american studies at moscow state institute of international relations. a gentleman crossed up rules and effect, that means he can jump any time you want, and i would appreciate it. let's go to berlin 1st. couple. ok. it's really interesting to the entire course of this conflict here. it's really been just a, a babble of narrative because all the last couple of weeks, you know, you have the secretary of state blank and we saying in front of congress, well, we know the care of regime wants to go. we take a crimea, but that would be a red line, a bridge too far, no pun intended. but th