janet mock tweeted a photo of herself laverne cox and laverne cox reacting to her initial interview withers morgan. you both have your eyebrows raised. >> my initial reaction to the interview, and that was the night she was having her book party, which is an incredible book, my reaction was not to the interview but initially to the tweets sent out surrounding the interview. it seemed as if what was happening in the tweets was a suggestion she's to be a man and the sorts of things. janet would never tell her story that way. she is never described her experience that way. the important piece for the media to remember when telling the stories is we should let trans people take the lead in terms of how we describe ourselves. janet has written extensively about critiquing. critiques the marie claire article that piers morgan refers to. you wrote saying, that article. >> and she did not. it was an interview. the editor of the magazine a few days later after the controversy with piers morgan, tweeted that janet and the writer of the article had issue with the title "i was born a boy." the attac

you can see laverne cox and others appearing now in a more mainstream way and i guess helping the americane and other countries come to terms with this as being perfectly normal thing. for you it's been a real struggle that you talk about very honestly in the book. to others watching here who might be like a young charles and still feel they can't go through with this, feel desperate they want to be a woman, what's the best advice you would give them? >> i think the hardest battle that any of us can fight as e.e. cummings says is a battle of being ourself in a world that tells us that we are wrong, that we should be silent and we shouldn't be ourselves. and i think that there's nothing i can tell a young person besides tap into yourself, know your truth, and surround yourself with people who affirm you and love you for exactly who you are. sometimes the people you need to shut out are often the ones that love you. because oftentimes their expectations of you can be a lot of pressure and burden. >> seeing issues like gay marriage in particular, moving very fast in america, faster than many

. >> also making this list the transgender activist laverne cox. >> "orange is the new black" is a popularflix. she plays sophia a transgender kind of prisoner who was in for credit card fraud. she's a breakout star. but not only on the screen, outside of hollywood and the show "orange is the new black", she's become a voice, an activist for the transgender community, particularly the transgender community of color, talking about the high depression rates, the high unemployment rates and really giving a voice and a platform to a community that doesn't get a lot of attention. >> and she's been here in the studio. she's just beautiful. it's extraordinary. it's a great list. we're going to check it out. thank you so much. >>> and coming out tomorrow everyone. for more information, just go to the grio.com. >>> did chris christie's camp do more harm than good? this is a question for the big three next. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals antio

we're looking at, you know, folks like laverne cox, who we all know was -- is one of the stars from " the new black."" she was born a male. she is now one of the leading faces of the transgender community, particularly in the african-american community. so that's another person what we're looking at. michael b. jordan is another person we're looking at. obviously he got his big break through royal station. a close friend of ours here, angela wry, she is somebody we think is a huge breakout star in the political world. >> w00t w00t! >> you guys like her. >> oh, yeah. >> angela is the fifth cyclist. you know we love her. we're all about her. i'm glad you brought up laverne. really powerful figure in the trans community and activist, not just an actress but an activist. i have a clip of her on the katie couric show. let's run that. >> the preoccupation with transition and surgery objectifies trans people and we don't get to deal with the real lived experiences, the reality is so often we're targets of violence. we experience discrimination diggs proportion to the rest of the community. o