>> it depends on the law school.ion that the third year of law school is valueless is not the case. all three of us and president obama attended law schools for three years and i suspect we have the goodness a nesness and badness of that experience. let the markets decide. students will vote with their feet. >> i think a lot of people who have talked about this two year program, you can actually be working somewhere learning about how the law looked in a real world. i might be getting paid yourself. so it is a great way to improve the practical training. it is a win win. what would it do if you watched your tuition be cut by a third? >> we would have to make adjustments. if we can't justify the third year, warrant the students to pay tuition because of the practical skills training that we offer. then we shouldn't collect their tuition. we should think about whether we end up with real value. if we want to let the market decide. let's let the hiring market decide. they are getting their job after their second year of

we are your law school. we will be taking special efforts to be a more visible and present member of the university community and i welcome you to include us in your usf experience. a special welcome to all of you who come from outside arkansas or are visiting this evening. we take seriously our mission to be the university of san francisco. today we look back half a century ago. idsa the vast majority of the people in this room assembled here today were not present then. increasingly, when i asked students about whether their parents were involved in the civil rights struggle of the 1960s, becoming their grandparents were. in order to make real are increasingly multicultural nations promise as a beacon of hope for freedom, for freedom loving people the world over, and the progress we have made it is important to go back to those days five decades ago in front of majestic lincoln memorial in washington dc. the march on washington was an assemblage of people in power converging on washington dc, our nations c

and that was my first job out of law school. no pay, and i put my desk in with the secretary. >> rose: how long before they started paying you and your own office. >> it was a while, it took a number of months. >> rose: would you rather have been a supreme court justice rather than a senator or -- >> oh, yes, clearly. i mean, that was an amazing experience to be on the supreme court. >> rose: i know. >> to have those very challenging issues that you are part of deciding and to be able to help craft opinions, that was a great, great privilege, it really was. >> >> rose: i love what you said, the great thing about being a supreme court justice is you get to do homework every day. >> i fold my son that about being a judge, i said my job because it describes the job of being a judge on an appeals court, including the supreme court, you read and you write, that is the job, i have my word processor behind me and i have briefs and endless reading in front of me and i did say that. i said if you do if your homework really good, you can

i then decided to go to law school. and i went to a very good law school that was very expensive. most of my debt when i graduated was from law school. i had about $60,000 worth of debt. but the truth was, i was able to, if i wanted to at least, earn so much money coming out of law school that i really didn't need a subsidy. i could pay it back. it took me a little longer to pay back than some of my friends because i went into public service. i didn't try to maximize my income. but if i had been a partner at a law firm pulling down half a million dollars a year, there's no reason why i should necessarily have gotten a subsidy for that. the one area where i think we can make a big difference goes back to the very first question that was asked of me when it came to schools of nursing. across the board in graduate school, what we want to do is to provide incentives for folks who need specialized education but are willing to give back something to the community, to the country, doctors who are willing to serve in underserved communities, nursing willing to serve in underserved communi

that is pretty good, considering that this law school, which is a pretty good law school, a top tier,nd others are expensive, this 1,229,5 years, room, tuition. the general government will lend you the entire mountain on average you end up with about $150,000 of average debt a graduation. here is up where -- here is where the loan repayment comes in. if you commit after graduation to ten years in a public-service job as an attorney, if you are less than $75,000 per year, the federal government will forgive your loan balance after ten years for an average price of $160,000. the student has to pay 10 percent of their take-home pay as parttof that deal. on average 45,000, but the schools catch which is what the school advertises here at georgetown and other schools, the school will reimburse that paent of $45,000, so you get the law school for free. here therick. georgetown and other schools are simply increasing their tuition to cover that portion. >> a school's job is to maximize revenue and get as manyeople enroll for the highest price possible. and still maintain their prestige. so i

go to law school and take out enormous debts and 2350i7d out there are very few high paying jobs foryers and people were getting law degrees from four tier schools and not able to find work at all. >> tell me about it. >> yeah. finally that's broken through. law school has finally started declining and law schools have figured out the gravy train is over and they're not going to get people to buy this worthless product anymore. that took a long time. i don't know how quickly more information about graduate schools will lead them to have better decisions. it's important to tie the score cards to federal decisions about financial aid so the federal government can put more force behind this. that will require congressional cooperation. >> you talk about open questions, josh. as krystal pointed out, the sanity of the gop is an open question. they've gone from talking about a government shutdown to talking about breaching the debt ceiling which could lead to a global financial crisis, and i learned that talking about the breaching of the debt ceiling could lead to a global crisis watching

as far as the organizations i want to thank the law clinics from law schools and a better balance and the work and families coalition also here in san francisco i want to thank the advisory council and the united food and commercial workers and the gender appreciative issues. as well as supervisors yee and supervisor breed who has offered to support this issue. i want to take a moment and thank my aid keating republican who worked around the clock. and with that colleagues i'd like to ask if we could send this motion back to committee and in case anything unexpected happens but as i said today, i want to introduce this what date of january 1st >> colleagues the president has made a motion to send this back to the rules committee. i have a second from supervisor avalos >> i want to thank supervisor avalos i'll be adding this afternoon. >> item 51 is a motion appointing naomi to the entertainment empathies. >> colleagues supervisor wiener. i just want to say how great it is we're able to reappoint her to the entertainment commission. we appointed her last year she brings a strong public

the president and founder and one of the contributors to gideon's army, he's from john marshall law school where he teaches law and criminal procedure. he was in the post katrina and new orleans center. he trained people in the film. he received an advocacy fellowship and named a public interest fellow by harvard law school. next we have maurice call well. he was convicted in the housing project here in san francisco. there was no physical evidence linking him to the crime yet he was still convicted based on the false testimony of a single neighbor. he was sentence to life behind bars. in prison mr. colwell contacted the center for help and located two witnesses who saw the murder and said mr. colwell was not involved in anyway. they located the real killer who confessed and he committed the murder. that man is serving a life sentence for a subsequent murder . on march 28, 2011 after more than 20 years in prison, maurice colwell is free. thank you for being here. [ applause ] linda star is the legal and cofounding in the santa clara law, law center clerk received her ph.d.. she wrote and a

what is law school, two years? >> three. >> if you can do law school in three years you can do college in two. law school is much harder. i wouldn't know that. but i met a few lawyers and they seem smart. does this guy have a point and is he stupid? >> i want to know where they guy lives and i want to relocate him outside our country. why do you live here? you take for granted everything we have here. go live somewhere else. enjoy not being free somewhere else. >> i mean, granted they are defending his right to be -- [bleep]. >> fourth obscenity of the night. >> you know, bill's apartment is a sovereign nation. he can live with you. >> see, thank you, buddy. >> it is a third world country. >> andy, can't you support the troops and not be in favor of war? my belief is that he is like the miley cyrus of professors. he is just trying to be edgy. >> you don't know who he is when you are reading it. when i got to the end and found out he was a college professor, man was i shocked. it never entered my mind that that's wh

unfortunately, if you're really good in math, you don't necessarily go to law school. but if you're really good in political science or history, you might go to law school and you haven't taken math for a very long time. i think the reality is that the courts have to get up to speed. that was really the lessson of the daubert case and kelly frye as well, the lawyers, judges, the system more generally has to be able to evaluate the validity of proper expert testimony. we can't get around it. it's in the courtroom. the problem with latent fingerprints and firearms and handwriting and arson investigation and the list goes on and on as you know better than i, the problem is those were never actually evaluated. the court simply grandfathered it in or never even bothered to look at it. i can assure you that the forensic sciences, the nond.n.a. stuff is not brain science. it doesn't take a kent to look at the scientific methods underlying a lot of the forensic techniques and say that it's mostly junk. i do think your point is well taken that when you get to genetics and you g

. ♪ when i went to law school, my first year was very difficult.fact, i had a cousin who died the friday before i started law school. and i ended up that semester on probation. i went through the next semester. i was on probation again. well, for me that was a lot to swallow because law school for me was like identity, you know? and the thought that i would lose that was devastating. and then, you know, the whole notion of, oh, my god, it's going to be in the papers. i flunk out of law school. i was already dealing with a lot of anger. and so i went home, got a knife. and trying to figure out how to hurt myself so bad that i would not feel the pain and kind of end life. i remember my r50oommate came down, what are you doing? she went back and called my aunt and my mom and them. in the midst of her doing that i heard a voice saying, put down the knife, people are going to miss you. it was like, whew, something like blew a fresh breath into me. it's like i came to life at that moment. and, you know, my life turned around and i gave my life to jesus c