communities that we're arming like a military and there's many people within black communities like lawndale and ethyl wood say that the police are like an occupying army. you can't have war and peace at the same time. >> it is fear, professor, that all we're doing though is further defining the problem whether we talk about whether we should have more gun laws or less gun laws or bigger guns, it's more defining the problem and not working towards solutions. >> professor, you teach criminal justi justice, can you tell us factually is there a clear correlation between stricter gun laws and keeping the community more safe among youth or does it go the other way? is there any obvious correlation someone can point to and say look, these laws do that? >> no. cities and states with strict gun laws don't have lower homicide rates, no. >> exactly. that's going to allow them to keep raising it. something else people are weighing in on, right here behind me it's about the media. a lot of people think what are the latest findings about the correlation between exposure through violence in the media and