i thought what better way to start my summer vacation than hanging around lawndale. i did a bit of canvassing at that point. i went into the peace corps and after returning contacted jack and said i'd really like to spend time working with cbl. by that time a fund-raising service had been established, so i ended up working there in effect as a paralegal with the legal teams that were doing pro bono work on behalf of cbl. it allowed me to interact with the buyers on a regular basis, interviewing them, getting the kind of data that would be needed to argue the case in court. what motivated me? i don't know. i was a kind of the '60s. i guess maybe that was it as much as anything. >> it doesn't just stop for you with the cbl. you live in a community now in d.c. that's also gone through similar changes, through similar instances of segregation. what's your lifelong experience and engagement and interface with the housing segregation been like? and now that we are decades p t past, looking back what have the trends been? >> i grew up in a very working class neighborhood wh