been held in conditions that the balance tool tool for more on this i'm now joined by professor lawrence davidson he's in pennsylvania for us where you guys are being with us helen also you know with me is a whistleblower web site of course which anyone from anywhere in the world is able to contribute to you so why is brandy manning being singled out like this or he seems to have been. the alleged stores. many of the documents that are united states government around you create increasingly an incredibly embarrassing and unfortunately it seems to. share. his actions with a note or lager in the united states and i turned a geisha over to the u.s. government and they arrested him. now it has tolls viacom's i made international concern i think he's trying to support his claim that it's been that torture but the us says that the move has nothing to do with out what kind of innocence you think that there is to those claims. oh i think i think that. they are credible. there there's enough anecdotal evidence to say that to assume that he has been killed in what would be cruel and unusual conditions by a

ati's policy reporting from the libyan capital live for us earlier we spoke to lawrence davidson he's professor of middle east history at west university in pennsylvania he told me it that if nato is intending to help the rebels his tactics need to change all the operations center where the disaster is he says if the goal . was to facilitate the victory of the rebels rather it would say to critics civilians and i suspect that regime change was in fact the goal then they haven't succeeded and they're not going to succeed unless they can turn the rebel force into a viable fighting unit. can take one could offer designedly if they. made it best i think there's a lot of confusion and when you get confusion like. you have even on the ground in libya. so i think in the near future and was someone can take this inherent. the french or british or whoever somebody can take this in hand i think in the near future you're going to see a lot of name calling and finger pointing and it is going to get really embarrassing. still to come in the program whatever happened to the space race. saying it's

for the past ten months and conditions that his supporters claim amount to torture professor lawrence davidson says that washington's trying to make an example of manning to serve as a warning to others. u.s. government probably has already achieved its objectives in this case i mean they treated him so harshly and so severely. denying him his basic rights really legally and in terms of human rights that the warning is out that b. and the message is out that anybody else out there who who wants to do this who's a u.s. citizen and wants to to be his kind of informant on it is going to be treated in a most harsh way his and his or her life will be ruined just like manning's life is being ruined they will keep him and they will deal with him very harshly and it will he is an example for others not to do this but the u.s. government is going out there are many of the supporters of wiki leaks both the people who work work with them and also the people who give them money and so it's a general sort of white net that they're throwing you don't see much in the in the media but they're caught they're c

ground party's policy we are reporting from the libyan capital there now earlier we talked to lawrence davidson professor of middle east history at west chester university in pennsylvania he says that if nato is intending to help the rebels its tactics need to change or the operation will end in disaster if the goal. is to facilitate the degree of the rebels rather it is to protect civilians and i suspect that regime change was in fact a goal then they haven't succeeded and they're not going to succeed unless they can turn the rebel force into a viable unit it. can take away that is only if they can get a stalemate at best i think there's a lot of confusion and when you get confusion like you go you have to be even on the ground in libya you're going to start to move first. so i think at least in in the near future unless someone can take this inherent of the american sort of friendship british or whoever most american figures in here and i think in the neck near future you're going to see a lot of name calling and finger pointing and it is going to get really embarrassing still to come what ha

with the latest from the libyan capital i spoke earlier to lawrence davidson he's a professor of middle east history at west chester university of pennsylvania he told me that if nato isn't turning to help the rebels its tactics need to change all the operation is set to end in disaster as he sees it. if the goal. were it's to facilitate the victory of the rebels. to protect civilians and i suspect that regime change was in fact a goal then they haven't succeeded and they're not going to succeed unless they can turn the rebel force into a viable fighting unit. can take one of these already if they can because they all made it past i think there's a lot of confusion and when you get a computer like. you have even on the ground in libya you're going to certainly push. so i think in the near future unless someone can take this inherent you the americans or the french or british or whoever most somebody can take this in hand i think in the near future you're going to see a lot of name calling and finger pointing. and it's going to get really embarrassing. change of subject ahead in the prog

from the libyan capital there was trying to get more of a handle of the latest and bring in lawrence davidson is professor of middle east history at west chester university of pennsylvania pretty vinci thanks for being on the program have been reports that some government tanks were destroyed by nato forces today as the bombardments continue as you see it how do you gauge the success of this three week operation so far well it hasn't been very successful i mean if the goal. were is to facilitate the victory of the rebels rather to protect civilians and i suspect regime change was in fact the goal then they haven't succeeded and they're not going to succeed unless they can turn the rebel force into a viable unit it. can take growing he's already. made it best. and so what next and where is it going to go are we any closer do you think to seeing coalition ground troops center in libya. well there's a lot here in the united states there's enormous pressure for the americans not to get involved in that though there is pressure for the americans to increase the kind of firepower bat that they can

these poor sleep with the latest from the libyan capital lawrence davidson's a professor of middle east history at west chester university in pennsylvania spoke to him just last hour he told me countries involved early intervention will soon play a blame game if the operation goes wrong. if good goal. was to facilitate the victory of the rebels. to protect civilians and i suspect that regime change was in fact a goal then they haven't succeeded and they're not going to succeed unless they can turn the rebel force into a viable fighting unit who. can take one because already if they can pick out a stalemated best i think there's a lot of confusion and when you get confusion like you've got you have to be even on the ground in libya you're going to start to look for speed so i think in the near future it was someone can take this inherent we have the americans or the french or british or whoever we want somebody can take this in hand i think in the near future you're going to see a lot of name calling and finger pointing. and it's going to get really embarrassing. still ahead on the progr