lawrence epstein wonders, too. er of the ultimate fighting championship, and he joins us from las vegas where they have a big event this weekend. so lawrence, why can't i go he to a ufc event here in my home town? >> well, in 1997 the new york state legislature passed a law that potentially banned the sport of mixed martial arts. frankly, the sport that existed back then is different than the sport that exists today. with all the reforms that have taken place in the sport, everything from the addition of weight classes, time limits for rounds, proper health and medical safety testing for all the athletes, the sport that exists today is not the same sport that existed in 1997. however, the law that existed in '97 is still in effect today, and for the last five years we've been trying to get that overturned and, of course, have the state of new york regulate the sport of mixed martial arts. >> john: that's what i don't get. it's been 15 years. your organization is making tons of money ifen other places benefitting cit