. >> anything useful for you, lawrence koch. >> no, we know what happened. after the tragedy occurred, they appointed a panel led by admiral mullen, a former chairman, an ambassador of several administrations, and basically they explained what had happened. we already knew. since then we had eight committees, 32 hearings. obviously we know. and what tom and admiral mullen recommended, those are the steps we should take. the hearings aren't telling us anything we don't nope. >> when they try to put together a timeline of what the secretary knew, how she found ot facts of the developing situation, is there some use - you worked in an give level inside administrations, is there some use in ferreting that stuff out. >> sure, if you go back and read the report, it's in there. that's the problem. yes, mistakes were made. what we should focus on is how do we correct them. do we need more, you know, people, in security, do we need more foreign service officers. i went through a horrible experience when i was in government with the tragedy in lebanon. 240 mostly mari