thanks for joining us ben there's a real tab at the mention of business is lawrence krauss mathematical biologist martin oh well there's so many other names and institutions now being tied to epstein's what are some of the other ones we're talking about now because there are huge institutions and big names in the world. there are huge institutions we're talking about well you mentioned the universities so in mighty harvard both receive them mount sinai their school of medicine in new york they received funding as well as the institute in santa fe it's called the center for a institute in new mexico received a lot of money over the years from him there by the way the only organization that's talking about actually giving the money away everybody else to say no that they're going to keep it the more research alliance which you mentioned lawrence krauss was a part of so we're seeing that there were a lot of these different organizations that received money from him science organizations but let's be real here there's a reality to what was taking place is that jeffrey epstein was making a m