lawrence lawrence he is avoiding it now. >> doug: i know. >> lawrence: it's because he is a royal that-here's seem sympathetic as well. when he gave that interview, he didn't seem like he didn't want to be associated with jeffrey epstein. he seemed like he valued the connections, just like a royal. he was only concerned about the things that benefited him. and so, i think this is gonna be a moment for the royal family and i'm sorry this whole, i yeah, we're going to take you out of the public eye. you possibly committed a crime. if true what she said. >> dagen: not only i think he said in the interview that he would cooperate with the fbi if he was asked to give a statement. he ought to be interviewed by the fbi at a bare minimum and what about maxwell she was friends with prince andrew. she is in that photo that prince andrew tried to allege with virginia giuffre was not him because he wears a coat and ty when he goes out in london. the madam in all of this the roper for a pedophile. epstein visited with gill lane maxwell. and she had known andrew for much, much longer. where is she on all o

lawrence: i have two of them. people say you are libertarian. i'm against the government taking my information. >> dana: what does libertarian have to do with anything? lawrence lawrence does it i gave them consent. >> dana: what if amazon says we are going to work with the government? >> lawrence: then we will have a problem. >> doug: that the problem with technology. >> dana: we have one. if i want to know what the weather is i look at my phone. >> lawrence: i look at my to play the oceans at night because i go to sleep that way. you can do all types of stuff. >> dagen: i have old school sound machine or turn the faucet on in the bathroom. i want the alexa to yell at me. like an arlie voice. >> doug: what do you want alexa so-to-say? >> dagen: who won the game last night alexa. the cowboys lost because they suck! [laughter] >> doug: bills were pretty good i thought. >> lawrence: now everyone's alexas going off. texas and video going viral after he lost her hamster. screen shots minute by minute dissent into madness. please call me as soon as you get this it's an emergency. >> i'm never going to forgive myself if he doesn't come back. i'm so sorry. this is my biggest

lawrence. lawrence was a gentleman. he had a grand home that he had named after admiral edward kingn, who served under george. from that, young george saw what it meant to be a gentleman. he saw that status equated to wealth and so he wanted to become wealthy in your member time and again, i've said george is not the sharpest knife in the chore, but he does learn from others and while he was saying with his half-brother, he learned that he too could become successful if he made the right choices. , he became ang man surveyor and at the time, being a surveyor was on par with the doctor, lawyer. because surveyors were always going out on the front tier surveying land and if you are good at it, you have a trained is, you see land that oftentimes youd could take your payment in land. the young man began acquiring land. is in 1752, lawrence died. wouldestion is who inherit mount vernon? ultimately, one of lawrence's daughters inherited it. thereafter andy it passed down to young george, so by 1753, he was a guy that had this grand plantation home and this is a view that most of us have of mount vernon. the gorge looking .ut to the potomac river is that the front of the house? or is that the front of the house? it's interesting. hen lawrence was alive considered the front of the because it was there on the potomac river and the potomac was the highway to the sea, the sea took you to england and he saw himself as an englishman. as george takes over the home, george considers this to be the front of the house because this faces to the front tier, this faced to the land that he would eventually own. i think that is a huge difference for lawrence and for george and it helps to find george's -- george is. he saw himself not much of an english man, but more of an american. george also had the good fortune , 1758 to marry martha

lawrence. lawrence was a gentleman. he had a grand home that he had named after admiral edward vernon, who served under king george's war. from that, young george saw what it meant to be a gentleman. he saw that status equated to wealth, so he wanted to become wealthy. i've said george is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he learns from others. while he was saying with his half-brother, he learned that he too could become successful if he made the right choices. so as a young man, he became a surveyor and at the time, being a surveyor was on par with a doctor, lawyer. because surveyors were always going out on the frontier to survey land. if you are good at it, you have a trained eye, you see land that is advantageous, the land that is not, and often times you could take your payment in land. land is something that could bring wealth for the future. so the young man began acquiring land. the problem is in 1752, lawrence died. the question was, who would inherit mount vernon? ultimately, one of lawrence's daughters inherited it. she died shortly thereafter and it passed down to young george, so by 1753, here was a guy that had this grand plantation home and this is a view that most of us have of mount vernon. love you is -- that view is the out from the porch looking onto the potomac river. is that the front of the house? or is that the front of the house? that is the other side. it's interesting. when lawrence was alive, he considered the front of the therethis, because it was on the potomac river. potomac was the highway to the sea, the sea took you to england, and he saw himself as an englishman. as george takes over the home, george will consider this to be the front of the house, because this faces to the frontier. that faced to the land that >> i think that's a huge difference for lawrence and george and helps define who george is. he saw himself not so much as an englishman more as an american.

lawrence) i'm chief meteorologist lawrence karnow, i'll have your full bay area forecast after the break. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ if you're living with a condition, kaiser permanente's integrated care team will help you get through life without missing a beat. kaiser permanente. thrive. lots to talk about in the sports world tonight...(ken) mark carpenter join us now from the set of bay area sports night. (pam) take a look at this... these three newborns at saint luke's south hospital near kansas city.... are getting the full "frozen" treatment. infant versions of olaf the snowman, anna and elsa .... are melting hearts in the nursery. even when they outgrow those outfits ... they will have the legacy of starting their lives as "frozen- two" was starting its theatrical run. the sequel to 20- 13's mega-hit film is expected to make about 100 -million dollars this weekend. let's take a look outside chief meteorologist lawrencehere final look at lawrence karnow: it was friday as high pressure sunshine and temperatures area. highs the 50s and upper 60s. on image you can pressure again california. remain clear will be cold especially in valleys. lows 30s and 40s. be sunny and warmer weather. highs e60s and low spots. it will warmer on will pick up monday and be gusty over the rain and cold expected to tuesday end of the week. (pam) (pam) if you're watching us on the new 'kron- on' app - a full hour of local sports coverage is coming up next on 'bay area sports night'.(ken) kron-on is streaming live local news 24 hours a day with no comm >>> a daughter's cry for help. >> she says her mother was being assaulted and did not want the bad guy to know she was calling the cops. >> president trump's job drumming 54 minute call on television. >> the anchors can't get him to stop. >>> chilling video. >> inside the house where the young mom was murdered by he fianci. his

turning now to weather with lawrence karnow. lawrenceresident trump is defending himself again today by attacking career diplomats and members of his own administration.(pam) part of his defense is a conspiracy theory - shot down by u-s intelligence - which claims ukraine was responsible for the d-n-c hacking during the 2016 presidential election campaign. kaitlan collins reports. (pam) tonight, another key topic in washington -- vaping.(ken) president trump held a roundtable today on the topic with medical experts, health advocates and industry representatives. kron 4's grant lodes joins us ioin the studio with more from the discussion. the preisdent now seems to have a new proposal? (grant) back in september -- the president announced his adminsitration would work to ban all non-tobacco áflavored vaping products from the market. but nothing of consequense came of that. now -- the president says -- he wants to raise the age to buy vaping products to 21. he hosted the roundtable at the white house with vaping executives, blic-heatlh expe

lawrence karnow >>lawrence, how bad youxpect these winds to obviously it's dry. we need the rain desperately, but is it goi to bed this week we are going to be gusty agai i don't think a strong of a wind from the previous was but still strong engh we just haven't had any rain yet so certainly that is a concern and that's why we're looking at the red flag warnings going up around the bay area, those ryan or leave northeasterly winds that offshore wind. we'll start to pick up even by tomorrow afternoon. the official red flag warningson't go in effect unt wednesday through thursday morning. but certainly those winds will already be picking up by tomorroafternoon. we'll show you those right here. here's the fairly gentle breeze out ther right now then we start to see the changes by tomorrow afternoon, the winds part of the unit pick up andou see more of a northerly component the win in the afternoon. he was some stronger nds along the coastline see the area shaded there in some orange and some yellow, so some are stronger gust. but those will ntinue to through the evening hours to the 20 mile an hour winds in the sonoma but even more than that that's when we start to really get things going. the main brunt of the wind from this event it's going to take place overnight on wednesday night into early thursday moing. that's what we're expecting see some of those winds gusting possibly over 40 miles per hour. we could see again some 60 milen hour gusts, mainly over the mountain tops but certainly things are extremely dry right now i'm sure we get a fire started that would be a problem, not only that i think we're seeing another wind event not oy ths middle of this week b maybe by the end ofhis weekend 2 guys we'll have more on that coming up for you in a few minutes, thank you lawrence pray for rain right to this is the 5th time the pgaas cut power in the last month and a half. >>forappened in october on october 9th, 8 of 9 bay area counties were affecd in a widespread shut off that affected 800,000 customers in northern california. it happened 3 times in the span of a week. october 23th october and the 29th. in the bay area sonoma and napa counties have been inuded in ch of these 5 shut off. and tonight at 5.30 pg e exutives on the hot seat, facing criticism from lawmars and questions about the widespread power shut off that left hundreds of thousands in the dark. a reportrom the state capitol is tonight at 5.30. >>the other big story we're tracking here tonight a deadly shootinrampage rocking the city of fresno tonight police say ey're trying to prevent any more violence, including possible retribution after a back yard shooting killed 4 men and injured 6 other fresno police say among family was having a party when people went into the backyard and stted firing. t

lawrence. >> martin lawrence. >> stephen: there is a scene with me and martin lawrence in "big momma's house four." ( laughter )this one. >> oh, you go to the moon. >> stephen: big momma on the moon, yeah. >> okay. ( laughter ) >> stephen: i don't know, i. didn't see it. ( cheers and applause ) >> so you didn't see those scenes or you didn't see the movie yet? >> stephen: i don't know. i don't know which one. good movie. it's a great movie. it's a good movie. >> i'm glad. i can't wait to see it. >> stephen: yeah. is there anything you wants to tell me about it? ( laughter ) >> stephen: no. ( laughter ) ( applause ) you can talk. you can talk. >> well, i saw the movie, and it wasn't so great, but -- ( laughter ) -- but you were great in it. >> stephen: what? you were great. ughtere movie, not en: okay. ( laughter ) >> he talks less out here put i know we talked backstage and he was giving me a whole rundown of the film and everything but for some reason, he doesn't want to talk. what do you want to talk about? >> i got a restaurant. okay, what kind of restaurant do you have? >> stephen: i don't know. ( laughter

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chief lawrence karnow here final look at lawrence winds calmed weather the sun temperatures into thestorm rain have the state and is getting again. tonight will be mostly cold lows in the 30s and expect 40s in along the coast too. be sunny and highs in the 60s with 50s coast. will warm this weekend with moving into change in the pattern is thanksgiving week. showers late on much colder (pam) if you're watching us on the new watching us if you're (pam) if you're watching us on the new 'kron- on' app - a full hour of local sports coverage is coming up next on 'bay area sports night'.(ken) kron-on is streaming live local news 24 hours a day with no visit kron-on-dot-tv to start watching now. that wraps at 6. we'll see 8.... on your bay area's station. next at 8:with murder ... the man stabbing a fellow bart rider faces a then: a car through a local storefront ... six people injured ... what six people storefront ... local through a smashes then: a car judgerider faces a fellow bart stabbing a suspected of the man with murder ... charged next at 8: >>> chloe's last moments. >> there she

lawrence karnow lawrence, nobody has an excuse to to to did not vote tonight this that clearly you know there's some nice weather around the bay area and this is it right to this a very nice i'd like to but in my vote for a little rain but right now that doesn't seem to be happening. it looks like we're just going to see that fog out there we have some think it is ringed is got that fog out there right now and you can see kind of settling in right near the in san francisco, no delays being reported the airport to see. >>kind of just move to the west of the airport right now but more that dense fog showing up for the golden gate bridge about that you can see very thick out toward the bridge right now that are going to be dealing with overnight tonight and early tomorrow morning. so certainly could affect the commute just a little bit lives on the west now in san francisco bringing that fog on shore and that will push an inside the bay and again it's a very low level cloud deck so not going to make its way all the way into the tri valley are much of the east bay but you will see that inside the bay early tomorrow morning and it will be thick in spots. high pressure still overhead and that is what the reagan the system right now that's for sure that ridge just too strong and it's not allowing any chance, but any rain to come our way temperatures around the bay area right now chilly 49 and foggy in pacifica 58 in berkeley 62. in tehran, 56 degrees in the napa valley. overnight tonight, we'll see mostly clear skies and chilly temperatures inland patchy dense fog, hazy sunshine for tomorrow, staying cool by the coastline, but that ridge of high pressure just too strong and that guess what unfortunately to the we're seeing a lot of the haze outside so i pressure sits overhead just not allowing for anything to mix out. so right now we're going to see more sunshine just >>politics may influence your decision to call california home a recent poll by you see berkeley's institute of governmental studies founded half of california voters of thought about moving out with republicans and conservatives mean about 3 times as likely as democrats and liberals to consider putting california in their rearview mirror. >>i feel like people come here, you deliver california lifestyle, but game sometimes is to lay back for for individuals, you know, or 2 to liberty or liberal, if that's the word. and so people relies and light. it just freaks them out as a dog is like this paradise life >>this comes as new census data find more people are leaving california than moving in. the data say almost 700,000 people moved out of california last year. well half a million people moved in. so where are they going to lone star state topped the list of places that x californians move to last year that is followed by arizona washington, nevada and oregon. and the state that are coming together to try to break apart pg need we'll tell you about their plan ahead. >>well now 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kincade fire that fire is now 84% contained. firefighters hope to have it fully contained by thursday of this week. hundreds of structures were destroyed though and 77,000 acres have burned and now that all the evacuation orders have been lifted. people forced to flee their homes and hillsbor now getting first looks at their homes or what's left of them. yeah kron four's fleet recall checked in with the family that lost. >>just about everything. >>smoke and flames replaced by contractors clearing the road. what's typically a 15 minute ride along leslie road for jason diedrich to reach his uncle's property in healdsburg stretching closer to 45 minutes. well crews shuttle debris to make the roadways safer. for people to pass appear along with and a. >>this is devastating we met diedrich song paul richard to 48 and his wife latanya last week. >>while they were seeking help at the sonoma county fairgrounds in santa rosa, i'm not doing well. >>2 us senators diedrich returned to his uncle's property tuesday, one of several trips. he's made since evacuation orders were lifted is down to the centers and. rival at the family home was ongulfed by the kincade fire. though the barn and a storage unit we're essentially unscathed the house and at least a dozen vehicles were destroyed up and drive way to become are. >>the bands you think the place is say we care about this tpo and you're popping here and as you it on. >>i ran to the drinks as the water levels of his uncle's 2 ponds are significantly lower now compared to when the fire started he believes fire crews use the water for airdrops several neighbors managed to keep their homes in part diedrich says with help from the 2, 4 years water. and yet it is days who were left to rebuild this terrible, you know the way it all came down because i expected to see you. >>okay so now it's appearing though. the free entry way with the appear cook and some but not a a not a day one horses missing otherwise all other family livestock is accounted for. >>and the family is still whole that's enough to keep them strong in healdsburg felipe should all kron 4 news bg ning executives are now responding to the threat of a possible government takeover of their utility. seal bill johnson along with some executives and lawyers representing fire victims in the company's bankruptcy case. that was governor gavin newsome in sacramento today newsome set up the meeting in an attempt to get the company out of bankruptcy sooner. it also comes as some state and local officials say they want a government takeover of the company's equipment. pg e c e o says he doesn't think those are good ideas. the she of course facing constant criticism and now in this proceeding for its role in the wildfires. it is also under scrutiny for intentionally shutting off power to millions of people. a number of times last month. the governor says he hopes to broker a deal between the groups major changes can happen for p g t p g until it is out of bankruptcy several mayors from the bay area and beyond has signed a letter calling on the pc and the governor to seriously consider. >>turning pg any into a giant customer owned co-operative san jose mayor sam liccardo says the best way for pg e to emerge from bankruptcy is to become a customer owned utility. by creating a customer and utilities will first be able to. >>ally in the financial interests of the company with the public interest and secondly we'll be able to create a company that has access to capital markets that will be critically needed for this utility to get back on its feet. >>a letter delivered to the today. signed by the mayors of oakland sacramento, at least a dozen other cities calls on the pc to consider the customer owned idea could avoid shareholder dividends and save rate payers billions of dollars in financing. system upgrades and other costs as well. the coalition's plan calls for selling billion in bonds to finance a buyout the customer owned utility wood said its own rates in those same customers would pay back the debt through their monthly energy bills. >>and get a 4 zone forecast and we're going to show quite a dramatic shot of the golden gate bridge with the fog returning. yeah, the fog rolls familiar with the and chief meteorologist lawrence karnow joins us now to talk we get more of that stuff got the out of fog rolling in right now may be a chance for starters he hit that maybe things aren't as bad as it looked yesterday as far as rain is concerned maybe we start to see something. >>punching through a little bit later on right now yet the fog is starting to move on shore outside right now you get that haze out there in the bay too. and you see some fog out there the distance watching shot though, just watching downtown san francisco towards city hall a moment ago. well there it is now you can see the fog is really rolling in thinking up and so city hall disappearing in that bank of fog. they are getting weather in other parts of the country. they're cold us outbreak of the season. so far of got one area of low pressure whole trough kind of dive here i think as we get into the latter part of this week we're talking temperatures with the wind chill maybe feel like the 20's. downtown new york city and of course looks like

lawrence: what did you first discover you are an alien? >> 1982. >> [inaudible] >> this hat is to protect my mind from interference of any kind. >> lawrence: any actual aliens yet? >> not yet but we are hoping. >> lawrenceyou guys had any interaction with the outside world? >> today, no. yesterday, also no. kind of. we had some weird dreams the night before. ♪ >> i know that god has been calling me for a long time and the devil has been distracting me for a long time. even for someone who is professing god and saying "this is going to be a gospel album was quote, the devil is going to come and do everything he can to distract people from knowing how to fully be in service to the lord. >> lawrence: how did you feel about the sunday service experience? >> i thought it was amazing. it's so cool to have somebody that you looked up to musically to come here and see their life transformed. >> i know td can make a lot of things look better than what it is sometimes but i think he's staying the course and he is walking his walk. >> lawrence: how are you handling people seeing this evolution -- you've always talked about christ but in this new way? >> now i got the ultimate security guard and that's god and is t

lawrence karnow is tracking the storm for us lawrence the system is being called a cyclamen explain. yeah, this is a room. >>rapidly intensifying storm system really in just the last 24 hours didn't look like much at all the gulf of alaska, but look at it now this is a serious storm that is moving in the california is going to change everything for us. this week of course we haven't seen any significant rainfall so far this season we're getting it now you see the snowball so piling up in the sierra nevada too driving up there very very dangerous tonight. some blizzard conditions expected across the sierra nevada winds gusting there over 65 maybe 70 miles per hour. but look at that rain coming down in the bay area's we take for a closer look. you can see some of those showers popping up some heavier bands now making their way into parts of the south bay they will get some downpours are really taking the better part of the day to get the rain in that direction otherwise the showers continuing across san francisco stretching into union city parts of the east bay too and then the main cold front is actually just beginning to move into the north bay where they've seen the most significant rainfall so far some of those are rain totals upwards of a half an inch of rain so far and there's plenty more to come. in fact there is some concern tonight and some of the north bay that we're looking at the possibility of some flash flooding. so some advisories have been posted in those areas and the north bay specially in and around the contained fire of the burn areas not able hold out water there's just not the root systems from up last there so certainly concern that we could see some flash flooding there. but this storm season looks like it is kicking off finally it took a long time to get here. the rain now rolling back in the bay area gray skies outside there tonight and more showers on the way maybe even some thunderstorms too. and it's going to be so cold guys not only are we just going to see the snow in the sierra nevada likely going to see that our local mountains to well morning weather guys coming up. >>in a few minutes height, lawrence real weather to talk about yes lawrence pointed out if you plan to to this year for thanksgiving, you know it actually might be too late. heavy rainfall already forcing closures on highways headed to tahoe. and it's going to get worse tonight. this is a live picture of interstate 80 at castle peak blizzard conditions at this hour. a chp says westbound traffic is being held up in turkey and then eastbound traffic at all to that's 2 to several crashes in the area any cars you see here are just residual traffic but the interstate between truckee and all to is closed and caltrans says it could actually close more roads depending on the storm's severity. >>and for a lot of people the storm is marking the really the official start of rainy for those concerned about drought, yeah, it's a good sign. but for those who are worried about landslides. >>it most definitely is not kron four's dan kerman live for us tonight in sausalito with details. hi dan. >>hi we're right here along crescent avenu

but first we go to our chief meteorologist lawrence karnow tracking the storm lawrence how much rain probably going to see another inch. >>maybe a little bit more than that some parts of the area overnight tonight but we're really just kind of get into this. we've seen the lighter amounts coming to

lawrence. in 2013 lawrence was found guilty of second degree murder for ordering his men to fire on three men on a motorcycle in afghanistan. just three days after his release from the military barracks in ft. leavenworth, kansas, lawrencepeaking out about the military leadership that advised president trump against the pardon. >> i think folks that start putting stars on their collar, anybody that's got to be confirmed by the senate for a promotion, they're no longer a soldier, they're a politician. and so i think they lose some of their values. and they certainly lose a lot of the respect from their subordinates when they do what they did to me, which was, you know, throw me under the bus, mr. presidentme. i wish you had a better team around you. you need more people watching your back. and i think you don't have a lot of that. >> now, president trump also pardoned army major matthew goldstein, who was awaiting trial on a murder charge of an unarmed afghan man. that happened in his 2020 employment. and caesar gallagher had been demoted regarding the death of an isis prisoner. let's talk about this now. i want to bring in rachel van handringham. she now teaches law at a law school. the pentagon is staunchly opposed to

lawrence karnow tracking the storm lawrence how much rain we get. probably going to see another inch. >>maybe a little bit more than that some parts of the area overnight tonight but we're really just kind of get into this. we've seen the lighter amounts coming to look at the storm system what a gorgeous storm is just rapidly developing will call a bomb cyclone is it's really intensifying as it's approaching the coastline now the rain has really just started to pick up the main cold front now making its way into the bay area you see that band that is now moving through that some heavier amounts of rain that are sliding to the bay area we've even had the lightning strike here within the last half hour or so looks like kind of a rough night to travel around the bay area tonight as that rain continues to move through and those heavier bands are sliding through as well. now some that continues into mill valley into richmond stretching across into oakland also into san francisco, the heavier amounts of rain have been dropping as much as a half an inch of rain in some parts of the north bay today, lighter amounts elsewhere. but you can see all the rain moving through right now in the san francisco. it is really just started pick up as we take you down to street level you can see right there. on mission street you've got a pretty good cell coming through your area, the patrol district you're seeing some heavier bands moving to your neighborhood as well up in the north bay, the bands have been pushing through into the napa valley now moving south. hercules there seems a pretty good rainfall also into richmond else also just beginning to pick up now in the concord and that ban will continue to slide to the south so as it does that rain will start to intensify and pick up elsewhere around the bay area and there certainly the possibility of some lightning rain moving now on the pacific and now beginning pick up they're not as much as you head a little further to the southeast you can see just ahead of that cold front but some very strong gusty winds out ahead of this cold front as well we're seeing some winds 3040 miles per hour. in fact some of those winds upper to 50 miles per hour across some of the mountain peaks, san jose just some light showers at this time so you have to wait, but don't worry it is coming your way you see that band that is just about to make its way into san ramon. and of course we've been talking about the sierra nevada, how about that all whole lot of snow and very low snow levels too. >>even plaster bill looking at some snow right now. >>and thank you more from you later of course it has been months us as we've seen any rainfall and also this storm marks the official start of the rainy season for the bay area for those concerned about drought. it's a good sign. but for those worried about landslides it's a whole different story kron four's dan kerman has more. >>from sausalito. like many parts of the bay area rain began to fall in sausalito in the early afternoon. >>i'm glad to see the rain because we need badly. >>but for city officials there's always a heightened concern when it rains i don't think he really can be totaldy confident and in what mother nature throws at us everything from geological hazards to storm damage to everything else so we do our best to to keep an eya on it and manage it. and that's the best we can do. he was in february when the land above sausalito boulevard broke free. >>crossing the street and sending one home crashing down the hill into another on crescent avenue just weeks ago that debris was finally removed, it presented a hazard if you know you're not quite sure if that material will move when the rains hit. and so we wanted to get all that material out of here. before the rains actually showed up seed in green netting is now where the homes and debris once were to prevent erosion and just before the rain hit tuesday, public works crews put in some extra protection to catch green material before it goes into storm drains on crescent and more is coming in a couple of weeks. we're going stolen additional drainage system down below right across the road in front of us and connect it down to a lower drainage system above sausalito boulevard plastic remains on the slope where the actual slide started to keep additional water from getting on to the hillside that should reduce but not eliminate the risk of future slides. the city is also working with the park service to put in additional eyes and ears. they've got a geotechnical from this going to put in some slow meters and some other monitoring devices up there in the next couple weeks. >>in order to manage and keep an eye on what as ever happening with the slope above. >>so we are tracking these way storms as they move through the bay area are forced michelle kingston live for us tonight and walnut creek which apparently michelle turn even see some rain there as well. >>it was really coming down. it's starting to come down once again we're also seeing a lot of wind starting to pick up. and we just saw lightning here in downtown walnut creek. rain jackets umbrella. creek people shopping early sales and kids enjoying time off from school so my friends and i were just shopping around. >>and it looks like about the rain i don't know i want to get too cold or too late. >>some shoppers enjoying the change in weather after a very dry few months so the bay area, so excited. the cold temperatures the brain in the winter finding them. family feels like thanksgiving now. i can't speak for everyone, but i really don't mind the rain it's the call. >>all that's bothering me today it feels like it just kind of slapped us in the face and all the sudden it's here. it is winter, but it's not stop i think people from coming out tonight a lot of people here and downtown walnut creek grabbing dinner and of course shopping some of those early black friday deals back to you guys. >>michelle try to stay dry out there and warmer in county saw some rain earlier than other some rain earlier than other parts of the bay area the to be cautious on the roads because this really is the first significant storm we've had in quite a while the highway patrol says because of the rain oil is coming up out of the asphalt which could make the roads even slicker. they're also asking that you keep a good distance between vehicles just in case, somebody tries to suddenly stop yeah. >>and if you are planning travel to the sierra for thanksgiving officials say you may want to reconsider pushing your departure until 3rd. >>thursday look at that that does not look like a fun place to be already today the highway patrol has closed interstate 80 between try key and all to after several spinouts and crashes it has since reopened but the snowstorm is creating some blizzard-like conditions there let's go live now to dennis shanahan who's in and gold run placer county with conditions tennis we see you all bundled out there bring us up to date on what is like. >>the as you can see we have heavy snow coming down here at gold run this isn't about the 3,000 foot elevation keep in mind during some of the drought years. we didn't see snow at this elevation at all during those years it was usually about 6,000 feet here we have this want to also direct your attention interstate 80 which is just barely moving here through gold run as you're looking at eastbound traffic we're very near the team control checkpoint which is right now at all tested these cars and trucks it is crawling along to get to that checkpoint we can take you to some video that was shot just before sundown this video shot in cold facts in cold facts mind it was just above 2000 feet or on 2000 between 2 3,000 feet and that is where the rain was quickly turning over to snow. so very low snow. they had to close down caltrans and highway patrol closed down interstate 80 between all to in truckee that's the entire donner summit area between about 3 5 o'clock because of multiple spinouts and accidents and they have since reopen the roadway but of course keep in mind even though interstate 80 is now open it could close again spinouts and accidents are likely but to get the chains on the cars that trying to get him safely so here we can show you this live shot again the trucks just creeping along interstate 80 travelers are advised to just avoid this area tonight. if you get your thanksgiving plans are taking up to the mountains, the wait until the worst of this storm passes tonight. hopefully there are some windows of opportunity in the next couple days reporting live a gold run dennis shanahan kron 4 news hayden is real quick a looks like the traffic really is going like 3 or 4 miles an hour. it's that any a time estimates on. >>what i guess typically it's about 90 minutes to get from sacramento to lake any time estimates on how long it takes to get up there right now. >>can tell you we haven't heard anything official on that from the chp va just based on our experience here on the mountain. this is going to take people i would say at least 3 hours because first you just crawling along to get to the team control checkpoint and then the speed limit in the chain control areas is 30 miles per hour so keep that in mind and that doesn't factor in any of this slowdown is because of spinouts and accidents that are likely to happen every time we have conditions like this up the mountain. >>you think quite a picture they're standing in the snow. i want our viewers to know you can track the weather in your neighborhood anytime with the kron 4 app. >>you will find full forecast interactive radar and weather alerts all straight to your device you can download the kron 4 app today coming out. >>from your local dispensary is about to get more expensive in one state legislator wants to know why. now he says the move could backfire and even be dangerous to consumers last while the bay area is experiencing rain other sections of the country dealing with hazardous weather as well we'll show you where millions of people being affected and if you're headed south taking i 5 heading toward the great fight in la to get home for the holidays or visit for the holidays, we're going hear from the fresno highway patrol on the road conditions through that part of the state. that's right after the break. >>and raiders rolled to the bay area now strong cold front moving through at this time checke >>welcome back. we're tracking the storm across the bay area and across northern california is a live picture. the radar scene and you can see a it's a big line this stretching from half moon bay all the way across san francisco across the east bay. covering most of oakland wannacry conquered all the way into antioch and it's moving toward the southeast. so fremont redwood city, san jose cupertino you're going to get hit next and get ready thousands of people of course already hitting the road for >>a day in this rainy weather. they will need to be extra careful because of the potential for dangerous conditions. we're now joined on the phone by shasta tolleson with the highway patrol in the central valley in fresno shasta what's your advice right now, i know you cover a lot of territory people are heading up towards yosemite up the sierra the central sierra. >>and a lot of people going on i 5 toward la what's your recommendation right now. >>and good afternoon. right now we are getting a little bit of rain that through that murder desso area. it is that traveling to the south at this anybody traveling to those higher elevations up toward the east the park or to the fear that couple of our passes are closed as the past in our past are currently closed if you're headed up toward shaver lake on the one 68. we do have chain control in effect. >>so your key trouble spots you kind of just listen what are you anticipating though as more and more people begin to travel into tomorrow. >>we did do have that storm that is coming in and with the ax the club on the roadway. they were going to have tremendous slow down, i'm not only because of the weather but that but also with all that extra to travel. but just reminder that when the rain there coming down slow down increase that following distance from the vehicle in front you make sure that you do have those headlights on and mature winter wafers are in proper working order. >>our understanding is the snow level of grapevine is about 5,000 i guess it's open still, but we were just looking at some pictures some live in the dark, it looks like traffic is really heavy. what do you have any forecast of how things are to shape up on the great find are they could have chain controls on the great find they don't have that too often. >>i'm of the good years we actually get know we do shut down the grapevine unfortunately because we can't keep up with keeping the clouds but if you are traveling to or through those higher elevations to make sure that you do carry chains that you do you know how to properly put them on your vehicle. we do kind of anticipate that we are going to have some fell on the ground caltrans is already out ready with the hot rocks and sand trucks as well. but he gets to cut it make sure that you carry some blanket, maybe facts as well. >>do you have extra >>up and down the great time because this bad weather and the heavy traffic for the holiday. >>this is the maximum important weekend for us that we do have extra patrols all throughout the 8. we take more. we paid a more attention to those higher troubled areas at the we'll have officers out there we will have no truck as well and again couch and out there to try and help the travelers long on their way is there a lot of the activity heading toward yosemite this time of year. >>and not too much. headed up toward the mountain. i think a lot of our commuters are headed in the south that or straight through the valley. >>just to tell us and with the chp thank you so much for your insight into what's going on in your direction with all of the travel this going on yor the holiday and a happy thanksgiving to you. >>happy all right. we want to take a live look outside. >>here in the bay area now and see how things are shaping up this is the golden gate. and you can see how what it is people moving right along now. >>lawrence it's been a very busy day for you i know, yeah we're stoked as google super cute so nice to see the rain back and we certainly could use and looks like this could open the door to a series of storms coming through not only are we seeing the rain we got the wind howling around the bay area really and dance cold front coming through 38 mile hour gusts now in mill valley, but you see that all around the bay area 35 in oakland 32. sfo 32 in pacifica so certainly get some strong winds out ahead of this cold front and there it is the main event now sliding through the bay area. some heavy amounts of rainfall now moving through you see the heaviest band right to the central bay stretching across into oakland in hayward in danville you've got all that rain coming your way in for a closer look that you're even see some orange and some red that is some very intense rainfall that is now moving through back to some of these areas seeing some pretty extreme downpours in this area of this year neck

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lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. and don't worry about monday. roger stone cannot be found guilty again. and did you ever imagine that on the day roger stone's verdict would come in and it would come in guilty on all counts, that it would be in my hour, anyway, literally the last story i'm going to be able to get to? >> exactly. you have to like squeeze it in among everything else that not only happened over the course of the day but that's been happening over the course of the night. this is crazy. at least a two-way tie for the most oimportant story of the night on a day when the president tweeted his way into his own impeachment hearing with a tweet that some say might be worthy of its own article of impeachment. we also have congressman erick swalwell racing towards us because we just got word that that closed door deposition just ended one minute ago. and congressman swalwell has been in it all the way and that of course has just taken over the number one position the way we'll begin tonight with new details about the cell phone call from restaurant in ukraine over heard by david holmes and who knows who else. >> i mean i'm very excited to hear what congressman swalwell is able to tell you about the deposition. having access to the opening statement from that witness, that witness is able to give us jaw-dropping detail about the call which puts the president at the center of this scandal. in addition to that, the witness is giving us corroborating information and testimony about other elements of othis scandal in terms of what he was able to see from the u.s. embassy in ukrain and he was there after marie yovanovitch has left. a lotf of the criticism was you weren't there when the worst of all of it happened. and it's a new witness we didn't even know the name of until yesterday. >> when the news of this call emerged and it first emerge said in ambassador daytaylor's testimony, a staff member over heard the phone call. i was so stunned at the imagery of gordon sondland in kiev calling thes of the united states on a cell phone. the unsecure nature of that call is so wild and we've since had john brennan and others on saying of course the russians were listening to the call . of course that call in that atmosphere was recorded by other intelligence services. >> and that time in july the fact that the u.s. was putting this kind of pressure on ukraine, putting aid at risk at other things wasn't being publicly discussed at all. we've had all the expert testimony about how it's so important to ukraine's national security and their ability to negotiate with russia that anybody not know ethere was any rift at all between them and us, their most important ally and the whole world listening. did i get my investigations? to the extent he was broadcasting that by having it on an unsecure line. that means the whole world knew what kindf of improper pressure trump was putting on that country and that alliance. which means that phone call alone hurt ukraine in their war against russia. america will have to pay for that for as long as the rest of us live. >> and this is one of those w k weeks, nights where i can't get the chant out of my head, the idea that the former secretary of state should be locked up because of questionable security practices involving email communication which turned out to not end up being certainly a legal problem at all. but an entire presidential campaign based on how dare you not use the absolute most secure high level forms off communication when we know jared kushner, ivanka trump and uthes have been using personal email and much, much worse. and the gordon sondland phone call is as bad as that gets. >> yes, a sensitive, national security matter that matters most of all in the country likely to be listening in on the call. the president not only talking about crime he's committing but endangering the national security of that ally. but there's roger stone with the lock her up t-shirt. >> here's what we know we don't have on monday. we know we don't have a public hearing but president trump will be allowed to tweet on monday. who knows what happens monday. >> i'm compartmentalizing and refusing to think about that. >>> the breaking news of the night is that closed door deposition of david holmes that started this afternoon and ended six hours after it started going late into the night. and david holmes' opening statement has been obtained by nbc news and rocked washington as much as any of the testimony already been made public and it will have a profound effect on the impeachment inquiry. his testimony, which provoked, very specifically provoked, by some of the it things that republicans have been saying in the public hearings this week. david holmes had no intention in testifying until he saw that republicans kept complaining about what they called hearsay and he realized that he had relevant testimony that was not hearsay. and so he testified this afternoon in a closed door, under oath deposition after former ukraine ambassador testified in a dramatic public hearing this morning. he's a member of the senior staff stationed at the u.s. embassy in kiev. and in a copy of david holmes' opening statement, he explained exactly why he came forward. as the current impeachment inquiry has progressed, i have followed press reports and reviewed statements of ambassador taylor and you von vich. i believe the relevant facts were therefore being laid out for the american people. however, in the last week or so i read press reports expressing for the first time that certain senior officials may have been acting without it president's knowledge in their dealings with ukrain, at the same time i also read reports noting the lack of first-hand evidence in the investigation and suggesting that the only evidence being illicited at the hearings was hearsay. i dime came to realize i had first-hand knowledge that had not others with been reported and they were using the levers oour diplomatic power the ukrainian president and it was at that point i raised to ambassador taylor the incident i had witnessed had acquired greater significance, which is what he reported in his testimony earlier this week. it's a telephone call made by donald trump's ambassador, gordon sondland, from a restaurant in ukraine to the president of the united states, sitting at the table, he could easily hear what the president was saying on the other end of othat call. quote on mr. sondland's phone was not on speaker phone, i could hear the president's voice through the ear piece of the phone. it was very loud and recognizable and ambassador sondland held the phone away from his ear for a period of time, presumably because of the loud volume. i heard him greet the president and explain he was calling from ceebev. i heard president trump clarify that ambassador sondland was in ukraine. he replied yes, he was and that president zelensky loves your as. and ambassador sondland said he's go doing it. adding president zelensky will do anything you ask him to. and the president replied he was in a bad mood, which is usually the case early in the morning. i then asked for his candid impression. i asked if it was true that president didn't give a crap about ukrain. ambassador sondland agreed he did not give a crap about ukraine. i asked why not he added that the president only cares about big stuff. i added there was big stuff going on in ukraine like a war with russia. and ambassador sondland replied big stuff that benefits the president, like the biden investigation. leading up with us is swalwell, he has been in closed door deposition all afternoon and this evening. he has just left the deposition to join us and took part in the yovanovitch public impeachment hearing today. as i understand the deposition has just been completed? >> good evening. we are done with both ambassador yovanovitch's testimony and the deposition with david holmes and of course bright and early tomorrow morning we have one last witness for the week in onb employee. >> we have read, as you know, his opening statement has become public. it is shocking enough, as an opening statement. after this opening statement, what was developed in the six hours of testimony that followed it? >> just what exactly did mr. holmes see, what did he hear and what did he do? it was the reason we called him in today. i will say first and foremost with gratitude to mr. holmes, because he showed up. he came from ukrain and despite mick mulvaney and secretary rick perry refusing to cooperate with our investigation, mr. holmes continues this long line of career foreign service officers honoring the duty to cooperate with congress and each time someone has done that, just as mr. holmes has today, we have learned new information and we learned new inform algz today. >> in terms of the security of that cell phone call, did you learn new details about what kind of device that was was that a personal cell phone? >> i'm not going to go into his testimony just yet. i'll let our chairman characterize that. but i think we're five exits past security concerns. we know donald trump doesn't really execute or carry out operational security taz as it relates to his cell phone. there were concerned about ambassador sondland and his security. what we're focussed on is whether he leveraged taxpayer dollars to his benefit. and as you heard ambassador taylor talk about his interaction with david holmes, i don't think anyone has trouble believing president trump followed up with ambassador sondland to see are they going to follow through with the investigations? because he needed those investigations for his own personal political gain. >> what can you tell us about david holmes' credibility in the six hours and the republican's approach to holmes' credibility? >> and i can tell you just like people beforehand, he has served all over the world. a person of integrity. i did not judge or see any reason to question his truthfulness and again the fact that he showed up, says a lot about who he is compared to so many people that have chosen to defy us. and i don't expect there to be any issues with his integrity or ability. >> the opening statement has many things that there striking. but it's very clear that david holmes is saying he didn't see himself as a witness in these proceedings until he heard republicans complaining repeatedly about hearsay. and he realized that what he has to say is not hearsay. he was a witness physically present listening to the words exactly as they were spoken. was there any complaining about hearsay in the deposition today? >> i did not hear them say anything about that, lawrence. however, the best evidence remains the president's own words that the president put out. that's an admission by the president. the next best evidence is from people like ambassador sondland who told ambassador taylor the president is telling him everything is on the line, not just the white house visit but the security assistance. and of course as ambassador taylor described, you have a new witness in david holmes who heard the president talking incessantly about the investigations with the bidens. and finally we use hearsay all the time. if we're talking about hearsay to find out and take actions. by the way a terrorist named osama bin laden was captured and brought to justice in pakistan based on hearsay evidence. so hearsay evidence can be quite effective. >> and david holmes, in his opening statement, full of praise for ambassador yovanovitch. what was your understanding of of the effect of the public hearing this morning? >> the american people saw a smart, dedicated, tough anti

lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. have, it could have theoretically can cut into "hth rachel maddow show". side of 10:00 p.m. you just let it roll, just like the hearing, roll right into overtime past 10:00 p.m. don't even think about it. don't lose anything if they go einto your time. >> only if you and i are in the same city so that can we can sit at the same desk and juggle that together i would do that, my friend.ie >> that's a plan. year going to be watching tomorrow night, rachel. >>> well, in the first impeachment hearing of the day, hearsay finally disappeared. >> you 3rd call with your own ears, right? >> yes. >> you heard his voice on the kul? >> correct. >> and your conclusion is what he said about investigating the bidens is unusual and inappropriate . >> that was my testimony. >> you heard it for your own ears? not second-hand? >> yes. >> and you heard him raise it had thub jection again about investigating the bideens? >> i did. the. >> and what was i the first thought that went through your mind? >> frankly, i couldn't believe what i was hearing. it was probably an element o

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lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. and i was listening to every word of what you found in that portion of the anonymous book, which is what, two weeks away from being published, approximately? >> yeah. >> and does it give you any setting for these meetings? i mean we don't know in these discussions whether this is a budget discussion or whether it's a homeland security discussion. is that the way it reads that you can't quite fix that? >> well, it reads like somebody who's in direct contact with the president or somebody who was otherwise able to assert confidently that they can directly quote the president and describe not only his actions and his words but his demeanor. and what's described here is security stuff in part and the president's odd fixation on visual memes and visual cues even when he can't absorb anything with a comma in it. basically anything that has more than one concept in it delivered to him in prose at more than one time. >> in many other white houses there'd be ways of narrowing down the possibilities of who was likely to hear conversations like that. the trouble is this was the -- it certainly was for a long time maybe still is, the open door oval office where we have these reports of donald trump just waving all sorts of people in. there really isn't a gatekeeper. apparently john kelly tried to be a gate chemoer to keep people out, but you couldn't really do that. so there's a kind of atmosphere in there where it's very hard i think for people in that white house to keep track of who might be in the room at any given time. >> yes, and that's actually part of what anonymous writes about is that the president would fix his mind on something, often something he got from television, decide he was going to do it and then randomly the next white house aide who he came across would be the person who was in charge of receiving that briefing from the president and potentially acting on it or conveying a message to the white house press spokesperson that this should now be convey today the public as the new idea of the american government and the new action that the president was ordering being taken, that it was somewhat random, that it was whoever he lit upon near him would then be roped into whatever the crazy idea was. but it also very much tells you it could be complicated to figure out who the person was who was at all of these meetings who witnessed all of these things. and the process of elimination may not apply here if literal randos walking by are drafted into these conversation. >> this book comes into after bob woodward has taken us into similar scenes in his inside the trump white house book. how does this read compared to those? what is the difference when you're holding an account that is written by someone who is part of the team in that room? >> this -- i mean, clearly one of the things that is somewhat unique about this is that it's written from the perspective of a senior administration official and somebody who did not come into it disinclined towards president trump's agenda. so it's written from the point of view of somebody who isn't -- isn't there to be critical and isn't there to observe. it's from the point of view of somebody who's there to try to make government. so when i think you've had other authors characterize the feelings of their sources, even multiple sources in terms of how people around trump reacted to him or felt about his behavior, in this case you get in it in the first person, you also are privy to conversations according to anonymous that this author had with people in a similar role. other people in senior administration jobs who were pro-trump nevertheless driven to actual panic in terms of trying to stop him from doing what he wanted to do. so you're closer to the -- i guess i would say you're closer to the source, right, because this is the source wrying in his or her own terms. but it's not inconsistent with the portraits that we've had through, you know, daily newspaper reporting on the behavior of the president and from those books that you described. it is all of a piece. and there is news in this book which has started to be reported elsewhere. other people have started to see passages of the book. but the stuff i was able to read tonight i think gives you particularly a window into the upset of people otherwise inclined to support this president who were horrified by and full of regret for their own decision to be there. >> i think, rachel, for me the shocking part of tonight about hearing you read is not that i felt like i was learning something new about donald trump. the other accounts had all this kind of stuff in it. but it is yet another moment where you kind of sit there and you think about all of the people around donald trump who are going along with this including -- including the author of this piece. now, this author takes us into the interior dialogue of how difficult that is and maybe i should have resigned at charlottesville, maybe i should have done this. but is that -- is that a look inside hundreds of minds of republicans in the house of representatives and in the senate? or have they just stopped thinking about this? have they just gone along with this long enough that they are just now robotically going along with all of donald trump's stuff? >> it's a very good insight and a very good question. i mean, i think if we think the best of our fellow americans who have gone into public service and we imagine the best possible intensions for those whose hearts and minds we don't know ourselves, the best case scenario you can think in some of the worst moments like, you know, after charlottesville when he's praising the neo-nazi side and all of these things is that people maybe did think that they were the adult in the room and that by them being in that job things were going to be better because they were not that bad a person and so not quitting and not speaking out in order to hold their place in the administration or in republican politics was somehow going to benefit the country. clearly this anonymous author was in that position when this person wrote the op-ed last year, saying literally the adults are in the room. we want to reassure you, america, don't worry we're trying to thwart the worst stuff he wants to do. that is not the tone of this book. the tone of this book is people trying to thwart his will the administration is not enough. a, the best ones are gone aur already. and this is warning about danger to the country and the fact having some self-proclaimed adults in the room isn't enough. so if that is the best case scenario of how some people of conscience have been there supporting or sticking up for this president, this is an argument against that. >> a warning is the most kind of understated title that book could possibly have. thank you, rachel. >>> after the democrats' big win in kentucky this week, charlie cook willgyne us tonight with more good news for the democrats about swing states, the swing states of michigan, minnesota, pennsylvania and taking a look where donald trump is now sinking in the polls in those states and why he's sinking. and it is about the issues. it is about tariffs. it's about the issues that democrats are bringing to the campaign. there is surprisely stroingly s support in those states for progressive pra progressive policies like the green new deal. charlie cook will bring us all of that at the end of this hour. first, nbc news has confirmed that the house intelligence kmilty h committee has subpoenaed white house of chief of staff mick mulvaney tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. that deposition had been scheduled but the delivery of the subpoena tonight is a new development. we will have more on that in a moment. >>> donald trump wanted to hear the words "biden" and "clinton" from the president of ukraine. we know that now. he wanted to hear those words in a public announcement by president zelensky that ukraine was investigating biden and clinton. that is the under oath testimony of george kent that we will be hearing in public next week in the first televised hearings of the impeachment inquiry. the transcript of george kent's closed door deposition was released today. also today, the impeachment inquiry conducted its first closed door deposition of a member of the vice president's staff. jennifer williams is an visor to mike pence on europe and russia. none of her testimony has yet been released. george kent is the deputy assistant secretary of state for european and eurasian affairs. ukraine is in his jurisdiction, which gave george kent a close up view of what he said under oath was rudy giuliani's campaign of lies about ukraine -- a campaign that rudy giuliani says he conducted entirely on behalf of the president of the united states. george kent is one of the witnesses along with the acting ambassador to ukraine william taylor, whose testimony forced gordon sondland to change his under oath testimony to try to avoid perjury charges. gordon sondland, donald trump's completely inexperienced and incompetent ambassador to the european union added a 4-page supplement to the transcript of his deposition saying he now agrees with ambassador william taylor's testimony and george kent's testimony after reports of their testimony had helped him refresh his memory. george kent testified under oath that gordon sondland told him that donald trump, quote, wanted nothing less than president zelensky to go to a microphone and say investigations, biden and clinton. those were the magic words. those were the words donald trump had to hear before he would hand over military aid to ukraine. investigations, biden and clinton. ukraine's survival depended on those three words -- investigations, biden and clinton. president zelensky even though he was knew at his job realized how wrong it would be for him to say those words. president zelensky's staff made it very clear to george kent that they understood how wrong it would be for president zelensky to be forced to say those words and how wrong it would be for president zelensky to be forced to investigate american political rivals of the president of the united states. george kent was warned by ukrainian officials rudy giuliani was working in the shadows to try to control ukrainian policy. quote, and i said throw mud at whom? and he said a lot of people. i asked him whom and he said towards masha, towards you, towards others. question, masha is marie yovanovitch? cent -- former ambassador yovanovitch, yes. george kent provided hours of details about rudy giuliani's activities which george kent referred to repeatedly under oath, as quote, a continuation of his campaign of lies. rudy giuliani can sue george kent for those words, can sue him for defamation, for calling rudy giuliani a liar, conducting a campaign of lies. giuliani could see if and only if george kent is not telling the truth and the full truth about rudy giuliani. but rudy giuliani will not sue george kent. george kent's description of rudy giuliani's campaign of lies now lives in the congressional record forever. but rudy giuliani could find himself in a courtroom because of his campaign of lies. rudy giuliani is now the subject of a criminal investigation of his activities which has already resulted in the indictment of two associates of rudy giuliani. mr. giuliani spent the last few weeks searching desperately for a criminal defense lawyer to represent him and being repeatedly rejected by a number of high powered attorneys before finally landing on robert costello who served as an intern for rudy giuliani when rudy giuliani was the head of the u.s. attorneys office in new york, the same office that is currently investigating him. and of course the life lesson is always be nice to the interns. you never know when you're going to need them. leading off our discussion tonight is democratic eric swalwell of california. he attended george kent's deposition, and he attended jennifer williams' deposition today. congressman swalwell, thank you very much for joining us. really appreciate it. >> lawrence, as a former congressional intern, that advice is absolutely right. >> i knew that was coming. i knew that was coming. good word for the interns. jennifer williams testifying today, what can you tell us about her willingness to testify and what resistance was put up or not in getting her to testify. >> well, i'll address what rachel read earlier and you alluded to in the opening, the concerns expressed by anonymous. anonymous talks a lot about the adults in the room, and i would suggest the adults in the room respond to lawful subpoenas, and today jennifer williams was one of the adults in the room. she showed up, and that in and of itself is helpful. and every time a witness has shown up, we've learned new information to fill in the time line and understand who was a part of the defense dollars for dirt scheme, and who was doing honest foreign policy work on behalf of the united states. and so we filled that in. we're ready to move into these open hearings next week. and, you know, m

now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening, lawrence. >> you seem to have a little frog in your throat. >> instead of our usual evening chat, i'm not sure how many words i'm actually going to be able to speak tonight, so i'm going to have to save it for the tv show, the actual story

now it's time for lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrencequiz all the candidates about transcript i think you should quiz all the candidates about transcript entries in the hearings of the depositions. so here you are, you're in atlanta, you're memorizing everything every democratic candidate has said about every thing and every issue, right, for wednesday night. >> uh-huh. y

lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. and i was listening to every word of what you found

lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. and don't worry about monday.d you ever imagine that on the day roger stone's verdict would come in and it would come in guilty on all counts, that it would be in my hour, anyway, literally the last story i'm going to be able to get to? >> exactly. you have to like squeeze it in among everything else that not only happened over the course of the day but that's been happening over the course of the night. this is crazy. at least a two-way tie for the most oimportant story of the night on a day when the president tweeted his way into his own impeachment hearing with a tweet that some say might be worthy of its own article of impeachment.

lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. and don't worry about monday.not be found guilty again. and did you ever imagine that on the day roger stone's verdict would come in and it would come in guilty on all counts, that it would be in my hour, anyway, literally the last story i'm going to be able to get to? >> exactly. you have to like squeeze it in among everything else that not only happened over the course of today but happened over the course of tonight. this is crazy.

lawrence o'donnell." good evening, lawrence. >> i have a bit of a cold that you might be able to hear. >> you seem to have a little frog in your throat. >> instead of our usual evening chat, i'm not sure how many words i'm actually going to be able to speak tonight, so i'm going to have to save it for the tv show, the actual story stuff we have to do. we'll chat tomorrow night if i have any voice. >> i'll drop off some hot cider. >> thank you, rachel, thank you. >>> despite the cold, i am very excited about tonight's show, not just because of the impeachment ground we have to cover tonight, because at the end of this hour, i am going to be in superfan mode because we are going to be joined by this year's co-winner of the nobel prize in economics whose work is already in the center of the democratic presidential campaign, even if many of the candidates don't realize that. the nobel prize in economics was not established until 1969, and when i became an economics major in college in the 1970s, professors in the economics department at my college won the nobel prize three years in a row, and they were the biggest stars in the world to me. and they still are. and tonight you will meet the second woman in history to win the nobel prize in economics, and she will tell you what you need to know about the most important issues in the presidential campaign that you discuss every day already and that the candidates discuss every day. and you will be surprised which billionaire agrees with her, at least on some of her research. that is at the end of this hour and you don't want to miss that. >>> but we begin tonight, of course, with impeachment. the ukranians knew. the ukranians knew that donald trump was withholding military aid authorized by congress. and the ukrainians knew long before the first public report in "politico" in late august that that aid was being withheld. that was the single most important point in the transcript released today of laura cooper's deposition testimony to the impeachment investigation of donald j. trump. because that destroys the republican defense that donald trump couldn't possibly have committed extortion if ukraine did not know that donald trump was withholding the aid to ukraine. that is one of the republican talking points that they're planning to use in the public hearings, talking points that were obtained by "axios." we'll have more on that later. that particular defense is now gone because ukraine knew. laura katherine cooper is the deputy assistant secretary of defense to ukraine. military aid to ukraine was the most urgent issue to her, not the defense department. she knew the president was withholding military aid and began asking questions about it well before "politico" first reported it in late august. according to what she had been told by kurt volker, the trump special envoy to ukraine, and the acting ambassador to ukraine, william taylor. quote, i knew from my kurt volker conversation and also from sort of the alarm bells that were coming from ambassador taylor and his team that there were ukranians who knew about this. on july 26th, laura cooper found out that both military and humanitarian aid were being withheld from ukraine, and at her level, all of the governing professionals like herself were worried that it was illegal. quote, immediately deputies began to raise concerns about how this could be done in a legal fashion, cooper said. the comments in the room at the deputy's level reflected a sense that there was not an understanding of how this could legally play out. laura cooper testified that ukraine had met all of the requirements for u.s. aid before president trump put a hold on that aid in addition to her worries about the legality of the hold, laura cooper was worried about what it meant for ukraine's very survival. quote, if they are seen as weak and if they are seen as lacking the backing of the united states for their armed forces, it makes it much more difficult for them to negotiate a peace on terms that are good for ukraine. mick mulvaney was drawn deeper into the trump appeasement of russia in another deposition transcript released today of the testimony of katherine kroft, a special adviser to ukraine. she was advised that a piece of a hold was placed on ukraine. katherine kroft was told in a special budget by mick mulvaney was put on hold to ukraine because mick mulvaney expressed concerns that, quote, russia would react negatively. that is exactly why those missiles were authorized to be transferred to ukraine, so that the missiles would have a negative impact on russia's policy in the region. catherine croft testified that the office of the budget was to transfer aid to ukraine and that all the departments, including the security council, supported the transfer. mick mulvaney surrendered to all that pressure and ukraine finally received the missiles. christopher anderson's deposition was released today. christopher anderson, a service officer who had been involved in ukraine, said john bolton made a joke about every time ukraine is mentioned, giuliani pops up and that the president is listening to giuliani about ukraine. turns out that wasn't a joke. william taylor, quote, repeatedly expressed his concern that giuliani would make his job difficult. christopher anderson testified that he agreed, quote, that if giuliani's narrative took hold that the ukranian government was an enemy of the president, then it would be very hard to have high-level engagement, it would be harder for us to pressure russia to come back to the negotiating table in that case. as usual, the democrats issued highlights today of the hundreds of pages of transcripts that they released. those highlights identified by the democrats are all harmful to president trump. the republicans did not release a single page of highlights in any of today's depositions or any of the previous depositions because there are no highlights in these depositions that are helpful to donald trump's defense. republicans were in every one of these depositions. republicans in jordan were in each of the depositions he released today and he did not make one helpful point for donald trump in these depositions. there is no evidence in these depositions of why republicans decided to remove one of their members from the intelligence committee so they could give that seat to jim jordan so he would be the star inkwquisitor r the republicans this week. jim jordan was able to be in the depositions because those depositions allowed three committees to be present, including the oversight and reform committee, and jim jordan is already a member of that committee. but the public hearings will be for the house intelligence committee only and the republicans' big move, their big move for the defense of the president in the public hearings, was to bring in jim jordan on the same week that jim jordan was once again credibly accused of being aware of a team doctor sexually assaulting members of the ohio state wrestling team when jim jordan was a coach on that team. nbc reported last week that ia lawsuit filed on thursday said jim jordan saw the coach masturbate in front of him at a wrestling match, he reported that to jim jordan, who was the wrestling coach. yeah, that's strauss, jordan and th then-head coach russ hellickson replied, according to the affidavit. leading off our discussion tonight, john sarbanes of maryland who has attended many of these impeachment depositions. and ellen farkas, a former staff member of the foreign affairs committee. she is an nbc national security analyst. john sarbanes, i wanted to get your reaction to the depositions today, especially to the point that the ukranians knew this aid was being withheld and they knew it long before it became public. >> well, lawrence, thanks for having me on today. i think we were pretty confident just based on the overall testimony that was coming forward over the last few weeks that it would become clear that the ukranians were aware of this hold having been placed. now you have a direct corroborating testimony to that, and it puts a lie to the republican defense that somehow the quid pro quo wasn't there because there wasn't ukranian knowledge that there was a quid pro quo. they knew exactly what was being done to them. it was a breathtaking abuse of power on the part of the administration to tie this security assistance to a promise that they would investigate, the ukranians would investigate a political rival of the president. that's all becoming clear. it will be much more clear this week, i think, to the broad public when we get the testimony from these three diplomats. these are very professional people. the testimony they delivered in closed session was very compelling, and i think you'll see that will ha

lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. have, it could have theoretically can cut into "hth rachel maddow show".. you just let it roll, just like the hearing, roll right into overtime past 10:00 p.m.

lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. and i was listening to every word of what you found in that portion of the anonymous book, which is, what, two weeks away from being published, approximately? something like that. >> yeah. >> and does it give you any setting for these meetings? i mean we don't know in these discussions whether this is a budget discussion or whether it's a homeland security discussion. is that the way it reads that you can't quite fix that? >> well, it reads like somebody who's in direct contact with the president or somebody who was otherwise able to assert confidently that they can directly quote the president and describe not only his actions and his words but his demeanor. and what's described here is security stuff in part and the president's odd fixation on visual memes and visual cues even when he can't absorb anything with a comma in it. basically anything that has more than one concept in it that's delivered to him in prose at more than one time. >> in many other white houses there'd be ways of narrowing down the possibilities of who was likely to hear conversations like that. the trouble is this was the -- it certainly was for a long time maybe still is, the open door oval office where we have these reports of donald trump just waving all sorts of people in. there really isn't a gatekeeper. apparently john kelly tried to be a gatekeeper to keep people out, but you couldn't really do that. so there's a kind of atmosphere in there where it's very hard i think for people in that white house to keep track of who might be in the room at any given time. >> yes, and that's actually part of what anonymous writes about is that the president would fix his mind on something, often something he got from television, decide he was going to do it and then randomly the next white house aide who he came across would be the person who was in charge of receiving that briefing from the president and potentially acting on it or conveying a message to the white house press spokesperson that this should now be conveyed today the public as the new idea of the american government and the new action that the president was ordering being taken, that it was somewhat random, that it was whoever he lit upon who was near him would then be roped into whatever the crazy idea was. and that is interesting in terms of his behavior and the process in this white house. but it also very much tells you it could be complicated to figure out who the person was who was at all of these meetings who witnessed all of these things. and the process of elimination may not apply here if literal randos walking by are drafted into these conversation. >> this book comes into after michael wolff has taken us through similar scenes in the white house. bob woodward has taken us into similar scenes in his inside the trump white house book. how does this read compared to those? what is the difference when you're holding an account that is written by someone who is part of the team in that room? >> this -- i mean, clearly one of the things that is somewhat unique about this is that it's written from the perspective of a senior administration official and somebody who did not come into it disinclined towards president trump's agenda. so it's written from the point of view of somebody who isn't -- isn't there to be critical and isn't there to observe. it's from the point of view of somebody who's there to try to make government. so when i think you've had other authors characterize the feelings of their sources, even multiple sources in terms of how people around trump reacted to him or felt about his behavior, in this case you get in it in the first person, you also are privy to conversations according to anonymous that this author had with people in a similar role. other people in senior administration jobs who were pro-trump who were nevertheless driven to actual panic in terms of trying to stop him from doing what he wanted to do. so you're closer to the -- i mean, i guess i would say you're closes to the source, right, because this is the source writing in his or her own terms. but it's not inconsistent with the portraits that we've had through, you know, daily newspaper reporting on the behavior of the president and from those books that you described. it is all of a piece. and there is news in this book which has started to be reported elsewhere. other people have started to see passages of the book. but the stuff that i was able to read tonight i think gives you particularly a window into the upset among people otherwise inclined to support this president who were horrified by and full of regret for their own decision to be there. >> i think, rachel, for me the shocking part of tonight about hearing you read it is not that i felt like i was learning something new about donald trump. the other accounts had all this kind of stuff in it. but it is yet another moment where you kind of sit there and you think about all of the people around donald trump who are going along with this including -- including the author of this piece. now, this author takes us into the interior dialogue of how difficult that is and maybe i should have resigned at charlottesville, maybe i should have done this. but is that -- is that a look inside hundreds of minds of republicans in the house of representatives and in the senate? or have they just stopped thinking about this? have they just gone along with this long enough that they are just now robotically going along with all of donald trump's stuff? >> it's a very good insight and a very good question. i mean, i think that if we think the best of our fellow americans who have gone into public service and we imagine the best possible intensions for those whose hearts and minds we don't know ourselves, the best case scenario you can think in some of the worst moments like, you know, after charlottesville when he's praising the neo-nazi side and all of these things is that people maybe did think that they were the adult in the room and that by them being in that job things were going to be better because they were not that bad a person and they would stop things from going as bad as they could. and so not quitting and not speaking out in order to hold their place in the administration or in republican politics was somehow going to benefit the country. clearly this anonymous author was in that position when this person wrote the op-ed last year, saying literally the adults are in the room. we want to reassure you, america, don't worry we're trying to thwart the worst stuff he wants to do. that is not the tone of this book. the tone of this book is people trying to thwart his will the administration is not enough. a, the best ones are gone already. and, c, even the ones who are still there are not able to do enough to protect the country. and this is warning about danger to the country and the fact having some self-proclaimed adults in the room isn't enough. so if that is the best case scenario of how some people of conscience have been there supporting or sticking up for this president, this is an argument against that. >> it really -- a warning is the -- is the most kind of understated title that book could possibly have. thank you very much, rachel. really appreciate it. thank you. >> thanks a lot, lawrence. >>> after the democrats' big win in kentucky this week, charlie cook will join us tonight with more good news for the democrats about swing states, the swing states of michigan, minnesota, pennsylvania and wisconsin. those four states, charlie cook is taking a look at where donald trump is now sinking in the polls in those states and why he's sinking. and it is about the issues. it is about tariffs. it's about the issues that democrats are bringing to the campaign. there is surprisingly strong support in those states for progressive policies like the green new deal in charlie cook's new research. charlie cook will bring us all of that at the end of this hour. >>> but first, we have some breaking news, as rachel just mentioned. nbc news has confirmed that the house intelligence committee has subpoenaed white house of chief of staff mick mulvaney tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. that deposition had been scheduled but the delivery of the subpoena tonight is a new development. we will have

lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. and don't worry about monday. roger stone cannot be found guilty again. and did you ever imagine that on the day roger stone's verdict would come in and it would come in guilty on all counts, that it would be in my hour, anyway, literally the last story i'm going to be able to get to? >> exactly. you have to like squeeze it in among everything else that not only happened over the course of today but happened over the course of tonight. this is crazy. >> we have a two way tie, at least a two way tie for the most important story of the night. on the day the president tweeted his way into his own impeachment hearing with a tweet some are saying might be criminal and might be worthy of its own article of impeachment. we have harvard law professor lawrencebe here to talk about that one. we also have congressman eric swalwell racing toward us because we just got word that that closed-door deposition of david holmes just ended, ended like a minute, one minute ago. and congressman swalwell has been in it all the way, and that of course has just taken over the number one position of the way we will begin tonight with these new details about this phone call, cellphone call from a restaurant in ukraine overheard by david holmes who who knows who else. >> and -- i'm very excited to hear what congressman swalwell is able to tell you about the deposition. having access to the opening statement from that witness, i mean that witness is able to give us jaw dropping detail about that call which, again, puts the president right personally at the center of this scandal. but in addition to that the witness is giving us corroborating information and testimony about other elements of this scandal in terms of what he was able to see from the u.s. embassy

lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> i think you should quiz all the candidates about transcript i think you should quiz all the candidates about transcript entries in the hearings of the depositions. so here you are, you're in atlanta, you're memorizing everything every democratic candidate has said about every thing and every issue, right, for wednesday night. >> uh-huh. >> and you get hit a little around 8:00 with 403 pages of deposition transcript. i don't -- easy week, right, rachel? nice easy week. >> and the paul erickson plea stuff all came in today, and there's still kind of the roger stone stuff to digest, and there's the stuff that came in over the weekend, right? we got the williams and morrison stuff over the weekend, plus we got new public witnesses. this is drink from a fire hose time in american news, and it's our jobs to do it, and it's fine. >> and we have cardiologists on tv wondering why we haven't seen the president since saturday afternoon. but this is where we are. rachel, go back to your homework, get some rest. we're going to be watching wednesday night, and of course we'll be watching you tomorrow night, too. >> thanks, dear. >> thank you, rachel. >>> i remember it vividly. i've never seen anything like this. that's what david holmes said under oath on page 54 of his deposition transcript released tonight as the breaking news story of the night. it's about the incident that made david holmes an important witness in the impeachment investigation of donald trump. david holmes is an important witness who we did not even know existed at this time last week. the first public reference made to david holmes was in wednesday's hearing when ambassador william taylor shocked the hearing room and millions of viewers when he described a phone call from a restaurant in ukraine to president trump that david holmes had overheard. but ambassador taylor did not reveal then david holmes' name. he simply said it was a member of his staff who overheard the call. two days after ambassador taylor's testimony, david holmes was describing that phone call under oath in a closed-door deposition on friday. and on friday night, that became our breaking news, because we were able to report david holmes' version of the phone call from his written opening statement, which nbc news had obtained on friday. and now tonight we have the full transcript. the now famous phone call was made on a cell phone at a restaurant in kyiv by the trump ambassador to the european union, gordon sondland, after ambassador sondland met with ukraine's president zelensky. chairman adam schiff took david holmes through that phone call step by step. the chairman. now, you said the president's voice was loud and recognizable, and ambassador sondland held the phone away from his head, is that right? mr. holmes, yes, sir. he was sort of waiting for him to come on, and when he came on, he sort of winced and went like that a couple of times -- the first couple of exchanges he sort of winced. the chairman: and you heard him on the phone? greet the president and say he was calling from kyiv and then you could hear president trump wanting to clarify that ambassador sondland was, in fact, in ukraine? yeah. yes, you mean ukraine? yes. ukraine. the chairman: and then you said president zelensky on ambassador sondland went on to say that president zelensky loves your ass, meaning that he loves the president? mr. holmes, yes, sir. the chairman, and then you could hear president trump say, so he's going to do the investigation? mr. holmes, yes, sir. the chairman, and sondland replied, he's going to do it? mr. holmes, yes. he said, oh, yeah, he's going to do it. the chairman, and then he went on to say president zelensky will do anything you ask him to? mr. holmes, yes. the chairman, and dhoez are tth words you heard to the best of your recollection. >> yes, sir. >> it left an inprevention mpre, did it? mr. holmes, this was an extremely distinctive experience in my foreign service career. i've never seen anything like this, someone calling the president from a mobile phone at a restaurant and then having a conversation of this level of candor, colorful language. there is just so much about the call that was so remarkable that i remember it vividly. david holmes will testify to all of this in public on thursday morning in a week in which the house intelligence committee will hear from nine witnesses in morning and afternoon hearings. gordon sondland will testify the day before david holmes on wednesday morning. >>> leading off our discussion tonight is democratic congressman denny heck of washington. he is a member of the house intelligence committee. he attended david holmes' under oath deposition. also joining us, jonathan alter, columnist for "the daily beast" and msnbc political analyst covering his second impeachment. he was a younger man for that first one. >> that is correct. >> and norm ornstein, congressional historian at the american enterprise inter-stuut. and norm has watched all three of these impeachments that we've had from nixon forward. congressman heck, let me ask you about this deposition we're getting. it was dramatic enough on friday night when we read the opening statement in which he describes this phone call so clearly, but seeing the testimony that chairman schiff took him through and hearing his explanation of why he remembers it so vividly is all -- all the more powerful, and i couldn't find in the transcript, and correct me if i'm wrong, i could not find any republican members in any way shaking david holmes on anything about that phone call. >> not for one nanosecond, lawrence. >> what do you make of david holmes' general credibility about the range of his testimony? >> i thought he was an excellent witness. frankly, his revelation was jaw-dropping, namely that the president said words to the effect, so there is going to be an investigation. but there were a couple other things there that were pretty stunning, too, as we've talked about some, the fact we were having a conversation between ambassador sondland and president trump on the terrace of a restaurant out in the open in kyiv, ukraine with no doubt russian agents everywhere. but what i think was as offensive as anything was the callous disregard in which mr. holmes represented president trump's regard for ukraine. he said he didn't give an expletive, deleted, about it, that he cared about the big stuff. and mr. holmes said, there is big stuff going on in ukraine, like a war with russia. and ambassador sondland said, no, big stuff like getting his investigations in effect. he didn't care, he doesn't ca

>> the scientists as i understand it are from lawrence livermore national lab. or lawrencetional lab is more knowledgeable in hydraulic fracking and they were involved in the kenyan gas leak a few years ago. what subjects are they going to study? they are going to study primarily the migration and impacts of fracturing fluids into the fluids and probably also the potential for earthquakes to be caused by fractures. >> how many fewer fracking permits are we likely to see? >> roughly i think there were 500+ wells drilled last year. it is around that magnitude. that is about 75% or maybe 60% of the actual new well drilling as a component of fracturing? >> the ongoing fracking project here in california, the work can continue at those sights? >> no, as i understand it they will not issue a permit for new fracking? >> work has to this is not just permits? everything has to stop across the board? >> basically what has to happen is if you want to you are going to not be able to anymore. >> the endgame here ultimately is to try to phrase out the alliance? is that feasible? >> the r

melissa francis is here and lawrence jones, first time here lawrence, so exciting. it's great to see you. lisa booth fox news contributor is here too. who wants to kick off. >> i don't know how any of us can follow that. i mean. [inaudible] the only thing that i would add on the top is that we do have an election a year from now and when democrats come up to bat and they say did you fix healthcare and we say no we spent our time impeaching and they turned to president trump inside did you do everything you said you were going to do, what about the wall well he was trying not to get impeached. it plays a little differently. becomes the thing you can say when you're talking about why didn't things get done. everybody who has been in power has failed on healthcare so everyone carries that cross to the next election and democrats said we were voted in on healthcare. they love to say that. now they say they have put together bills that have died in the house. very inspirational. what are they gonna say. what can i do. insteainstead they spend their time on impeachment. >

lawrence tonight. so that will do it for me so you can move on to that. see you tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word" with ali velshi in for lawrence tonight. >>> i'm in for lawrence o'donnell tonight. schiff said its committee as rachel said, preparing to turn over its report on the impeachment investigation evidence to the house judiciary committee song after thanksgiving. democratic congresswoman zoe will join me shortly and billionaire michael bloomberg has officially entered the race for the democrat nomination in 2020 but his fund-raising strategy is already ruffling forgets among other democratic kids. will bloomberg's presence shake up the democratic race? charlie cook is here later with some strong thoughts on that. >>> but we begin tonight with breaking news. a federal judge issues a stinging rebuke to the trump administration's stonewalling of congress that could have ripple effects for other potential impeachment witnesses. tonight judge jackson ruled that former white house counsel, this man, don mcgahn, must testify in compliance with the congressional subpoena. in her ruling, judge jackson rejected the justice department's claim of unreviewable absolute testi

lawrence reunited with his family. watch. now, lawrence was convicted of murder after ordering his troops to fire on three people in afghanistan. the president personally called lieutenant lawrence after he was released and the young lieutenant was appreciative of the call. >> i'd like to say thanks to president trump. i had the opportunity to talk to him today on the phone with vice president pence. he sounds just like he sounds on tv on the phone. he's actually pretty funny too when you talk to him on the phone. it's very clear to me that vice president pence and president trump are very much in support of our military and i just -- i appreciate the whole country for everything that all of you have done. >> well, defense secretary mark esper and other senior military leaders have told the president that a presidential pardon could potentially damage the integrity of the military judicial system. >>> the white house budget official is on capitol hill as we speak here getting ready to testify in the impeachment inquiry. we're going to talk about the history of impeachment with author frank bowman who can really walk us through what to expect here and how significant it is. stay

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lawrence estuary. it's part of the st. lawrence drainage basin. if you are forming on the west side of the green mountains, you have pretty good reasons to want to be trading down to st. lawrencere is a division within the eastern vermont counties they are probably less taken with the idea of a union. at the end of the day, once you got the constitution in place the union was going to win out. we make a mistake if we assume that is the whole story. the presence of this british alternative has a huge impact in what goes on in these western territories. there is a question back there. >> when you talk about a commonwealth style, today is a commonwealth of nations, but i don't want to be anachronistically putting that back, is that the term they are using? how does that not anticipate the later developments? >> historians have used it. it shows up in historical literature, so i'm emboldened to use it because of other people's anachronisms. nothing like bring nothing like blaming someone else for your own anachronisms. i want to look at galloway, but it is not just galloway. i want to look at irish writers. one of the early interesting proponents is john carter right. he calls ame

lawrence karnow is here tracking the timing of is holiday storm lawrence when does it all start. >>certainly we've been monitoring the hall days to get a l of people traveling out there but at this point. >>well we've got to take anything we can get and it's nice to see the storm system just putting itself together right now located in the gulf of alaska, not well organized, but that's the nice thing about is storm system it's going to put itself together as it approacs the bay area's althat moisture is going to drop down in our direction and then here we go, here's the very latest on the forecast we'll take you throughti here as we head through the night i will start to see some increasing high clouds begin to move in late tonig early tomorrow mornin you'll notice for the commute we stay dry at least for the morning cmute. but then as we get into the middle of the day things begin to pick up the see the storm north making its way into the bay first just after 1 o'clockome of the showers beginning to move in and then begin to stretch acrs the bay area just some showers to begin with even toward the soutbain t aftnoon some scattered showers begin to pop up. but the main event looks like it will come through tomorrow evening, so wow that looks pretty rugged a tomorrow evening commute could be very roughutside some very heavy downpours you see those areas in red there that's some very heavy rainfall. the possibility of some thunderstorms as this comes through that will slowly dragged through through the evening hours getting down to san joseas we head toward 8 o'clock. so certainly the commute tomorrow night could be a big mess outside behind that we've got more scaered showers on and off throgh wednday. it a very cold air in factthis storm system colenough we could very well be talking about some snow sierrand snow in our local mountains too. >>thank you lawrence, and you can track the weather of course in your neigborhood anytime with the kron 4 app you'll find full forecast sec interactive radar weather alerts straight to your device you can download the kron 4 app today. >>arrested in the deadl halloween party shooting in orinda he aeared in court today dhammi code owns pleaded as guilty to 2 felonies one a felon in possession of a firearm and another is a felon inossession of ammunition. he was arrested last ursday police say the weapon was linked to other bay area shootings doan's has not been charged in connectn with t attack in orinda and is due back in curt on december 10th. >>well there are a lot of unanswed questions after the shooting deaths of an 11 year-old and a 14 year-old in union city that was over the weekd. police have been searching for a suspect and a motive as to why somebody would kill t young boys kron four's charles clifford has details. >>well here in union city on monday the instigation into saturday's shooting is ve

lawrence karnow... with what we can expect for the work week... lawrence (grant) the recent kincade fire in sonoma, napa and lake counties... combined with those pre-emptive power shutoffs... have created a lot of hardship for people in the north bay....and in many cases charitable organizations are helping out.(vicki) kron4's maureen kelly reports that at least one food bank says that an unexpected demand came as they get ready for their busiest season. (grant) s-f marin food bank is asking for the public's help in making sure no one goes hungry. roughly 1 in 5 people may be in need of their services. food bank workers serve nearly 150- thousand people per week. they say they expect to distribute an extra million pounds of food over the next two weeks. the food bank does accept food donations. they do accept cash or check donations. (vicki) an east bay city wants to build hundreds of new homes with a view. we first told you last night at ten -- hayward is offering 30- acres of land.(grant) but, the city needs developers to make it happen. kron 4's justine waldman has the call the city just put out for help. justine sot here in hayward the city the state is increasing its business tax rates on legal marijuana and it is struggling companies that have been pleading with the state to do just the opposite. hefty marijuana taxes that can be as high as 50 percent in some communities have been blamed for pushing shoppers into california's tax-free illegal market... which is said to be thriving. industry estimates say three dollars are spent in the illegal market for every one dollar in the legal one. the california cannabis industry association says its members are "stunned and outraged." higher tax rates eventually passed on to consumers will kick in january 1st. (grant) in the east bay- martinez police arrested 2 people who stole a car. it happened last night when they were alerted of a car traveling down alhambra avenue. officers found the thieves and the vehicle... police did a search and a large amount of methamphetami nes and two guns were found in their possession. both were arrested and booked into the county jail. no details have been released on the identity of the theives. (grant) also in the east bay- police officers in piedmont arrested 2 people who stole a car. it happened around 6 this morning off ramona avenue and moraga avenue. officers received an alert from their license plate recognition camera. they were able to locate the car and do a high risk stop. when searching the car they found a replica handgun. both occupants of the car were arrested booked into the county jail. (vicki) a hit list and 1-hundred rounds of ammunition was seized from a home.....as the los angeles county sheriff's department arrested a student they say was planning an attack on a middle school. the 13-year-old student hasn't been identified. students at animo mae jemison charter middle school told teachers and administrators they heard the boy threatening to shoot students and staff members. <"and teachers emailed the administration about concerns students. school officials sheriff's department immediately.">(vicki) a high-powered assault rifle was recovered from the suspects home. the los angeles county sheriff's office says the firearm that was found is unregistered, but does have a serial number. the boy was charged with criminal threats and other charges may be filed. (grant) president trump is practically daring democrats to try to impeach him -- declaring he welcomes a senate trial -- (vicki) and this is a process that could get underway by christmas. sara murray reports. (grant) sara murray reporting for us tonight -- now the white house legal team believes it is 100 percent in the president's interest to have this public trial in the senate. (vicki) this week-- the 2020 democratic presidential candidates took the stage for another debate. and among those who qualified this time around-- was tom steyer. inside bay area politics host catherine heenan got firsthand reaction from steyer after the debate. (vicki) you can watch more of catherine's interview with ááááá on inside bay area politics. it runs saturday and sunday morning at 11:05 on kronon. and this week will also air inside bay area poltics right here on kron-4... that's at 8:30 on sunday night. (grant) coming up -- a witness of the horrific stabbing on a bart train is breaking her silence. how describes what happened... (vicki) president trump changes his tune on how to end the vaping crisis. the new proposal he made during this roundtable today at the white house. (grant) and -- tesla unveiling the cybertruck... what elon musk is admitting he his team needs to improve. it takes a village to raise a child. to build a bridge. to throw a baseball... to throw yourself into the unknown. to lose fear, to create hope. we believe that it takes a village of over 200-thousand dedicated, passionate, driven medical and non-medical professionals to deliver on our belief in total health for all. we are kaiser permanente. thrive. after years of saying it was on its way, tesla has finally revealed it's electric pickup truck.(vicki) the cybertruck was unveiled at tesla's design studio in hawthorne... just outside los angeles ... tesla owner elon musk said the glass windows are shatterproof, but after a staffer threw a metal ball to prove it... the glass did appear to break... musk said the metal on this truck is the same metal used for spacex rockets -- he claims it is bulletproof. the base version of the truck will start at 39-thousand dollars and will go at least 250 miles on a single charge. and tonight we are learning elon musk is admitting that some improvements need to be made... he tweeted this video of another demonstration tonight... this is his staffer franzer throwing another ball at the window... (grant) frontier airlines say they accidentally sent an email notifying passengers that their flights were canceled. and it couldn't have come at a worse time -- with the busy thanksgiving travel week approaching. on thursday, travelers say they were sent an email saying "there has been a change to your upcoming flight.''the wording suggested a flight cancelation. the message directed travelers to call frontier's "rebooking hotline'' to speak with an agent. customers immediately started calling the customer service number, but some said they got no answer. the airline eventually sent a tweet apologizing (vicki) one of america's largest tuna brands has filed for bankruptcy. bumble bee foods announced that it is selling its assets to a taiwan-based company for 925-million dollars. the sale could be finalized within 60 to 90 days. the bankruptcy announcement comes more than two years after bumble bee foods pleaded guilty in a tuna price fixing scheme. bumble bee foods has been around for 120 years. it sells tuna, salmon, sardines, and other seafood items under several brands including bumble bee, brunswick, snow's, wild selections, and beach cliff. (grant) up next -- health officials are warning people in california to not eat lettuce... because of a new e coli outbreak. where the contaminated lettuce were grown. (vicki) plus -- an n-f-l player who is the center of a death investigation is finally speaking out tonight. what police found in his home after a search. (grant) plus, we speak with a woman who witnessed the deadly stabbing on bart... she says she did everything she could.. to save the victim. <"the attacker definitely 100% needs to take responsiblity for his actions and face consequences for it."> (grant) a bart passenger who witnessed the fatal stabbing of tyrone oliver williams ... is speaking to kron4 tonight ... after comforting williams in his final moments.(vicki) she tells kron4's michelle kingston she hopes he found some sort of comfort knowing that she was there, and that he did not die alone. (vicki) bart officials said earlier this week brim had walked away from a san leandro psychiatric facility prior to the stabbing. he was listed as an at risk missing person after leaving the facility. yesterday during his court appearance we learned he was previously charged just this past may with negligent discharge of a firearm, shooting from a car and possession of a concealed and loaded firearm. he's currently being held without bail at the santa rita jail. (grant) in fresno- a 15 thousand dollar reward is being offered for tips leading to the arrest of two suspects who fatally shot four men at a weekend party. on thursday- fresno police released photos of the four hmong (mong) american victims, who were shot sunday in a backyard while watching football. the victims are 23-year-old xy (sigh) lee, a popular singer in the community, and 40-year-old kalax ang thao, who is survived by two daughters and a pregnant wife. the other victims are 31- year-old phia (pia) vang and 38-year-old sushi chef kou xiong. the shooting occurred at one of the victim's homes- police say the gunmen entered through an unlocked gate. the reward is being offered by crime stoppers. (vicki) the washington redskins football player at the center of a death investigation is speaking out. (grant) police say a young woman was at "montae nicholson's" home when she overdosed last week. tim barber reports. montae (vicki) montae nicholson says he's had full support from the washington redskins organization. he says his teammates are also helping him cope. (grant) health advocates are encouraging president donald trump to move forward with a federal ban on thousands of flavors used in e- cigarettes. president trump met at the white house today with medical experts, health advocates and industry representatives to discuss the problem of underage vaping. electronic cigarette use by teenagers has surged, but federal authorities have not finalized a plan for regulating e-cigarettes. health and human services secretary alex azar calls regulating e-cigarettes "highly complex." an american cancer society official told the president the federal government should remove all flavors, including mint and menthol. <"the one thing i see, though, if you watch prohibition, you look at, you know, with the at cigarets, you look at all, if you don't give it to to come here illegally. they're going to make it. but instead of (inaudible) or juul or, you know, legitimate companies, good companies making something that's safe, they're selling stuff on a street corner. that could be instead of having a flavor that's at least safe, they're going to be having a flavor that's poison. that's a big problem."> (grant) some states begin to take action in response to growing concern about the health effects of vaping products. (grant)the c-d-c is asking the public to check their romaine lettuce. more than forty cases of e-coli have been tied to lettuce grown in california's salinas region. while stores are removing the tainted lettuce, a lot of it has already been sold. health officials are asking consumers to see if the packaging has the word salinas on the label in any form. almost 30 people have been hospitalized and five have kidney failure. e -coli infections can take up to ten days to develop. (vicki) in indonesia- one city is fighting internet addiction with baby chickens and gardening. it's called "chickenization"- and the program aims to help students spend less time on electronics and more time caring for their pets or plants. the city is giving children baby chicks and chili seeds to occupy their time. two thousand chicks and 1500 chili seeds are being provided to more than 10 schools. (lawrencearea weather) (glo) and ahead in sports, after suffering their worst loss in decades the other night, the warriors aiming to rebound in utah. mark has the highlights ... ♪ (vo) i know what you're thinking. electric, it's not for you. and, you're probably right. electric just doesn't have enough range. it will never survive the winter. charging stations? good luck finding one of those. so, maybe an electric car isn't for you after all. or, is it? ♪ there are those who will say thatoo fat.: too skinny. too hard. too soft. too old. too much. too unexpected. too limited. and to them we say too bad. because at kaiser permanente, we believe that everyone deserves the right to thrive. we'll open tonight with the warriors in utah-- draymond green out of the lineup again... so, golden state forced to roll out a roster of only 8-healthy players. --warriors- jazz...the final stop of a 4- game road trip. they lost by nearly 50-the other night... trying to put up a fight this time. --early on, alec

what's interesting, we saw, right after lawrence's case, a patrol outside of afghanistan, they knew lawrencey for murder and a motorcycle came towards their patrol. they chose not to engage. our warriors shoul have to dead. question whether or not they're going to go to leavenworth for pulling the trigger for doing the right thing at the right time. >> i realize there are so many complicated details. i'm sorry we can't get into more of these here. tonig david, rachel, thank you both very much for being here. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. ♪[music] >> we turn now to the democratic over the weekend, candidates still trying to break through in thcrowded field heade west. >> hello, nevada democrats! >> as impeachment news consumeso washington, a of force by the 2020 democratic candidates in nevada. >> this is a fight to end that national nightmare called donalm tr reporter: in las vegas sunday night, 14 of the 2020 candidatep made theirch to nevadans, who will vote third in the party's nominating contest. the lineup included fmer massachusetts governor deval patrick, who ente

they are first lieutenant clint lawrence, chief petty officer eddie gallagher. clint lawrence will be set free from fort leavenworth as soon as today, six years after being found guilty of first-degree murder. he was serving a 19 year sentence for ordering his soldiers to fire on and killed three men in afghanistan. nine members of his unit testified against him saying that the men were innocent. now to the former green berets and silver star recipient, major matt goldstein. he will have the murder charge he has been facing dropped. he admitted to fox news' bret baier that he killed a taliban bomb are suspected of killing several marines in a 2011 battle. goldstein has maintained he was justified in what he did and he explain why in a fox news documentary from 2016. take a listen. >> at the time, you think this is the guy? >> absolutely. >> the suspected bomb maker refused to speak to investigators because of strict rules of engagement. they were ordered to release him. >> there's limits on how long you can hold guys. >> that was with bret baier. also this, navy seal chief edd

lawrence estuary. it's part of the st. lawrence drainage basin. so that if you are farming on the west side of the green mountains, as the allens were, you actually had pretty good reasons to want to be trading down to st. lawrence. there actually is a division within vermont, the eastern vermont counties, that is the one in the connecticut valley, are probably less taken with the idea of a union. that is where walpole is, and walpole wants to punch king george in 1782. but at the end of the day, the union was -- once you got the constitution in place, the union was going to win out. but you know, i think that we make a mistake if we assume that is the whole story. the presence of this british alternative has a huge impact on what goes on in these western territories well into the 19th century. there is also one over here. and there is a question back there. >> when you talk about a commonwealth-style, obviously what comes to mind today is a commonwealth of nations, but i don't want to be anachronisticly putting that back. is that the term they are using? how does that not anticipate the later developments? dr. gould: that is a good question. historians have used it. so, it shows up in historical literature, and

coming out -- >> lawrence: the left is the only side that calls the other side racist when they show some support. >> dagen: and it was washington-washington, come on. good to see you, lawrenceight now harris faulkner. >> harris: breaking news this hour, we have just been told at any minute now house democrats are expected to release new details on closed-door testimony and the impeachment inquiry. we watch this rollout yesterday. and now there is more to come. this is "outnumbered overtime." i am harris faulkner. here it is, house committee set to release those transcripts from two key witnesses. e.u. ambassador gordon sondland and u.s. special envoy. the official who denied in text messages that there was a quid pro quo for military aid supporting the president, and meanwhile two more white house aides so far hav