lawrence livermore, lawrence berkeley. you have the accelerator lab. you also have the national ignition laboratory. so you have some very, very significant research and development programs going on here, not just in silicon valley, but also in other parts of the u.s. government. >> reporter: even though russia seems to be doing most damage by computer hacking recently, harp says there's no substitute for physical presence. >> there's nothing more valuable than establishing a personal relationship with someone because if you are conducting clandestine activities and it's possible that you're being surveilled by the u.s. government, it's a lot better for you to have word of mouth conversations than it is to have any kind of electronic signature on what you're doing. >> reporter: on this consulate facebook page, they call this whole thing unfriendly especially in light of the short amount of time they have been given to shut down. coming up at 6 p.m., we have our expert explaining why shutting this consulate could be a bad thing for u.s. intelligence gathering. live in san francisco, melissa caen, kp