lawrence mckung obtained a phd in sociology at queens university, belfast. he's also co-founder of the belfast film festival in the mid-1990s. lawrence mcyong, welcome to the show. so lawrence, tell us a bit about your child who grown up? well, i grew up outside rondlestown, um, which is about 20 minutes from here, very mixteria religion wise, and often is odd that i never see the conflict, here is about. religion, it's been politics, but religion has been used as the empire is used, tribal difference or skin color or whatever else, so it was very idelic sort of upbringing, um, i've written about it that when i was 10, learned to drive a tractor on the a farm that was next to us, devy warrick's farm, lovely neighbors, wonderful people, um, went a very small local school, farm fluck, which was delighted about years later to discover was actually from the original irish. was like wet tonland, but at the time is angle siz version just seemed bit absurd, you know, um, and up getting my 11 plus and move from this really too classroom school to uh sant maliky the l