lawrence newport in on all of this. just breeds. i mean, it's just a fact, isn't it, that certain breeds bred gentle, to breeds are bred to be gentle, to be to be family animals, be soft, to be family animals, certain through , you certain breeds are through, you know, several generations and deliver great breeding, become more aggressive for fighting or whatever it might be. there is a differential, isn't there? yes >> i mean, retrievers retrieve pointers point and fighting dogs fight. and these dogs were bred from a fight, winning dogs in the 70s and 80s and early 90s, actually. and over time, these dogs were then bred perhaps with larger crosses. we're not entirely sure. but if you look at their pedigrees, they are inbred over and over for larger and larger sizes. these dogs were fighting dogs bred to fight. so we shouldn't be surprised that that is what they do . do. >> mark, sorry, where do you get a dog like this? >> i mean, you just can't go down to the local pet shop and buy it. >> where do these dogs come from?