. >>> hi, my name is lawrence tam and i quit smoking cigarettes for about a year now and i have not felt any withdrawal that was stated earlier to the ucsf doctors. as a smoker for 14 years, i know the bad smells of traditional cigarettes. and to label me as a traditional smoker with those people, i get headaches. so, i just want to say -- go through a few marketing strategies [speaker not understood] earlier, how many alcohol companies such as budweiser, [speaker not understood] attractive women trying to sell their line to make sales and to have a good time. i just wanted to say that alcohol is a lot more accessible than electronic cigarettes. >> thank you. if there is anyone else that would like to speak that hasn't been called, please come forward now. we're going to probably close public comment in a minute. next speaker. >>> hi, my name is [speaker not understood] and i am here to oppose the ordinance against electronic cigarettes when it comes to categorizing them as tobacco products. trust, i know what tobacco is. i started smoking when i was 14. i was smoking two packs a week an