the book tells the story of the landmark gay rights case lawrence v. texas from the arrest of john lawrence and tyrone garner to justice kennedy's reading of the supreme court decision in 2003. the ruling made same-sex sexual activity legal in all states and territories to pave the wave for the same sex manage law. >> dale carpenter, you've written a fine book on the supreme court case warrants versus texas, a book that sort of tells the story from the beginning to the end. let me give you a big picture question at the end. why was the of lawrence case important? >> i would say this is probably one of the most important civil rights decisions or constitutional law in the delete key decisions in the past 50 years or so. and it's the most important decisions so far for the rights of gay men and lesbians. so, this is an opinion that is important to a great many people, and i think we will be long remembered in america. >> host: tell me why. there was one single wall that was in effect prior to lawrence and it changed the lot in a big way. tell me a little bit a

. >> the book tells the story of a landmark gay rights case lawrence v. texas from the arrest of john lawrence and tyrant garner to justice kennedy's reading of the supreme court decision in 2003. the ruling made same-sex sexual activity legal in all states and territories and paved the way for same-sex marriage laws. >> host: you've written a fine book on the supreme court case of lawrence versus texas, a book that tells the story from the beginning to the end. let me begin with at the end of why was the case important? >> i would say this is probably one of the most important civil rights decisions or constitutional law the individual decisions from the supreme court over the past 50 years or so and it's the most important decision so far for the rights of gay men and lesbians so this is an opinion that is important to a great many people and i think we will be long remembered in american constitutional history. there was one set of the law that was in effect prior to lawrence and changed all in a big way coming into the case where it was an afterthought 54 o

>> no, i mean, i don't -- they have upheld gay rights historically in lawrence v texas in the roamer that calculation, i mean we're not naive to think there isn't some politics involved, but we believe we'll be on the right side of this one. >> yes absolutely. we'll be right back with rob reiner, on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ is on the new news network. >>welcome to the war room. >>jennifer granholm joins current tv. a former two-term governor. >>make your voice heard. >>detremined to find solutions. >>that partnership in order to invest in our country is critical. >>driven to find the truth. >>how did romney get his groove back? >>fearless, independent and above all, politically direct. i don't just talk about politics, i've lived politics. >>beltway politics from inside the loop. >>bringing you exactly what's happening in politics today by people who know what they're talking about. >>d.c. columnist and four time emmy winner bill press joins current's morning news block. >>i know what i'm talking about and i love it and i try to bring that to the show. ♪ >> announcer: stephanie

every time we talk about this issue, whether it is the lawrence v. texase for the roemer case or the cases that do with it. when we litigated the case was litigated it as a fundamental right to marriage, and equal protection claim. what the ninth circuit did was make a relatively narrow decision, but also talked about all of the justifications that california had offered for its active discrimination against people on the basis of marriage. and essentially systematically found every single one of those justifications without any rational or reasonable basis. so while the decision was focus somewhat narrowly on a couple of supreme court opinions, happened to have been written by judge justice anthony kennedy, that in no way we believe undermines the extensive factual only record that was compiled in the district court and was formed the basis for the district court's 134 page opinions. what will happen from the ninth circuit, we don't know. right now there's a petition for every hearing pending. it's been sitting there for about six weeks. take 13 of the 25