when you that information, the man that emerges is not like the bin laden that emerges in lawrence wright -- wright's book or steve kohl's look as at someone who is mentally disturbed or hateful of our lifestyle, but rather a man who is very clear about what he believes in what he intends to do and most especially match his words with deeds, which is very unusual for any politician in this day and age. >> host: because of your background with the cia does this need to be clear to the cia? >> guest: oh yes, sir. everything i read where there's a zip or corn article or even if i was a poetry writer which i'm not, for the rest of my life it has to be cleared by the cia and this book was in fact reviewed twice, once before a senate to the publisher and then once after it was reviewed and we had made changes that the publisher wanted or the editor wanted. so the agency, i am very careful to try to respect my obligation to have that reviewed review before it's published. >> host: was anything taken out? >> guest: no, nothing was taken out. in fact i have worked with the agency now for six years

steve call, lawrence wright, etc.? >> i think many of the books are worthwhile, and what i try to do is take a different tactic than those books so i wouldn't be repeating what had been written already. steve's book is an excellent book i think. there are a number of very good books on the bin laden. jason burke wrote one, british journalist, and the problem i had with those books were the work primarily books that were based on what other people said about osama bin laden, not what he had said or done himself. i found over the past decade that whenever bin laden speaks he is often described as ranting and raving or issuing yet another diatribe so i thought i would take the primary sources based on interviews, statements and speeches he made and write a book based on what he said and see how it turns out. and i think very frankly that when you take the primary sources, which number in my archive, and i certainly don't have every one that's available, and i have over 800 pages -- when you take that information, the man

what do you think of those, lawrence wright, itself? >> guest: i think many of those books are very worthwhile, and what i tried to do is to take a different tack than those books so i wouldn't be repeating what had been written already. steve cole's book is an excellent book, i think. there are a number of very good books on bin laden, jason burke wrote one, a british journalist. and the problem i had with those books were they were primarily books that were based on what other people had said about osama bin laden. not what he had said or done himself. and i have found over the past decade that whenever bin laden speaks, he is very often described as ranting or raving or issuing yet another diatribe. and so i thought that i would take the primary sources based on interviews, statements and speeches he made and write a book based on what he said and see how it turned out. and i think, very frank hi, that -- frankly, that when you take the primary sources which number in my archive and can i certainly don't have every one that's availab

when you take that information, the man that emerges is not like the bin laden that emerges in lawrence wright's book or steve cole's book as sort of someone who is mentally disturbed or hateful of our lifestyle. but rather a man who is very clear about what he believes, what he intends to do it and most especially matches words with deeds, with which is very unusual for any politician in this day and age. because of your back or what the cia, the disney to be cleared to the cia? >> yes, sir. everything that i write, whether it's a book or an article or even if i was a poetry writer, which i am not, for the rest of my life it has to be cleared by the cia. and this book was, in fact, review twice. once before i sent to the publisher, and then once after it was reviewed and we have made changes that the publisher wanted, or the editor wanted. so the agency -- i'm very careful to try to respect my obligation to have that review before it's published. >> was anything taken out of? >> no, nothing was taken out. in fact, i have work with the agency now for six years since i retired, probably have publ

steve calls book, lawrence wright, ect.? on the phone: i think those books are very worthwhile. i tried to take a different path than those books as to not repeat what was written already. steve's book is excellent, i think. jason burke wrote one, a british journalist, and the problem i had with those books is they were primarily books that were based on what other people had said about bin laden, not what he had said or done himself, and i have found over the past decade whenever bin laden speaks, he's described as ranting or rifing or issuing another di tribe, so i thought i'd take sources based on speeches and interviews he made and write a book on what he said and see how it turned out, and i think frankly when you take the primary sources which number in my archive, and i'm certainly don't have every one that's available, and i have over 800 pages, when you take that information, the man that emerges is not like the bin laden that emerges is lawrence wright's book or steve cole's book as sort of someone who is mentally disturbed or hateful of our lifestyle, but rather a man

what do you think of those, lawrence wright, etc.? >> i think many of those books are worthwhile coming and what i try to do is take a different tactic than those books so i wouldn't be repeating what had been written already. steve's book is an excellent book i think. there are a number of very good books on bin laden. jason wrote one, a british journalist, and the problem i had with those books for they were primarily book store based on what other people had said about osama bin laden not what he had said or done himself, and and i felt over the past decade whenever obama speaks his very often described as randy or reading or issuing yet another diatribe. so i would take the primary sources based on interviews, statements and speeches he made and based on what he said he and see how it turned out. and i think very frankly that when you take the primary sources which number in my archive and i certainly don't have everyone that's available and i have over 800 pages. when you take that information the man that emerges is not like the