it's an attempt to write up for the layman. and interest in economics and some sort of awareness of economic thinking, but not a degree in economics or anything like that. a degree in economics probably will prevent you from understanding it. >> why do you say that? >> because economists have been ties. they don't understand information theory. economists, knowledge and power and i develop a new theory of economics based on the information theory and that is completely different from adam smith incentive theory. i don't think capitalism is really an incentive system. i think it's an information system and claude shannon negates in the information theory and defines information essentially as the prize and if everything i tell you today you already know, zero information has been transmitted. information is the unexpected bit and shannon was developing-- shannon named the bit in the bites and developed the theories that underlines the entire internet, the seven layers of the internet. from the physical layer, the actual machines

back with mike layman and craig becker, why is this such an attractive model for big enterprises?> i think there's different have been and industries in different places. many are legitimate. it's not always an attempt to avoid the obligations as an employer. what is important is there's not a binary subdivision. it's not necessarily that one entity is the employer and the other is not. let's look at the facts about who controls the aspect and it may be that there's more than one entity that does that. the board points out they are not altering the division. what you control, you have an obligation to bargain about. if mcdonald's controls some aspect. they should bargain with monday. if the operator controls other aspects. they should bargain about those. it takes the tacts and divides you have responsibilities for those that have responsibility. >> are we far from knowing what this will do and how it will play out? >> we are. the mcdonald's case has put the franchise industry in the soup on the issue. browny ferris is not a franchise, it shows ou the community is threatened. this

the not -- nazi occupation, at his parish in the neighborhood of -- john paul ii met a remarkable layman, a man in his late 40's, a tailored by trade, a man with a mystical intuition. this didn't seem to come from his family for his circumstances. it came from the finger of god laid upon his life. at the time when the german occupation had stripped the parish of its priest began forming young men into what he called living rosary groups, men who maintained the parish's youth ministry when that was a clandestine underground for been -- forbidden activity under the occupation. he introduced classic carmelite mysticism and st. john of the cross. from that encounter with john of the cross during the occupation of poland, he learned that the truth of history, the truth of the human condition is found on the cross. the cross is the center of the human story, jesus abandoned, dying, self surrender to the will of the father, vindicated in the radical self emptying on easter sunday by the resurrection. that is the truth of the human condition. therefore he learned, self giving, not self-assertion

and terrorism that is with us from 2001, will it be different from eventually electing a herbert laymanr a barack obama, in a way yet we can't figure out down the road? >> i think we're seeing people of all persuasions. i think we have people who are tied to the past and afraid of the future. i think the millennials who are moving into the position of responsibility and eventually majority in this country will change that. i don't think the time line will be different because of world affairs, i think people think act voat vote locally. less and less objective. >> doesn't that intend in a certain extent on things that we cabinet know yet, whether things calm down in north africa, if an eventually muslim candidate has a great grandparent or a grandparent that comes from one of these countries that is still a source of frustration for the united states. >> i agree, what happens happening in the middle east and north africa have an influence of how america views islam and muslims. that's why we have to do a better job as muslim-americans to explain what islam really teaches and to separate

from the local chase bank to einstein medical college, even layman high school. seven locations in all, all in the same general area. all with cooling towers testing positive for legionella. >> i never even heard of that. that's crazy. >> it makes you feel like you can't stay in your own neighborhood or go to a hospital in your own neighborhood. >> reporter: health officials have struggled to identify the source since last week. after several residents arrived in local emergency rooms and later tested positive for legionnaires' disease. nine remain hospitalized tonight. the youngest is 45. and each had an underlying medical condition. but health officials say each of the towers had been disinfected weeks ago which has the local community board chairman concerned. >> now you're talking about a month later and they're already infected. that's scary. >> reporter: health officials say residents should be vigilant and get treated if they develop symptoms. >> i pray we don't have another out break. what i tell the people of the bronx right now is this is nowhere near w

traced to building cooling towers. 15 towers have tested positive in morris park, including one at layman high school and six at einstein college. >> they have to do something. i mean, something should have been done. another person shouldn't have died. >> and this has now turned tragic. everyone's worst fears here in morris park. einstein college tell us they're working with the health department on those cooling towers to get them disinfected and treated. whatever they need, they tell us they're willing to do. and mayor deblasio reinforces to residents here in the bronx. if you think you need medical attention, don't waste time, just go get it. live in the morris park section of the bronx, john chandler, new 4z new york. >>> now to breaking news in the case of the mother tossing her new born daughter out of a seven-story window. we just learned the prosecutors are now reopening their investigation into the death of berry's son seven years ago. the 2-week-old boy was found dead in berry's basement in 2008. a medical examiner ruled the child died of sudden infant >>> new information tonig

is it the -- is it the layman's mentality? >> it shouldn't be resistance to women. be a resistance perhaps to an individual. it has nothing to do with men and women. there are going to be women that are more qualified than men. and men who are more qualified than women. i am not qualified. [ laughter ] the only thing we have in common with a woman that's qualified for the military is like my [ bleep ]. man breasts. >> larry: qualified or unqualified? >> it's the only thing i share in common. >> larry: how does this hit you? does this seem like we're making too much of this? >> honestly, it just feels like an age-old mentality that women have a place and should stay in it and that's taking care of the kids or cooking a good meal. we don't have that luxury anymore. i don't know what world people are living in when they still think like that. i mean, trust me, if my job just required me to be at home with my kids loving on them cooking a good meal, i would be in ef hadden. but today we're -- >> want to kill those kids sometimes. [ laughter ] >> but to buy the bacon, br

to the layman it's shocking, but mark says this is like the flea market of the cyber criminal underworldthere are higher levels of virtual shopping malls where you can buy much more powerful and expensive malware. >> as you move your way into the more effective cyber crime underground, they become increasingly picky about who they let into their networks. >> reporter: so there is sort of a hierarchy. >> yeah, definitely. >> reporter: the hot ticket item these days? point of sale malware that targets credit card swipers in stores. >> there has been a huge spike in new point of sale malware especially targeting u.s. retailers. >> reporter: that's because unlike europe and canada most u.s. retailers still haven't switched to new chip and pin technology. >> there's an increased pressure for the cyber criminals to maximize the fraud that they can conduct in this time period. >> reporter: how do they get in? mark says the newest malware can sneak in through an innocuous looking pdf or word document. >> i can send an e-mail to a company gilled as another company that they do business -- disguis

budget for more than two months. õhow is philly affected for the constituents of philadelphia in layman'sterms? >> the most talked about aspect of it is schools. the simple reality is that the schools will in fact not only in philadelphia but across the state run out of money sometime mid to late october if we don't get a state budget. we're obviously very concerned. the city has put forward approximately $100 million for this fiscal year. we're concerned, but what's not discussed at the level that probably needs to be is the providers because the state provides a lot of organizations that deliver services to regular constituents be it health care and all the other aspects of their situation, so we're very concerned about. >> you mentioned school.d about. let's talk about schools. you have said that you're concerned with a series of hires. you're suggesting that certain administrative hires may be at the expense of some students, the superintendent is suggesting that those are essential hires. what does the disagreement "tp)ise? >> well, it started during the course of the last budget hea

priest is the first hope in centuries who for many years intended to live his christian vocation as a layman, and who confesses in threshold and gifted mystery it was a wrestling match when he first felt the finger of god fallen his life, offering him the possibility of a priestly vocation. the pope's press spokesman for the past 17 years, a man who knows john paul ii very well, told me once when they were on vacation together in the dolomites, he said to the pope holy father, you have a priest's heart and a lay head. what did he say? his eyebrows went up for a minute but he didn't disagree. spoken to any of the pope's of the past 200 years about their early experience of the priesthood, what was it like , the pope in question would likely have talked about his experience teaching seminary or his years studying at the holy see's academia. john paul ii talks about what he environment, the circle of lay people with whom he formed intense friendships when he was there university .haplain some of these men and women are alive.er they open their lives in their memories to me, one of them gave me

dafny, you both have these studies that you're relying on on consolidation, can explain them in more layman's terms? maybe you want to start dr. ginsburg. maybe your microphone there. >> i would say certainly the literature on insurer consolidation is a very limited one, and i think professor dafny's study of the aetna prudential merger, which was 15 years ago and is well regarded, she explained how difficult it is to do these studies. the information on provider mergers is much clearer. >> and what does that show? >> that shows clearly hospital mergers leads to higher prices and without an impact on quality. this is a very extensive literature that's been synthesized by some very good people. nevertheless, i think that there are other dimensions that are quite relevant besides consolidation, et cetera, that either policies -- the policies can make some markets much more competitive. this is what has happened with the affordable care act. >> with the geographic disparities in the country a, that's certainly what we have in our state. that's what i was trying to get at too that could be a pote

i'm a layman, and i think there's a great deal of theology involved in your question, but i think what we're talking about here is, is life. and the importance and the sanctity of a human life. and you think of the miracle of how that is, comes about and is created. and then what it results in, that is, that is something that should be protected. i think there's a natural law about that. and i think the church has been very consistent about that, and not just the catholic church. many other, tgreat faiths of th world feel the same way. it's the value of a human life that has a soul in my opinion, and it's precious and needs to be protected. >> ambassador nicholson, why are these welcoming ceremonies important? significant? are they necessary? >> they're just great festive activities. they help, in our case, our nation, express itself through our present and through that pageantry, through the marine band. i can remember when pope benedict came to the white house. president and mrs. bush were there. they, they changed out the flowers in the rose garden and made the blooming flowers whit

i had a layman's knowledge of modern painting. he took me to museums, gave me books to read.cally educated me so he could talk to me. [laughter] that was true. charlie: he wanted to talk since somebody. philip: we were always good friends, but i got involved with his work up and until later. charlie: this is him talking about the importance of modern art and the influence. here it is. richard: the generation that comes after misinterprets the generation that comes before so it can either mock it or extend it. every generation challenges the efforts and procedures and communication of the generation before it. it is true and language. charlie: who challenged to you the most? richard: pollock. charlie: jackson pollock challenged you the most? richard: he broke the rules in a great way. the man produces great art. you can go and look and it is still breathtaking. i think art is something we need. we need that expression. that we ourselves cannot understand in ourselves. artists open the door to that. i think great poetry, music, great painting doesn't. it is what makes society r

i am a layman. i think there is a great deal of theology in your question, but i think what we're talking about here is life. the importance and the sanctity of a human life. think of the miracle of how that was -- how that comes about and was created, and then when it results in. that is something that should be protected. i think there is a natural law about that, and i think the church has been very consistent about that. not just the catholic church. many of the other great faiths of the world feel the same way. it is the value of a human life that has a soul, in my opinion, it is precious. it needs to be protected. nicholson, whyr are these welcoming ceremonies important, significant? are they necessary? guest: they are just great, festive activities, and they help -- in our case, our nation expressed itself through our president and the pageantry, the marine band. i can remember when pope benedict came to the white house, president and mrs. bush were there. they changed out the flowers in ther

but that finding is contested by two members of the 9/11 commission former naval secretary john laymanerry. an inquiry by congress points a finger at a saudi role. i have to qualify that statement. 28 pages of that congressional report have never been made public. bob graham the former florida governor was the chair of the senate intelligence committee and co-chair of the congressional inquiry into 9/11. he often publicly stated he believes there was a connection between 9/11 terrorists and saudi arabia. just yesterday on my sirius xm radio program he said this. >> i think the evidence that at least some of the hijackers received financial and other support from agent of saudi arabia is incontrovertible. my own suspicion is that when those materials are released it's going to be found that this -- there was a network of support for the 19 hijackers, which allowed this group of men, most of whom didn't speak english, most of whom had never been in the united states, and many of whom had very limited education to carry out the complicated plot that they did on 9/11. >> graham can't give

clinton on the legal issue, in layman's terms that's the destruction of evidence. committee members believe there are significant gaps in the paper trail that remain. even with the witness being questioned today, for example, in may when the benghazi e-mails were released. there were 130 references to sullivan, but now there are more than 1,300. it's hard to explain the discrepancy. the co-chair of the 2012 state department investigation admitted they never saw the clinton e-mails as part of their investigation. >> we have always said with respect to the investigation we did the job we worere asked to with the information we had h. we did not know the future would produce other results. >> it's hard to argue that investigation was complete because they did not review mrs. clinton's e-mail but the ambassador followed on with that question from fox and said they felt they did the best job they could with the facts they had. >> thank you. >>> illinois police offering a big reward now for the capture of three suspects in a fatal shooting of a police officer. >>> the su

no pope has been named after a layman. francis was a subversive. as soon as he diet, at the order splintered off into all kinds of ways of saying he meant--that couldn't be true. there were various observances, spiritualist franciscans and conventional ones. that was the thing the surprised me from the outset, the name. second where he lived. the fact that france is not living in the papal palace but -- this has been discussed in terms of mutt jury versus austerity but that is not what he emphasizes. he says it is not a matter of loneliness versus comfort police she says i cannot live alone. i must live my life with the others. popes really say they need to others. the in the average entry ritual of the palace dramatize the ruler's apartments, self-sufficiency. the rulers not like you or me. francis takes images by placing his own phone calls, eating at a common table, to say that he is like you and me. the cassette santa maria is a place of transience built in 1996 to harness cardinals when they need to elect a new pope. before that they slept on

that's the common layman's reaction. >> having spent ten years of my career in the government and whiteall documents belong to the government. you don't have private documents that you can take home. it belongs to the government. she clearly decided she was not going to play by the rules. >> that's true. >> and it goes back to the whitewater records that were lost for years and they find in the closet of the white house, and there's a long history of basically this behavior. >> and she is not the only secretary of state to have a private e-mail, there was colin powell. >> come on, not for everybody, though, and this is really hard to defend. >> a >>. >>> we want to talk about the rest of the field. bush taking several jabs the trump. is it enough to show he is not as weak as the donald says. our panel on that as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." like your natural teeth. but, when you eat tough food, the denture moves. oh no! this shouldn't happen. try fixodent plus adhesives. their superior hold helps your denture work more like natural teeth. and you can eat even tough food. f

that's the common layman's reaction. >> having spent ten years of my career in the government and whiteouse, all documents belong to the government. you don't have private documents that you can take home. it belongs to the government. she clearly decided she was not going to play by the rules. >> that's true. >> and it goes back to the whitewater records that were lost for years and they find in the closet of the white house, and there's a long history of basically this behavior. >> and she is not the only secretary of state to have a private e-mail, there was colin powell. >> come on, not for everybody, though, and this is really hard to defend. >> a >>. >>> we want to talk about the rest of the field. bush taking several jabs the trump. is it enough to show he is not as weak as theonald says. our panel on that as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." when cigarette cravings hit, all i can think about is getting relief. only nicorette mini has a patented fast-dissolving formula. it starts to relieve sudden cravings fast. i never know when i'll need relief. that's why i only choos

i had a layman's knowledge of modern paintings, but he took me to museums and gave me books to read andally educated me so he could talk to me. and we became very -- we were always good friends, but i got involved with his work up and through and until the time he left. >> rose: the importance of modern aired and the influence of pollack. richard sera. >> the jenks who comes after -- the generation mocks the generation who comes before so it can extend it. everyone examines the generation before. that's true in language also. >> rose: who challenges you? pollack. >> rose: jackson pollack challenged you the most? >> he broke all the rules in a great way. the man produced great art. you can look at it now. it's breath taking. we need that expression that we ourselves can't understand in ourselves. artists opened the door to that feeling. i think great poetry does it. i think great music does it. i think great painting and great sculpture does it. i think it's what makes society rich. >> amazing. >> rose: had the critics been good to you? >> i think they've been confused. >> rose: confused

higgins' prison job is as an inmate adviser, a sort of layman defense lawyer. >> therefore, inmate hall is being charged with dsa, drug screen alter. >> i did this for a reason, was because i'm coming up for parole here in less than three months, and i needed a way to delay that, to delay getting out. i'm not ready to get out. >> lieutenant vance, the d-board chairman, has a tendency to have an attitude of don't know, don't care, when it comes to your personal problems. all he really wants to address is what's in the write-up. >> ziggy faces several potential penalties for attempting to alter his drug screen, including time in the hole, a loss of his prison job, and even a judgment that can make his whole plan backfire, a transfer to another prison. >> that's one punishment i really don't look forward to is being transferred somewhere else. >> ziggy's reluctance to leave prison became all the more puzzling when we learned some of what he'd endured during his 30 plus years of incarceration. >> i was not born gay and every relationship i've had has been a forced type, a, well, this is wha

in layman's terms that means the boss is working you to death; right?se your hours went up and guess what? your wages went down and this is incredible because we're supposedly in a recovery. now, we already know the last six years we've seen in connection with go an average from 55, all of a to 52, $53,000. more importantly, though, what does it mean for politics? what does it mean with respect to winning the white house? because every day stuart varney wants to know which candidate is going to help economically and one. and tammy joins us fox news political contractor. and hillary cramer. and the average person watching this show doesn't need the government to tell them but it's always interesting that wages are down. they were down quarter over quarter. how can wages be going down and somehow we're in this amazing recovery and how could the democrats brag about that? >> well, there's the argument that the productivity is up and that means employers are able to increase wages. one there's unpredictably and uncertainty about the future because of obamac

in other words, this is kind of a layman's conversation for me, but what is it that we now believe causes cancer? i realize there are all kinds of outside factors, whether it's smoking or a lot of other things, but what is it hat happens within the biology of the body? >> well, to maintain the integrity of the body, cells have to know when they should divide or shouldn't divide and basically if they start dividing, you know, proliferating, making more cells, then you get a cancer. so -- >> rose: if they decide -- do they go wayward? >> sometimes they just grow more than they should. >> rose: an accelerated growth. >> and then they ecape where they normally should be and go to other parts of the body and metastasize and that's the really dangerous ones. >> rose: when they metastasize, do they simply go somewhere and multiply, or go somewhere and infect other cells, or what's the process? >> no, they go there and multiply. >> rose: the same bad cells. yeah. >> rose: just go all over the body and start multiplying and interrupting body functions. >> yeah, right. so there are ways of, in pers

. >> in layman's terms, circular transactions, because that is the concern here. >> the concern is definitely circular transactions. and you don't know how many or where. in other words, circular transactions are where you have a related company or somehow you have a company you are involved with them and money is coming in one way and going out the other. and we tried to contact the company about it. we sent them an e-mail and went through the investor portal, the way any investor would and they never got back to us. so our approach with the original report and after the company had the 20-f, which is the annual report, we went through it. maybe there could be answers in there. there were no answers, just more questions that we had. >> herb, you've been doing this kind of thing for a long time. does this remind you of another company and how they had circular transactions. i'm trying to get at -- i don't want to say that alibaba is doing x, y and z but -- >> look, melissa, i won't sit here and say -- look, we don't have enough information. and no investor -- no investor has enough informatio

>> look, i think, and again, i'm a layman, just like most people out there.ut when you do business with the devil, you're in deep trouble, and i think that iran is the devil, and i'm about to tell you something, this is one place i agree totally with trump when he said our people are stupid, and everybody else is pretty smart. if we didn't learn a lesson, and i listened to your earlier segment about north korea, and the deal with north korea, it's deja vu all over again as he said, our famous philosopher. this is the same thing. we're being fooled. we have people negotiating this deal that are in the negotiation of the north korea. we didn't learn our lesson. we didn't learn when you deal with tyrants that you end up at the short end, and especially if you deal with naive, innocent kind of people going into a meeting with murderers. and that's exactly what happened. so i think that the fact that we don't even know the facts of it. the fact this this did not go before congress and get a full vote by the full congress, it is a treaty as far as i'm concerned tha

just from a layman's perspective, i don't -- i also understand the sensitivity of not releasing all thenformation you have. but if you are having trouble six days later finding these guys, why not put an image out there? i'm remembering in the case of the escaped convicts in the prison in new york, you had their faces out there so everybody knew who they were looking for. what could the reason be to keep that under wrap ss? >> i don't think they have an image. where there has been video, it's less of an image and more of a time line to see where -- and following it backwards to see where they came from and then trying to identify who they are that way. whether or not there's an image, there may not be an image. >> right. i guess you are right. it depends on the angle of the camera, the light. arthur, authorities have insisted there's no safety risk in this area today. there are enough police officers out there so that people should be fine. they shouldn't be concerned. in light of -- as you look at this, it does look like they just don't know where they are. right? how can they say that

i am a layman. i think there is a great deal of theology in your question, but i think what we're talking about here is life. the importance and the sanctity of a human life. think of the miracle of how that was -- how that comes about and was created, and then when it results in. that is something that should be protected. i think there is a natural law about that, and i think the church has been very consistent about that. not just the catholic church. many of the other great faiths of the world feel the same way. it is the value of a human life that has a soul, in my opinion, it is precious. it needs to be protected. nicholson, whyr are these welcoming ceremonies important, significant? are they necessary? guest: they are just great, festive activities, and they help -- in our case, our nation expressed itself through our president and the pageantry, the marine band. i can remember when pope benedict came to the white house, president and mrs. bush were there. they changed out the flowers in ther

but from my reading of this as a layman, i instantly thought one thing we see across media is a verywhether it be a story. and then if something else is going on, not my problem. how much of that human nature is at play here? >> it is totally at play. and the media has silos. but also we increasingly have silos in terms of how we consume the media. one of the things that's happening is that we have all of this technology linking us inside the space that creates the illusion we're all connected. but when you choose who to follow say on twitter, when you choose what information to get, it is very easy to slide into social ghettos, to slide into an echo chamber and that creates tunnel vision and a kind of polarizati polarization. how many people out there who have actually owned 401(k)s with exposure to china, say, have ever actually read what the chinese media are saying? gone to china? put their mind into what's happening in china? we all live these lives with tunnel vision. and that is very dangerous. >> yes the tunnel vision i would say is brought forward by social media. i agree wi

. >> you will have to explain what that means to me in layman's terms. i am totale. it's my 4th year, and i'm due to send iran $1 billion for oil which i want. can i still send that oil? that's allowed? mr. szubin: no. sen. schumer: what does it mean it's sanctionable? is it in your view that the sections are severe enough that total will terminate the contract and risk being sued by iran? what does sanctionable mean in that situation. sec. szubin: it's exactly what the circumstances are right now and what the circumstances have been. there were a lot of pre-existing contracts that were 10 year, 20 year contracts when we put them into place. what companies saw is that they faced the threat of these powerful u.s. sanctions -- >> so another words, totale will not be able to do business in the u.s. if they continued in year 4, for instance. answer me that question. would they be able to do business in the u.s. in year 4 if they continued the contract? sec. szubin: totale could face a menu of choices. a menu of penalties under the iranian sanctions act, which could inclu

it is close a layman's moments. lehman did go bust. everyone got all their money back.all the feeds and everything else. it should not have been allowed to get into that amount of financial distress and should not have been allowed to go bust and did not react fast enough. my courage meant to ivan -- encouragement is talk to the endless, talk to media, talk to everyone about what is the profit -- positive future of glencore. value should lay out the proposition and make it clear what the trading is an as is. ever since people moved camels down the silk road there have been traders of commodity. someone had to stand behind the financing of it. it is a fundamental business. make that case. point out that the court has to move from a to b. .he coal has to go from places economic viable and activity. what we have got is maximum capacity around the state of the chinese economy. for all these economies. we have the fog surrounding the macro position, is china growing 7%? the clearly not. what will the demand for we have as be? confusion around the line of leverage that there

bill: peter, the layman will say, if he knows where all the bodies are buried, let's say, and he is note story dice. >> the story doesn't die. he is always out there as possible witness who could be given immunity by the fbi. who could be given immunity by the congress of the united states, to say, tell us everything you know, mr. pagliano. you were in the 2008 hillary clinton presidential campaign. you were brought to the state department. you allegedly went to the clinton home in 2012 after sandy, when the server wint down. what did you know, when did you know it? what did mrs. clinton tell you? what was the point of having this server? were you asked to do anything with regard to this data at anytime? this is a critical, critical witness who can put a lot of these pieces together that we don't know. bill: as you say the most significant legal step yet. so cheryl mills apparently is talking. why doesn't she take the fifth? >> i think she is experienced lawyer. i think she is a person who may be more capable of navigating the legal system. but everyone who goes forward from this point

. >> let's try to put this sort of in layman's context here. talk about the amount of debt that's been taken on versus what they're spending is kind of like a household where if you are going to repair or upgrade your home, you can either use cash or you can borrow money. borrowing money has to be paid back. many -- if i'm correct, these oil and gas companies were growing rapidly but they were borrowing to do so. >> that's correct. they borrowed -- as clearly we see the debt has increased. but another thing to keep in mind, it is okay to bother money when interest rates are very cheap. we actually took a look at yield spreads in the energy sector. yield spreads are about 10%. we are talking about a huge premium to borrow money right now. as the money dries up and these companies with distressed balance sheets look for new ways to raise money they might look at possibly acquisitions and companies with deeper pockets might look to acquire companies with weak balance sheets and the ability to withstand these lower oil prices for longer period of t

. >> you'll have to explain what that means to me in layman's terms. it's my fourth year and i am due to send iran a billion dollars for oil which i want. can i still send that oil? that's allowed? >> no. >> what does it mean it's sanctionable? is it your view that sanctions are severe enough that total will terminate the contract and risk being sued by rand? what to sanctionable mean in that situation? >> it's exactly what the circumstances are right now but the circumstances have been when you put these tough sanctions into place. there were lot of agreements and contracts they were 10 and 20 year contract and we put aside into place. let the companies as they face the threat of these powerful u.s. sanctions. >> in other words total wouldn't be able to do business in the united states if it continued in year four for instance. >> there are all sorts of -- >> would the totaled be able to do business in the united states in year four if they continue they contract? >> total could face a number of sanctions, a number of penalties under the iran sanction

>> if they do rule more broadly and want a number associated with critical mass, for the layman, how is that not -- does that not rub up against the quota aspect? >> so the way it could be -- the question is if the court tries to -- holds that universities have to articulate what critical mass means in a more want stative way rather than the fuzzy qualitative way, how does not not inexorably lead to a quota. and the way it could is for example you study educational policy et cetera, et cetera, you determine that -- i'm going to pick numbers out of a hat -- but 10% of minority population is the level where you get the educational benefits for diversity. that's where you need to be. okay so that's what you're shooting for. that doesn't mean you can then go say, okay, i'm going to let in 10% minorities and nothing more. not one more or less. that would be a quota. having 10% be your target and acting in a race-conscious but -- way that considers all factors wholistically and makes race a plus factor but not december positive, you could reconcile the two, it could it can be a target with

bosari, the layman who runs the papal visit and the others will be behind him. events, of course, the liturgy already in place at the cathedral. he'll be greeted as we said so often by archbishop chaput. >> wonderful. >> you heard a banned striking up, bishop shanahan. the former athlete, former sportscaster. the flag is flapping in the wind there. here, of course, the pope, the poly father arriving at philadelphia international, atlantic aviation. this has been long awaited. just about to pull up here and park. >> from all of these people, their exposure is going to be -- for all of those people [ inaudible ]. just because of the experience of it. the day i met -- the time i met, the moment i met. i had the opportunity to meet john paul ii three different times, pope benedict and most recently pope francis, all very, very different people but all life-changing experiences. >> you can hear bishop shanahan marching band in the background there as the plane makes its way closer. >> they were told a few weeks ago -- >> right. the band played in 1979 as well. >> rig

if they do rule more broadly and want a number associated with critical mass, for the layman, how isthat not rub up against the quota aspect? just don't want that. >> the way it could be, for example, the question is, if the court tries to set, holds that universities have to articulate what critical mass means in a more quantitative way, rather than sort of fuzzy qualitative way they have done thus far, how does it not inexorably lead to a quota? i think the way it could would be to say, for example you study educational policy, et cetera, et cetera, and you determine for example, i will pick numbers out of a hat, let's say 10% of minority population is sort of level where you get the educational benefits for diversity. that is what you really need to be. okay. so that's what you're shooting for. that doesn't mean that you can then go say, okay i will let in 10% minorities, nothing more. i will not let in one more or one less. that would be a quota. having 10% for your target, acting in a race conscious way, considers all factors holistically makes race a plus factor but not disposi

. >> you'll have to explain what that means to me in layman's terms. it's my fourth year and i am due to send iran a billion dollars for oil which i want. can i still send that oil? that's allowed? >> no. >> what does it mean it's sanctionable? is it your view that sanctions are severe enough that total will terminate the contract and risk being sued by rand? what to sanctionable mean in that situation? >> it's exactly what the circumstances are right now but the circumstances have been when you put these tough sanctions into place. there were lot of agreements and contracts they were 10 and 20 year contract and we put aside into place. let the companies as they face the threat of these powerful u.s. sanctions. >> in other words total wouldn't be able to do business in the united states if it continued in year four for instance. >> there are all sorts of -- >> would the totaled be able to do business in the united states in year four if they continue they contract? >> total could face a number of sanctions, a number of penalties under the iran sanction