>> host: how as a layperson know that? >> guest: the road has changed with the internet there are signs like pollster.com that analyze the different surveys. there is much more accountability for pulling people looking over their shoulders. you have to pay attention to the internet surveys or voice recognition, a real person, there are different ways. but in the campaign which is what i talk about it is different, not just the numbers the least interesting thing i would find is who that is ahead. the most important thing is what is the fight about? what is the election going to be about? i was trained as a in the academic one book was written in the argument was if you understand the fight you know, who will win and who gets drawn and, what is the crowd that watches the fight? what is the fight about? we had the 1992 elections with bill clinton and george bush the father 30 we're trying to make the case you could not trust the inexperienced failed governor from a small stake revenue said what is this election about? it is

and then the second is, to know as a layperson, if you were on some medication years ago and you haven't taken it in a long time, it would be easy to forget that. or perceive that you don't even remember what it was or you don't note it or you forgot it. and, yet, we also know there are cases of fraud. and those people that were like you with individual policies, paying more because people were deliberately trying to get on the roles and the files we got indicate that. how do we get a balance here where people like you and your loved ones aren't rescinded from coverage and, yet, find this balance? it seems to get back to the initial application process and the review of those applications and a better understanding for those of us who may be signing up for that type of health insurance 37 i'm curious, how would you fix at least that part of the process? >> anyone want to tackle that? >> i would just state that the insurance company at the time you apply for insurance, and you disclose your doctors, they have -- they should be the one that is have to do the investigations. if they don't d

. >> host: how can a layperson know that? >> guest: right now the world has changed.ow with the internet, you know, there's sites like pollster.com that evaluate the different surveys so we're in a different world. there's much more accountability for people who are looking over their shoulders. and you have to pay attention whether internet survey or whether it's voice recognition or a real person. there's different ways of doing surveys. but in campaigns and what i talk about here is campaigns, polling is a little different. it's not just the numbers. the least interesting thing i would find, you know, who's ahead in the race. the most important thing to find out is what's the fight about? what's the election going to be about? what's at issue? you know, i was trained as an academic. you know, one of the people i read in my academic, but if you understand what the fight's about you know, you know -- you know who's going to win, you know, who gets -- who gets drawn in, you know, what the crowd that goes, you know, that watches the fight. what's the fight about? well,

and then the second is to know as a layperson if you are on some medication years ago and you haven't been taking it, it would be easy to forget that i would think or perceive that you know longer have whatever that was when you took the medication for it, so you don't know it or your faux got it. and yet, we also know there are cases of fraud and those people that bearlike kiewit individual policies, paying more because people were deliberately trying to get on the roles in our files that we got from the companies indicate that too so i'm trying to figure out how do we get a pellets were people like you and your loved ones are not rescinded from coverage and yet find this balance. it seems to get back to the initial application process, the re queue of those applications and a better understanding for those of us who may be signing up for that type of health insurance so i am curious, how would you fix at least that part of the process? anyone want to tackle that? >> i wish to state that the insurance company at the time you apply for insurance and you disclosed your doctors, they sh