when i worked at lazar ferrer, for instance, people like steve ratner wanted to be treasury secretarythey never got there, steve ratner was the car czar, but, you know, there was this mentality that, yes, public service is important, but, you know, until we get sort of tapped on the shoulder for the right job, we don't want to leave all the millions that we'd have to give up. but at goldman they force people out. so you get your time in the sun, you make your pile, and then you get shown the door more or less. either you're made into a limited partner or, actually, relieved of your duties. so a lot of people who are quite young and energetic, you know, maybe in their late 40s, early 50s, want to, you know, quote, give something back. so what better way to do that than come to washington. especially if president clinton or president bush is going to tap you on the shoulder and say, you know, will you be my treasury secretary? so that, you know, there's a long tradition of that at goldman, and, you know, again, unfortunately, i think there's now a chill of having people of goldman comin