she has a whole other side that's like swiftie lazar. trades and knows exactly where we are in the rankings. >> jimmy: oh, really? there are rankings? >> like a cutthroat hollywood executive, that's her alter ego. so he called her to tell her i've been nominated. and she's like, who else is in the category? she would never say this to me. and so he names the people. it was like, you know -- lisa kudrow, doris roberts, jennifer aniston. and my mom goes, oh, no, no, not aniston! [ laughter ] so my mom apparently didn't think i had a snowball's chance in hell of winning. >> jimmy: uh-huh. and? >> when she heard about jennifer aniston. >> jimmy: yeah, well. maybe she just like preferred "friends." that's probably -- >> she did like it better, yeah, that's true, yeah. >> jimmy: we're going to take a break. when we come back, megan mullally is with us. "will & grace" returns october 4th on nbc. hey, this one looks like a chameleon. hmm, i don't see it. oh, it's on! ( ♪ ) oh, now i see it. stylish. i love you iphone x. oh, now i see it. (sprint