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. >> on that motion to adapt the draft finding commissioner president lazarus commissioner honda. >> and commissioner wilson thank you. >> the vote is 4 to zero the finding are adapted and the 10 day rehearing request period is now closed. >> we'll return to item 7 which has been called appeal i believe is there anyone on behalf of the appellant? okay. seeing none then we'll hear from the permit holder >> good evening again commissioners greg on behalf of the permit holder in defines to the commissioners time and commissioner honda's schedule i'll be brief and glad to answer questions should the commission have any this is a structural mraerntd that is adjacent to the appellants property line he has a relationship wall and concerned that the planter and the trees in it would cause lateral loading on the wall the permits holders family purchased this property in 2007 and those planters were constructed probably a decade to two decades prior to the purchase by the kc family the bit of a misnomer it says retrofit planters the plan to remove the planters and sing it to bedrock and suppor
. >> on that motion to adapt the draft finding commissioner president lazarus commissioner honda. >> and commissioner wilson thank you. >> the vote is 4 to zero the finding are adapted and the 10 day rehearing request period is now closed. >> we'll return to item 7 which has been called appeal i believe is there anyone on behalf of the appellant? okay. seeing none then we'll hear from the permit holder >> good evening again commissioners greg on behalf of the...
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>> good evening, president lazarus, and commissioners. i am david silver man and i am working with garian on this matter, he has spent more than $8,000 to damen the noise by wrapping it with model lag, piping which is a noise baffling material which was recommended to him by the department of public health. he has taken all reasonable and appropriate steps both to comply with the law, and to be expressed the concerns or expressed by the appellant. no one including the consultant has claimed that there is a better material to use than the model lag 10 pipe duct lagging and while many people prefer to live in a silent space which possible, the built up environment does not provide such a luxury, all city dwellers live with some measure of background noise he is in compliance with all applicable laws as confirmed by the city attorney and the department of public health. mr. darin has filled all of the duties and obligations both to the city and to the appellant. it is possible that the appellant is more sensitive to noise than the average pe
>> good evening, president lazarus, and commissioners. i am david silver man and i am working with garian on this matter, he has spent more than $8,000 to damen the noise by wrapping it with model lag, piping which is a noise baffling material which was recommended to him by the department of public health. he has taken all reasonable and appropriate steps both to comply with the law, and to be expressed the concerns or expressed by the appellant. no one including the consultant has...
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bruce and then jim lazarus. if there is anybody else, there are blue cards in the front or you can just speak after we call all of the names. >> good afternoon, chair wiener, supervisors kim and cohen. my name is bruce agate . this is critical as we are in the process of making decisions for multi-generational transportation infrastructure investment. between the transbay transit center. dtx and others to maximize passenger capacity and operational flexibility. let's call these are foundational principles. uniform platform height boarding levels gives us ability to achieve this principle and this flexibility, allows you to adjust service plans daily, hourly, weekly, et cetera between the two systems to ensure that you get the most value out of both. is it possible? what is best option? i don't know the specific answer. however, as we heard today, there are examples either in north america or other parts of the world where similar issues have been addressed and we need to understand what it takes to get us there.
bruce and then jim lazarus. if there is anybody else, there are blue cards in the front or you can just speak after we call all of the names. >> good afternoon, chair wiener, supervisors kim and cohen. my name is bruce agate . this is critical as we are in the process of making decisions for multi-generational transportation infrastructure investment. between the transbay transit center. dtx and others to maximize passenger capacity and operational flexibility. let's call these are...
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we'll hear from the permit holder. >> commissioner president lazarus we have some letters of support i wonder if we might pass them out fine. >> so the letters are they from members of the public and, yes also an inspection report and that was not submitted before because a it was on a monday that was the first time it was not a city inspector a private contractor and if you wish to report on it that's fine hang onto those for now you can include those in your testimony. >> if you want to reference that in in your testimony it's a fine. >> good evening david silicon valley on behalf of the surveillance holder the owner of the rooster tail in difference to the comments of the commissioners we made a financial offer to ms. huh-uh motto pay for the noise litigation appropriate that offer unfortunately was rejected a couple of things to report we didn't have a professional h b.a. c ventilation contractor inspect the site on monday he wrote a report i won't go through the entire report but i'll read the conclusion he wrote in my professional opinion with over a decade of experience of res
we'll hear from the permit holder. >> commissioner president lazarus we have some letters of support i wonder if we might pass them out fine. >> so the letters are they from members of the public and, yes also an inspection report and that was not submitted before because a it was on a monday that was the first time it was not a city inspector a private contractor and if you wish to report on it that's fine hang onto those for now you can include those in your testimony. >> if...
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. >> president lazarus, would you like us to call the roll on your motion? >> yes. >> no other questions or comments? >> sorry. >> that is fine. >> lazarus, we have the healthy and the what was the second part? >> dpw is committed to maintaining it in the sidewalk. >> okay. we have a motion from the president to up hold this denial, on the basis that the tree is healthy and on the further basis that the dpw is committed to maintaining both the tree and the sidewalk. on that motion, to up hold the denial, commissioner fung? >> no. >> and commissioner honda? >> no. >> okay. >> commissioner wilson? >> aye. >> thank you. >> the vote is 2-2, and under the city charter with our vacancy, three votes are needed to over turn any departmental action. as such, this motion fails, however, absent another motion, the denial would be upheld by default. okay, no other motion. >> okay, the denial is upheld by default. >> thank you. >> and so then we will move on president, lazarus? >> yes. >> item 6 has been reschedule and item seven and i will call item 8 which is appeal nu
. >> president lazarus, would you like us to call the roll on your motion? >> yes. >> no other questions or comments? >> sorry. >> that is fine. >> lazarus, we have the healthy and the what was the second part? >> dpw is committed to maintaining it in the sidewalk. >> okay. we have a motion from the president to up hold this denial, on the basis that the tree is healthy and on the further basis that the dpw is committed to maintaining both the...
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. >> on that motion commissioner president lazarus commissioner honda commissioner wilson thank you. the vote is 4 to zero this permit is upheld open that basis. >> i'm going to recuse myself. >> we're going to call the last item lisa versus the department of building inspection protesting the issuance on october 30th to frank and wife notice to violation add two new rear view windows and replacing deck as required i mean, i'll start with the appellant. >> good evening commissioner president lazarus and commissioners, thank you for your consideration of that appeal i am lisa i live next door to webster in the machinery we've owned our owning home for 10 years and condominium to raising our kids our kids attend public schools in the marina and my husband is not here he's with our kids 3 kids our family calibers about the marina i feel like the planning department and the building inspection have everything they need to make a proper determination in summary the work on webster street shouldn't be allowed it was not properly permitted and it attempts to go beyond who was approved in th
. >> on that motion commissioner president lazarus commissioner honda commissioner wilson thank you. the vote is 4 to zero this permit is upheld open that basis. >> i'm going to recuse myself. >> we're going to call the last item lisa versus the department of building inspection protesting the issuance on october 30th to frank and wife notice to violation add two new rear view windows and replacing deck as required i mean, i'll start with the appellant. >> good evening...
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. >> good evening president lazarus and commissioners, corey tigue for planning department. we feel like this project was approved appropriately by planning department. sounds like the proposed changes between the two parties would, if anything, result in a smaller project overall so wouldn't trigger any additional notification requirements and i don't think we have any issues for the compromise that's been reached. i'm available for any questions you may have. >> any public comment? seeing none, then commissioners, the matter is submitted. mr. duffy, commissioners are you willing to entertain him again? >> yes. >> as long as he entertains that. >> sorry commissioners for the time. just one point of clarification, i heard mr. calvin there saying that the -- it would take the walls down prior to any -- the addendum being issued. you can't start the work until the addenda has to be issued before you take the walls down so we won't know what the foundation is until the a ddenda is issued. >> well you can have multiple addenda. >> they could do something but the structure is usu
. >> good evening president lazarus and commissioners, corey tigue for planning department. we feel like this project was approved appropriately by planning department. sounds like the proposed changes between the two parties would, if anything, result in a smaller project overall so wouldn't trigger any additional notification requirements and i don't think we have any issues for the compromise that's been reached. i'm available for any questions you may have. >> any public...
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the san francisco board of appeals the presiding officer is board president commissioner president lazarus and joined by commissioner fung and commissioner honda commissioner wilson will be joining us later there is one absent on the board the board may overrule the board on appraisal to my right to deputy city attorney that be provide advise and mr. pacheco and i'm again and again the board director we're joined by the board at the taebl tangle it the zoning administrator he is representing planning commission and participating and sitting to his right is the deputy city attorney representing the department of public health and i saw mr. duffy representing the be department of building inspection mr. pacheco go over the guidelines and conduct the swearing in process. >> the board asks you turn off outline electronic device and the boards rules of presentation are appellants and permit holders each have 7 minutes to present their cases and 3 minutes for rebuttals people affiliated with the parties must conclude their comments within 7 minutes arrest to assist the board in the i cannot prep
the san francisco board of appeals the presiding officer is board president commissioner president lazarus and joined by commissioner fung and commissioner honda commissioner wilson will be joining us later there is one absent on the board the board may overrule the board on appraisal to my right to deputy city attorney that be provide advise and mr. pacheco and i'm again and again the board director we're joined by the board at the taebl tangle it the zoning administrator he is representing...
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vacancy this permit a rerecognized with that finding there's no more business commissioner president lazarus. >> we're adjourned (clapping) >> . >> (speaking foreign language.) >> good afternoon, everyone this is feeling so good to stand before you this announcement is tremendous we'll been working hard in the last year and a half this is a big day you've had personal and long connections to the building on 66 raymond this story of this building has been a rofks story of tragedy and of loss but today, we come to celebrate victory over one hundred years this building behind me has been in the community a tremendous and the that served generation many of the folks that participate in the community at it have you ever seen venue i want to acknowledge the long-standing community members thank you for being here and many of you know, we lost this exit to foreclosure we've been through many, many community meetings and many hours discussing the future of 56 raymond to today it is with great pleasure and honor i announce the city of san francisco habitation acquired the ownership of this property 6
vacancy this permit a rerecognized with that finding there's no more business commissioner president lazarus. >> we're adjourned (clapping) >> . >> (speaking foreign language.) >> good afternoon, everyone this is feeling so good to stand before you this announcement is tremendous we'll been working hard in the last year and a half this is a big day you've had personal and long connections to the building on 66 raymond this story of this building has been a rofks story of...
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you have seven minutes. >> good evening president lazarus, members of the board. steve williams. i can true hi
you have seven minutes. >> good evening president lazarus, members of the board. steve williams. i can true hi
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. >> on the motion to continue to january 21st, 2015, president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner honda. >> itch. >> commissioner wilson. >> i. >> the vote is four, zero. this is continued to january 21, 015. >> our last item, appeal number [inaudible] department of building inspection. property's at 41 lake street protesting the petition to remove existing foundation at west property line and construct new compliant foundation, new anchor bolts at new foundation and wall above. >> we need to hang on one minute. >> sorry. we'll wait until our room clears, the commissioner returns and we'll begin with the appellant. >> i think i can move this along about keeping the eye on the ball and getting this building fixed. the issues on both sides of the board. there's a foundation problem on the west side of the building caused by the neighborhood. the current set of drawings are addressing that. problem with the current permit though is when this building was condoed, the lot that the building sits on, the land lot goes away and the building department creates air right lots. the current buildin
. >> on the motion to continue to january 21st, 2015, president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner honda. >> itch. >> commissioner wilson. >> i. >> the vote is four, zero. this is continued to january 21, 015. >> our last item, appeal number [inaudible] department of building inspection. property's at 41 lake street protesting the petition to remove existing foundation at west property line and construct new compliant foundation, new anchor bolts at...
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>> i. >> president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner wilson. >> i. >> thank you. vote is four to zero, those minutes are adopted. >> item 4 is appeal 14-1072. the property is at 2707 21st street for a tree removal permit and we will start with the appellant. you have seven minutes to present your case. >> good evening and happy holidays. nice pronunciation of my name, by the way. my name is kevin mcroy, my wife and i own the house seeking to remove four illegal placed trees in front of our house. they're illegal planting and our neighbors' wishes. we bought our house in october 2013 for a home for a small family. we had a daughter 1 month old at the time. we planned to live in this house through her childhood and beyond. with our dream house we inherited four palm trees planted in in one tree basin in the #150id walk out front. these palms present numerous challenges to pedestrians and drivers. overhead please. the small mediterranean palm is growing diagonally over the sidewalk. it's in violation of dpw's own codes which calls for a 8 foot wide sidewalk, which in
>> i. >> president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner wilson. >> i. >> thank you. vote is four to zero, those minutes are adopted. >> item 4 is appeal 14-1072. the property is at 2707 21st street for a tree removal permit and we will start with the appellant. you have seven minutes to present your case. >> good evening and happy holidays. nice pronunciation of my name, by the way. my name is kevin mcroy, my wife and i own the house seeking to remove...
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vacancy this permit a rerecognized with that finding there's no more business commissioner president lazarus. >> we're adjourn >> good evening everyone with we readies to light a tree. >> yeah. >> that wasn't loud enough. >> are we ready to light a tree. >> good work everyone and welcome to holistic golden gate park i'm filling beginning beggar the manager of our park department and thank you to the performance tonight and others so tonight is our 85th annual holiday tree latin-american truly one of our signature events in the city's history alongside in the back is our esteemed president mark u he will give me a round of applause (clapping.) tonight behind me is a group of park lovers i'm going to introduce so first i want to introduce the rest of our commission flowering and megan and maggie and eric mcdonald and others (clapping.) and you're going 0 hear from him he's going to help us light the tree are our parks chief mayor ed lee (clapping) also behind me who's been here several years in a row our spribl e incredible district attorney george moscone our assessor carman chu is here super
vacancy this permit a rerecognized with that finding there's no more business commissioner president lazarus. >> we're adjourn >> good evening everyone with we readies to light a tree. >> yeah. >> that wasn't loud enough. >> are we ready to light a tree. >> good work everyone and welcome to holistic golden gate park i'm filling beginning beggar the manager of our park department and thank you to the performance tonight and others so tonight is our 85th annual...
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. >> good afternoon jim lazarus from the chamber of commerce thank you for your comments we continuedhave as you are aware significant problems with this legislation we think they can be worked out with time i may not have the time but we appreciate the 20 employee thresholds back in and the retention of 2 hundred is not major but how do this negotiates change that has over 15 thousand square feet that fenced hotels and major restaurant and catering companies it's unclear this supercedes i think it was passed a number of months ago regarding part-time employees we are concerned about the employers to if i vacancies and manage a workforce for full-time and part-time employees we rec recognize the needs and rights of employees to give the employers they want to work additional hours available but can't support anything that restricts the right of an employer to determine the hours and workforce composition regarding the fixed work schedule issues notice requirements of 14 days redundantly were acceptable to us as well as changes in the threshold for changes and work schedules and other
. >> good afternoon jim lazarus from the chamber of commerce thank you for your comments we continuedhave as you are aware significant problems with this legislation we think they can be worked out with time i may not have the time but we appreciate the 20 employee thresholds back in and the retention of 2 hundred is not major but how do this negotiates change that has over 15 thousand square feet that fenced hotels and major restaurant and catering companies it's unclear this supercedes...
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. >> lazarus. >> aye >> honda. >> aye. >> wilson. >> aye. >> thank you. >> this matter is continued and the vote is 4-0 to december 17th. thank you. >> items ten, a, b, and c, are continued to december, and we will call 11 a and b. 14-158, and 14-162, the first filed by smith and the second by miller and mckency, both against the department of building inspection and with the planning department approval and both have to do with 1264-6th avenue and protesting the issuance of the september, could you please, quiet. if you could keep it down. and for testing the issuance on september 8th, and and a new three story rear ad dish, with the third floor 72 square foot deck. and we will hear from the first appellant and you have seven minutes. >> i am happy to hear my opinions heard, about the proposed project, and i was blocked from speaking at the drhearing, due to a mix up with the dr application itself. and i was listed by the planning department as part of... >> could i stop you for a second. >> yes, sir. >> stop the time. >> is this joint? >> it is two separate appeals. >> okay, so each p
. >> lazarus. >> aye >> honda. >> aye. >> wilson. >> aye. >> thank you. >> this matter is continued and the vote is 4-0 to december 17th. thank you. >> items ten, a, b, and c, are continued to december, and we will call 11 a and b. 14-158, and 14-162, the first filed by smith and the second by miller and mckency, both against the department of building inspection and with the planning department approval and both have to do with 1264-6th...
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>> good afternoon, jim lazarus, san francisco chance chamber of commerce. whatever you do, i think the leadership of peninsula in san francisco cannot make the mistake of ending up with a system with differential heights of platforms. anything that can result in reduced flexibility at stations and certainly at the end of the line at transbay has to be avoided. it wasn't a height issue, but those of us who have been around since muni metro went into embarcadero station, know we have end of the line problems with capacity in san francisco with muni medical center metro. we thought it would be resolved and we still have problems at peak times i'm sorry if it's going to be a problem ultimately or a difficulty for caltrain to figure out the equipment that they need to buy. but we know what the international standard is for high-speed rail and that seems to be approximately 50" level floor, with the propulsion systems underneath. if that is what it has to be, we need to find a way to make caltrain's equipment compatible with the needs of statewide high-speed rail
>> good afternoon, jim lazarus, san francisco chance chamber of commerce. whatever you do, i think the leadership of peninsula in san francisco cannot make the mistake of ending up with a system with differential heights of platforms. anything that can result in reduced flexibility at stations and certainly at the end of the line at transbay has to be avoided. it wasn't a height issue, but those of us who have been around since muni metro went into embarcadero station, know we have end of...
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hearing and the november 19th historic preservation commission on that motion commissioner president lazarusjohnck commissioner johns commissioner matsuda commissioner wolfram president hasz smeemdz that motion passes unanimously. >> commissioner hyland a report back we had our first committee meeting prior to this one on the cultural heritage assets that was well attend we had 8 comments and a presentation from supervisor campos office as well as from the san francisco heritage our next meeting will be february 3rd the first meeting in february the mayor's office will be doing a
hearing and the november 19th historic preservation commission on that motion commissioner president lazarusjohnck commissioner johns commissioner matsuda commissioner wolfram president hasz smeemdz that motion passes unanimously. >> commissioner hyland a report back we had our first committee meeting prior to this one on the cultural heritage assets that was well attend we had 8 comments and a presentation from supervisor campos office as well as from the san francisco heritage our next...
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good evening commissioner president lazarus and commissioners my name is david perry i'm a real estate broker with the maguire releasing and been acquainted with the building since 1988 when i bought it with a partner it is two condominiums i live below so i'll be brief it could be said i'm for effected i prepared a few package brief in this appeal and i'll give you a copy of that i'm going to display that is a photograph from the last system that shows the existing deck when the prior owner bought that and so as you can see the deck at that time, expands across both bedrooms and both bedrooms had a door you could walk out into two rooms and come out into the float roof this is prior to the house being built a gap next door this next shows the condominium map from 1989 when we had before the conversion you see the dimensions of prior deck and i can read those off if you wish this is a photograph from the last listing when the harden beggars bought the property i didn't represent them on that purchase i have to vesting interest but you can see what is important this post here is the sam
good evening commissioner president lazarus and commissioners my name is david perry i'm a real estate broker with the maguire releasing and been acquainted with the building since 1988 when i bought it with a partner it is two condominiums i live below so i'll be brief it could be said i'm for effected i prepared a few package brief in this appeal and i'll give you a copy of that i'm going to display that is a photograph from the last system that shows the existing deck when the prior owner...
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hearing and the november 19th historic preservation commission on that motion commissioner president lazarus commissioner johnck commissioner johns commissioner matsuda commissioner wolfram president hasz smeemdz that motion passes unanimously. >> commissioner hyland a report back we had our first committee meeting prior to this one on the cultural heritage assets that was well attend we had 8 comments and a presentation from supervisor campos office as well as from the san francisco heritage our next meeting will be february 3rd the first meeting in february the mayor's office will be doing a presentation from the invest in the neighborhoods program. >> thank you commissioners comments or questions or disclosures. >> commissioner johnck and invest in the neighborhoods tells you can you tell us a little bit more about that tim do you know? tim frye department staff at the first hearing in february they'll give an overview of the program and their work particularly that the 24th street corridor and mission >> you've made a report on that, yes i remember okay thanks. >> commissioners, if there
hearing and the november 19th historic preservation commission on that motion commissioner president lazarus commissioner johnck commissioner johns commissioner matsuda commissioner wolfram president hasz smeemdz that motion passes unanimously. >> commissioner hyland a report back we had our first committee meeting prior to this one on the cultural heritage assets that was well attend we had 8 comments and a presentation from supervisor campos office as well as from the san francisco...
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. >> president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner wilson. >> i. >> thank you. the vote is four to zero. jurisdiction is granted. the requesters now have a five day appeal period to appeal this variance and this appeal period end this coming monday. thank you. >> we're going to take a very short break. >> welcome back to the december 17 meeting on san francisco board of appeals. we are on item 10. the subject property is at 1614 noe street. the requester asked that the board take jurisdiction over applicant holder which was issued on august 26, 2014 and the jurisdiction request is filed at the board office on december 1, 2014. the permit holder is steven fouler and the project >> everybody was getting along fine with the new house. instruction was well advanced and the project architect went to the planning department counter with a set of plans for a revision, is what he called it, a new permit revising the previous permit adding a roof deck and skylight and saw over the counter approval of this. it was brought to mr. omakaro, but many knowledgeable architectings might go
. >> president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner wilson. >> i. >> thank you. the vote is four to zero. jurisdiction is granted. the requesters now have a five day appeal period to appeal this variance and this appeal period end this coming monday. thank you. >> we're going to take a very short break. >> welcome back to the december 17 meeting on san francisco board of appeals. we are on item 10. the subject property is at 1614 noe street. the requester...
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on that motion to up hole, president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner honda. >> i. >> commissioner wilson. a: i. >> i. >> thank you. the vote is 4, zero, the permit is upheld on that basis. >> thank you. item 12 has been withdrawn so we'll move on to item 13, which is appeal number 14-176, jason blie versus department of building inspection. it's at 730 commercial street. protesting the issuance on october 3, 2014 the cultural services center to add four riser stairs between 731 and 731 again and provide approved entrance facility to 731. >> could we take discussions outside, please? we have other business to conduct. >> new doors to match wood existing and include power door assist. we can hear from the appellant. again, we just ask those who are leaving the room to do so as quietly as you can please so we can move on to the next piece of business. >> ladies and gentlemen of the the board, jason blie. some of you will remember me from our many past discussions and appeals over this property. it's unfortunate that we are here again. i'm very much hoping we are once again moving in the dir
on that motion to up hole, president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner honda. >> i. >> commissioner wilson. a: i. >> i. >> thank you. the vote is 4, zero, the permit is upheld on that basis. >> thank you. item 12 has been withdrawn so we'll move on to item 13, which is appeal number 14-176, jason blie versus department of building inspection. it's at 730 commercial street. protesting the issuance on october 3, 2014 the cultural services center to add four...
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on that motion to up hold with that condition and adoption of revised plans, president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner honda. >> i. >> commissioner wilson. >> i. >> thank you. the vote is four, zero. this permit is upheld with that condition and revised plans. thank you. >> there is no further business. >> we are adjourned. >> happy holidays, merry christmas. christmas. . >> welcome to the planning commission regular and final hearing for welcome back this thursday december 18, 2014, please be advised that the commission does not tolerate disruptions of any kind that may sound off and and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. i'd like to take roll at this point. >> commissioner president wu commissioner fong commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore and commissioner richards. >> commissioners first at this consideration for items proposed for continuance i have no items proposed for continuance next on our agenda is the consent calendar stem one case at 80 missouri street you conditional use authorization commissioner
on that motion to up hold with that condition and adoption of revised plans, president lazarus. >> i. >> commissioner honda. >> i. >> commissioner wilson. >> i. >> thank you. the vote is four, zero. this permit is upheld with that condition and revised plans. thank you. >> there is no further business. >> we are adjourned. >> happy holidays, merry christmas. christmas. . >> welcome to the planning commission regular and final hearing...