i am looking at how much lbe credit they have done. how much lbe they are putting on that particular cso. >> cso is? >> contract service order. each time we ask them to work, we ask them to issue a contract service order. and that's the process. i am looking at that, and if i am not around, simbar is around and will review those as well. >> and cmd and rh are? >> contract monitoring division, which is kind of what the human rights commission, the enforcement portion of the human rights commission for a lack of better word was spun off into the contract monitoring division. >> i think that's great. but i think what i am trying get at, i think we do a great job of monitoring and hoping to make sure they meet and exceed the goals. but sometimes they don't. i want to be sure that we are not continually giving firms the opportunity that are not meeting their goals. i don't know if there is something to do in this process. >> it's something that we can look at. >> also add, when the respondents coming in with their proposals. they will have

the lbe organizations will applaud and remember your actions. >> afternoon mr. wong. >> howard wong, savingmuni.com. half of my career has been overseeing large city projects; i am aware of the problems that projects can fortell at any point in the project. with the award of the tutor perini contract, the project report dated may 16, 2013, will drop the central subway contingency to 65 million dollars, or approximately 4% of the project cost. when the federal requirement at this point according to the fta is 10%, or 160 million. but - savemuni.com analysis indicates that perhaps this is even worse than it seems based on records that we have obtained the contingency might be closer to 3%. given the fact that major construction of tunneling and station deep excavation has not started at this point of the project is prudent to have large contingencies for project with high risk as the fta acknowledges. in 2009, the fta recommended a contingency of 20%, 330 million dollars

you had other lbes in those projects? >> yes we did. >> director bridges: am struggling with the rebundling, and not signing local businesses. i would think that you would find some contractors. i'm struggling with that fact. >> i understand. let me clarify. on all the other projects that we bid other than the muni metro tunnels; we find that many of the good one already subcontractors are more directed to the building business as opposed to tunneling subway stations 100 feet below the street, heavy excavation, we have chemical routing, compensation routing, piling, only two bids from contractors in the u.s. there is so little competition, in the past we got our strongest minority and local support in building finishes; these stations have a limited amount in building finishes and for whatever reason we got bids and gave of his preference to small business; and believe it or not we try to bring in local business where it was possible but we did try to stay with competitive pricing and low bids. unless they were close, we

it sets a dangerous precedent to ignore chapter 14 lbe ordinance which many supervisors have supported. all other supervisors support it. two, it ignores the impact of the local economy that could be generated from participation in this. can i submit this? >> of course. we would be happy to see it. next speaker. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon oren feldstrom -- the coalition is an umbrella group composed of numerous minority owned trade associations here in seven cisco such as the african american chamber of commerce, the asian-american contractors association and others. we have been working with many years to increase opportunities for smaller, local, minority owned firms the cities 14 lte program and the federal dbe program. local businesses and especially minority businesses are hurting. when the economy goes south it is our members who get first and hardest. we have had a number of our businesses over the last couple years just hanging on, downsizing, leaving the city or going out of business. that is why there was commenced excited about this project, 840 million dollar cont

in terms of how successful this program is, we have had percentages of more than 20 to 25 percent in lbe, lde participation. >> what was the percentages last year? >> i don't have that right now, but we could pull that up for you. or send that to your office. but, all of them would be like over 20 percent. >> and what is the base? >> the base is taken a look at any project that we did impose a requirement for sbe, lbe, dbe percentages and we will take a look at how invoices come in, we will input them into the system, how much per each invoice did the vendor pass the works down to a subcontract their qualified. and every quarter we take a look at that number if it does not meet what it expect it to meet we inquire with the vendor what is going on. >> has there been an indense in the last three years where we have not met that requirement? or not met that bench mark >> if it does not meet that, we do speak to the vendors. >> my question is has it happened? >> if so when, and like what sector? >> it has happened in different sectors based on the different needs of the project. push >> we c

what i learned and the contracts i was able to achieve through the lbe program really just light years put my business at the time light years in advance. it would have taken 20 years to gain a contract without the program so i am concerned there is about a 40% decline in women lbe's that you mentioned and anything that we can do on the commission and i know we want to be there because i mean when you guys do on the program it's amazing so we want to help if we can. >> i also wanted to recognize that really the success -- we had to take the village mentality and i understand commissioner o'brien's comments and it's the hardest working but look at why the women businesses are declining it's not they're tired and not going to get up but they have child care obligations and i heard over and over again that is one of the biggest barriers. i notice i regularly get the small business advisories and availability of meetings and it's great that we have so many programs. some are also offered during the day. i am wondering if there is a possibility to integrate child care with the availability

much is federal but we do getting good amount of dbes and lbes the participate in the balance of the agency's programs. we can still achieve the spirit of what the city is trying to do and get san franciscans, and san francisco businesses to benefit. >> follow-up on that. how would you characterize the outreach to the minority and small business communities in san francisco? about the same as always? >> no. we did significantly a higher level of outreach than we do in a normal construction project. and because of many people in the local community really work hard to get this project to where it is, and advocate for it at the state and federal level. it was important for us to try to maximize the extent that we could given the constraints of the law; as i mentioned, you even heard references, outreach going back five years to the contracting community. we required the bidders for this contract to come to meet and greet sessions with the contractors. we have a number of different forms and try to share all of the perspective bidding information so the program was funding positions in

>> the base is taken a look at any project that did impose a requirement for sbe, lbe, dbe percentages and we will take a look at how invoices come in, we will input them into the system, how much per each invoice did the vendor pass the works down to a subcontract their qualified. and every quarter we take a look at that number if it does not meet what it expect it to meet we inquire with the vendor what is going on. >> has there been an indense in the last three years where we have not met that requirement? or not met that bench mark >> if it does not meet that, we do speak to the vendors. >> my question is has it happened? >> if so when, and like >>t has n fferent needs of the project. push >> we could provide that information to you specifically, but generally it tends to happen in the more specialized areas since we are getting consultant service to support a travel demand forecasting model it may be that there are few that can do that and what i want to do for just a reminder is that big pie chart, the majority of it 97 percent is the funds that we give out to other agency and so

president of the asian american contractors association, local businesses and construction industry all lbes. i'm here today to talk about the point that chair nolan brought up, the lack of participation of local san francisco-based contractors. i went through my e-mail archives to see her respondents about this project. it goes back to 2008, there with me as i go through some of the e-mails that i found . in march 2008, sfmta started to reach local businesses and provide a network, in april 2008, the asian american architects and engineers, and the asian-american contractors association began to work with carter rohan and mr. fungi discuss this project to make sure local businesses get a part of this project. in september 2008, mr. fungi met with our association to discuss the opportunity to unbundling the project and our chance to participate .in 2008 there were more financial management seminars; in 2009, the former president of our association sent a letter to nathaniel ford [sounds like] suggesting unbundling and making sure we get part of the action. forward to 2011, 2012, we had meet

president of the asian american contractors association, local businesses and construction industry all lbes. i'm here today to talk about the point that chair nolan brought up, the lack of participation of

the process, and connect with the city agencies who are doing the programs, what we classify as an lbe, we are only able to classify as a small business, but not a minority or woman- owned business. to talk about what kind of contract you would be able to engage in, we also have a unique feature in that we hear some of the issues that businesses are experiencing and doing business with in san francisco, and so can help work with our policy makers, our legislature and the mayor's office to help change policy that will benefit small businesses as well. with that, i think i will turn it over to budget solutions, but just note that -- i mean, opportunity fund. excuse me. but just know that our office, we are in city hall in the tax and treasurer's office, and our office is www.sfgov.org/osb. we have some information on that. if you did not get one of our small business booklets and you want one, please take my card, e-mail me, and we will mail you one as well. immigrate. thank you, regina. for those of you looking to contact these organizations, you can find their contact information in th

be a great boost to the economy out there and it would be wonderful and one other question about the lbe goals. do you know how they came up with that number? it just seems a little... small to me. >> just a great, huge, project. >> that number, the ten percent number, is equivalent to what the 3317 negotiated with the contractor monitoring division they had actually started higher in that entitlement phase of 13 percent and they realized that was too aggressive and so they lowered it, the contract monitoring division lowered it to 15 percent and that is what it is here for the next entitlement phase. there will be another goal set for the construction phase of the pro-yekt and i think that was 20 percent in the 337 deal and we will be negotiating with the contract monitoring and the consideration before the dea. >> okay. and the one last thing is that i agree with toby and that i think that it will be two to three years out. it will be too much time for you guys to come back and tell us what is going on. so it will be great to get the semiannual updates or updates on the progress of the

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