why didn't lbj make his desire for withdrawal more public? that was the -- directly the entire point of our session today. mr. young: the second question for historians i think is the most interesting. why didn't he? i'm not a johnson scholar, i don't have a good sense for this at all. in retrospect, given the case that i think i can make -- i have just given you the surface level of the big case based on lots of vietnamese books and data and sons and culture and political stuff, all kinds of stuff, why didn't he do this? i don't really know. my only explanation is one i gave you, johnson's instincts are to slice things like this. everybody who saw johnson got something but they weren't always the same thing. it's johnson it seems to me who keeps all the secrets inside himself. everything is inside. the other thing that has come out and talking with paul and others, lyndon johnson was a deeply suspicious man. even in trust anybody. my guess is, for good reason. he had been betrayed more times by more people was he the right person to be a lea

lbj is the war criminal. lbj is the person responsible for this debacle in vietnam. lbj is the person sending people there. starts to takely over everything else that johnson is trying to do. it starts taking over fiscally because it is eating up a giant chunk of the budget. you cannot also have the generous antipoverty programs and welfare programs of the great society and have the big spend of increasingly expensive war. it also is eroding political support. by the time you get to 1968 it is not just the kids on the street. there are other people protesting for peace. there are other people out on the street or sitting in the tetng room watching the offensive and fold on the television and wondering what is going on. somehow things are going wrong. warscope and scale of the and the sneak attack, surprise offensive,the tet something where the u.s. back troops eventually prevailed, but it goes against what the leaders in washington had been telling you can public about how the war is going. it is showing a different more than what leaders are saying. everything is go

lbj is the war criminal. lbj is the person responsible for this debacle in vietnam. lbj is the person sending people there. vietnam gradually starts to take over everything else that johnson is trying to do. it starts taking over fiscally because it is eating up a giant chunk of the budget. the generouso have antipoverty programs and welfare programs of the great society and the big spending of an increasingly expensive war. it also is eroding political support. by the time you come into 1968, it isn't just the kids out on the street. there are other people protesting for peace. there are other people who are either out of the street or sitting in their living room watching the tet offensive unfold on the television and wondering what is going on. that somehow things are going wrong. the scope and scale of the war and the sneak attack of the tet offensive -- something where the u.s. backed troops eventually prevail, but something that goes against what the leaders in washington have been telling the american public about how the war is going -- it is showing a very d

and as i say even lbj in his -- fusive did that. and then reagan revolution, really did a lot for rugged individualism rhetorically. but it didn't really turn out to turn back government as a much i think as reagan might have liked. but he did rhetorically resign the role of government in our lives. you know he famously said -- that government is not the solution to our problems. government is our problem. and he did carry out some very significant tax reforms. he did move policy and money from the federal government to state governments in many ways. but as i said it was really in some ways more of a rhetorical victory than a policy victory and then we also have philosophical debates particularly in the realm of economics. and i'm going to skip forward to -- this debate today. the economists are still debating rugged individualism versus the forgotten man today and today's version of it you will -- i skipped over milton friedman and michael harrington and others in the 60s and 70s. but the debate today is really led by thomas, and

why didn't lbj make his withdrawal more public? >> the second question i think for you historians is really the most interesting one. why didn't he. and i am not a johnson scholar. i don't have a good sense of this at all. in retrospect and given the case i think i can make and i have given you the surface of a really big case based on lots of vietnamese books and data and songs and culture. and all kinds of stuff. why didn't he do this? i don't know. my only explanation is the one i gave to you. johnson instint is to slice this. and it is johnson it seems to me who keeps all the secrets inside himself. everything is inside and the other thing that has come out in talking with paul and others. lyndon johnson was a deeply suspicious man. he didn't trust anybody and my guess is for good reason. he had been betrayed more times by more people. so was he the right sort of person to be a leader of the american people in a limited war. the other thing we haven't talked about in a long time and it didn't come up at all in the last 15 years

i thought this was an interesting way, not in the george bush way, of doing it, but this is called lbj and you, and it talks about the ways in which lbj's presidency continues to act upon our lives and our bodies today. so you can see big bird right in this photograph, and photograph that says, have you ever watched public television, and if you have watched pl eed public tele you've been influence by this legacy. two images down from big bird, there's a boy buckling himself in with a seat belt. the text says, "have you ever used a seat belt?" so it's a really intimate, in a a way, and personal way of thinking about how leadership effects ordinary people. i'll end with how i think the libraries can do better at what they do, and then i'm happy to take whatever questions you might have. one thing that libraries can do, and this is something that i should say museums in regigener struggle with is to bring in a more diverse visitorship. sam mcclure, the director of the libraries at the national archives, i asked him, why is it that you really haven't done any studies on who comes to the l

. >> one of the smartest things that kennedy did was to make lbj his running mate.he needed texas, and he needed southern votes. and lbj was able to deliver texas. >> let me say first that i accept the nomination of the democratic party. the republican nominee, of course, is a young man, but his party is the party of the past. >> nixon was watching kennedy's acceptance speech, and he thought it was weak. he thought kennedy came across as being privileged and effeminate, not that good on tv and nixon thought to himself, i can beat him. >> richard nixon. >> 12 days later an unopposed richard nixon secures the republican nomination. >> thank you. >> when mr. khrushchev says our grandchildren will live under communism, let us say his grandchildren will live in freedom. >> nixon's speech fires the opening shot of the election. the race for the white house is on. ♪ kennedy kennedy kennedy ♪ kennedy kennedy kennedy ♪ kennedy for me ♪ kennedy ♪ kennedy >> the kennedys do what kennedys do best, spend money. >> it was called the jingle ad. every product was sold with a jingle

as i said before, that's what he did -- helped lbj. >> he eventually get a new law firm in washington. -- hisfortis imported wife -- was a tax specialist. that she will take a 90% salary cut. never go short -- >> his wife was tremendous in that area. when he visited, they never had children -- his jewish nephews and nieces -- they told him about what it was like to live a jewish life. he knew very little about that. he was pro-israel. his closest friends in washington for many years was -- the former israeli ambassador to the united states, later produce and debate -- >> some of his best friends were jewish. >> some of his best friends were jewish. i should have put that in the book. >> may be answer to this question is obvious, since the justices we have talked about so far, none of them -- either they had no jewish up ringing as in the case of louis brandeis, or they had jewish upbringing which they forsook. as was largely in the case of the others. fair to sayly not about cardozo, he just became a -- in different and an observant. or fortis,kfurter, which was just a categorical rej

so, michael, in many ways we can credit lbj with watergate if you want to look at it that way. there is a scene when nixon comes to the white house. he's going to move in, and johnson is showing him around the place. and they both get down on their knees. what did johnson want to show richard nixon? >> there's nothing i can say that's going to match that buildup, brian, and thanks for the kind word by the way. what happened was that johnson was showing nixon around the private rooms of the upstairs of the white house, and he says come into my bedroom. and so they go in, and johnson gets down on his knees, and as the story is told, sort of almost crawled under his bed. and nixon wondered what is going on here. and johnson apparently pulled out a lot of wires and said, you know, these lead to my taping system. you know, dick, you really should have a recording system the way that i do. it records my telephone calls, records -- you know, even here in my bedroom. records oval office conversations even down on the ranch. and when nixon went home, he said, you know, that's the last t

he said if they ever make me carry a rifle, the first man i wanted my sites is lbj. the pros tested -- he protested the vietnam draft and was charged and convicted of making threats to the president but the conviction was later overturned by the supreme court. the court rules that it was protected speech. for kathy griffin, according to his -- according to a law professor, it did not threaten the president or urge people to people are allowed to wish the president at up to the point where they express a will and intent to do him harm. did griffin break federal law? no. did you cross the line of human decency, that is for you to decide. i'm larry miller. >> there is a high priority with threats against those protected and they will be investigated. send us an email @vera scott send us the name -- send us an email at verify @wusa9. >>> now, wusa9 first alert weather rated dc's most accurate forecast. >>> a little bit of clouds in spots and that is broken out to sunshine and partly sunny skies and with that sunshine, temperatures warming up above the high temperature fr

there is chapter and verse on all the legislation passed and more legislation than any president since lbj but we couldn't prioritize. you need a chief of staff to prioritize and make sure that the narrative is consistent. make sure everybody is on the same page. none of that is happening current day. he suffered from not having a white house chief from day one and in my opinion jack would have been a great one. >> >> one of the things when you start out your book you talk about what seems like just the most logical. that is bringing former chiefs of staff together. jack, you were there, what was it like and what was it meaning? we just went around the table and each one of us made a brief statement on a piece of advice we thought was helpful or would give guidance. he was the chief of staff that i met when we were elected. it got around to dick who was at the end of the table, almost at the very end, dick is an interesting man. he leaned ford like this and he said i have one piece of advice, keep the vice president under control. >> he looked very gravely at rom and said never forget when

the legislation passed early in the carter administration, more legislation than any president since lbj. but he could not prioritize. you need a chief of staff to prioritize to make sure that the narrative is consistent, make sure everybody is on the same page, none of that is happening in the present day but he suffered from not having a white house chief from day one and in my opinion jack would have been a great one. >> you know, one of the things, when you start out our book, you talk about what seems like just the most logical meeting in advance of an administration taking office and that is bringing former chief of staffs together and in this case it was to bring him up to-speed andg jack, you were there. what was the meeting like? >> december 5t, 2008, the president's outgoing chief of staff had gathered this group and they were 13 or 14 of us there sat around the table in the office having breakfast and talking. we went around the table and each one of us made a very brief statement of some little piece of advice we thought was helpful or would give guidance. some humorous. a lo

when you played lbj -- you played him on broadway first. >> yes. >> seth: is it true on monday, that'shat you would not speak at all? >> that's right, yeah. i talked to audra mcdonald, who was doing "porgy and bess" at the time, and her doctor told her, "you can't speak on monday. i am giving you a prescription to say 'silent mondays' and stick to it," because otherwise, she could have blown out her vocal chords. well, i did a precautionary move and did the same thing, so i just didn't talk on mondays. my wife, i would be writing notes, "want to make love?" [ light laughter ] women love that. by the way, there's a tip. >> seth: yeah. >> we've been married a long time. >> seth: yeah. write a note, "want to make love?" >> seth: yeah. >> it's much better than, you know, a nice caress of hands because you know immediately. [ light laughter ] there i would go to a diner, and, you know, "what's the soup?" and when i would do that, they would -- and i had a pre-written one that said, "doctors orders, can't speak." >> seth: uh-huh. >> and invariably, people would go, "oh, okay." [ whispers ] [

all the legislation that was passed early in the carter -- more legislation than any president since lbj, but he couldn't prioritize. you need a chief of staff to prioritize, to make sure that the narrative is consistent, make sure that everybody is on the same page. none of that is happening clearly in the present day, but he suffered from not having a white house chief from day one, and in my opinion, jack would have been a great one. >> one of the things -- when you start out your book you talk about what seems like just the most logical kind of meeting in advance of an administration taking office, and that is bringing former chiefs of staff together and in this case it was to get -- >> rahm emanuel. >> yeah to bring him up to speed and had most of the chiefs of staff there to give him advice. jack, you were there what was it like, the meeting? >> it was funny. december 5, 2008, josh bolton, who was the president's chief of staff, outgoing president chief of staff, george w., gathered the group and maybe 13 or 14 of thus, i think, sat around the table in the chief of staff's office,

lbj and to a certain extent nixon had that. but they refrained from making them public, because israel seems like an underhanded thing to do to record people without their knowledge and once they use the tapes one time, they could really use them again because people were walking to the oval office knowing that they were being recorded. so presidents would use that advantage. host: can a president claim executive privilege in keeping the recordings that he or she has made? guest: richard nixon made that claim of executive privilege, his conversations with his aides needed to be protected so the executive branch could function, but ever since 1978 and the passage of presidential records act, those any current or former president has taped since then -- the tapes belong to us, the american people. andy tape since then can be subpoenaed. all of them are public documents that eventually have to be released to the public starting some years after the end of the presidency. host: we have a slide we can put on the screen about the pre

. >> lbj one famously said there are two things you never want to be seen made, litigation and sausage. if you take snapshots it doesn't always make sense. a criminal investigation is a puzzle. until puzzle is put together and presented to the grand jury, we'll not be able to know what's in there and we wobe able to figure it out. great familiar coming. >> we are going to have more on the russia if fiasco. first, hoik now on the impeachment train. clinton gave they are prediction as to how the trump presidency might end. >> we were serious in the past presidential election of a man whose presidency would eventually end in disgrace for his impeachment for obstruction of justice. kennedy: if she is talking about nixon, he resigned before he was impeached. senator cory booker? impeachment snow said not so fast. >> i'm not going to rush to impeachment. i think we need to deal with this in a sobered way. this can't be a relit gaiftion an election that's already passed. kennedy: let me take to it my certified preowned party panel. kirsten haglund. and guy benson. welcome back. so much news t

. >> though lbj had experienced the same crises by sitting next to kennedy, he had not come out withlusions. he did not share kennedy's suspicion of the united states military or military advice. once kennedy was gone, it was inevitable that u.s. foreign policy was going to change. we lost a president that was skeptical of military advice and gained one who usually took it. >> the official russian announcement said he resigned. crowds that one cheered khrushchev wildly were left in the dark as to what went on when the central committee named leonid brezhnev as the new leader of the party. >> my father was shocked. his successor just went in the opposite direction, then divorce of his policies. he was very upset. >> he had begun a new age of the soviet union, a thawing of the cold war. not complete, but the beginning of something. but things change. >> the cuban missile crisis showed that neither side could gain a military victory over the other side. so therefore, the competition had to take a different form. >> it was the beginning of the very rapid changes in the relations between

jack could, too, on all the legislation passed in cart -- more legislation than any president since lbj, but he couldn't prioritize. you need a chief of staff to prioritize, to make sure that the narrative is consistent, make sure that everybody is on the same page. none of that is happening clearly in the present day, but he suffered from not having a white house chief from day one, and in my opinion, jack would have been a great one. >> you know, one of the things -- when you start your book you talk about what seems like just the most logical kind of meeting in advance of an administration taking office and that's bringing former chiefs of staff together and in this case it was to get -- >> rahm emanuel. >> to bring him up to speed and had most of the cheviots staff there to give him -- chiefs of staff to give him advice. what was that's meeting like? >> funny. >> december 5, 2008. >> dem 5, 2008. josh bolton, the president's chief of staff, outgoing chief of staff for george w., had gathered this group and there were 13 or 14 of thus, i think, stat around the table in the chief of s

the white house should perhaps recall what another president, lbj, said about another fbi director, jt pissing out than outside pissing in. it is a delicious irony that russia's foreign minister should be visiting washington today to see mr trump. you're kidding? such insouciance is impressive. never forget that the us intelligence agencies all say that russia interfered in the election, and they did it to put president trump in office. raise your hand, please... that assessment was made by james clapper, when he was director of national intelligence. he told congress this week that russia had hacked leading democrats and then leaked out damaging information a sophisticated propaganda campaign. they must be congratulating themselves for having exceeded their wildest expectations with a minimal expenditure of resources. and i believe they are now emboldened to continue such activities in the future both here and around the world, and to do so even more intensely. no evidence has been made public proving that the trump campaign did conspire with russia. nothing. there's no evidence eith

gregg: jfk and lbj forever told j edgar hoover to do this investigation and stop that investigation.oes all the way back to thomas jefferson and the trial of aaron burr. i'm getting into the weeds. i don't know where that popped out, great to see you guys. laura: president bush teaming up with an old friend to protect their common legacy. uniting a rock star and former president coming up next. hillary clinton takes aim at donald trump during a commencement speech more than six month after she lost the election. the time to let it go? fair and balanced debate coming up. i count on my dell small business advisor for tech advice. with one phone call, i get products that suit my needs and i get back to business. ♪ ♪ what makesheart healthysalad the becalifornia walnuts.r? the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org. z282sz zwtz y282sy ywty "how to win at business." step one: point decisively with the arm of your

just as lbj and fdr provided a safety net, this is now part of what we're going to provide going in thee. >> dagen: charles krauthammer said something similar last night on special report. i love talking about him, but he said this. with the inception of obamacare, there is a paradigm shift in the country and we are now all on liberal ground. the purpose of government is to provide health insurance and it's the right of the american people to have that insured and guaranteed. he thinks ultimately we will wind up with a single-payer and it will be medicare for all. by the way, medicare is going broke. >> sandra: surely, you have something to say about this. to be blasting these efforts, is this good for the country question mike >> meghan: no it's not. i think there's a lot of falsehood being pointed around on all sides. i think people really need to understand what's happening. >> meghan: no it's not. i think there's a lot of falsehood being pointed around if you think government funded health care is great, why is the d.a. such an absolute disaster? the argument was move it back to the

very shortly after, so, lbj. thank you very much. reporter: young girl.h to have a teacher so inspiring, he or she actually changes the course of our lives. and for me, gil chestertown was that person. he taught journalism at beverly hills high school for decades. he inspired legions of us to become print and broadcast reporters, anchors, writers, producers. he was tough. he was gruff, but he taught us all that a profession in journalism was an honorable one, if you took it seriously, focused on the facts. his students went on to write for papers all around the world. "the l.a. times," "the new york times," international herald tribune and work at networks from abc, in. bc, cbs, cnbc, bloomberg and yes, right here at fox business. gil died last week at the age of 84. his legacy lives on in his students including me. i hope you're proud. ♪ liz: you've got two trading days and about three minutes left. with records being set do you want to take advantage of that? s&p is record by this much, for those of you on xm, i have a teeny index finger and thumb holdi

michael, i know lbj wanted in part for leverage to remind people what they had said or promised to himer the phone he always had the transcript if he needed it. if this current president is recording private conversations in the white house other than making himself a huge subpoena target, is there anything wrong with it? is there anything illegal? >> illegal is a question. in terms of shattering precedence and shattering things that presidents have been doing before ever since that day that you just showed with alexander butterfield in july of 1973, nixon had to immediately stop taping and pull out the system and later presidents have all said i will never do such a thing because it reminds people of nixon who behaved badly, but it violates people's civil liberties to record conversations with the president that are supposed to be private without their knowledge. and the other thing is that presidents have felt that if people even had the suspension that when they go into the oval office or talk to a president on the telephone that they are being taped they are not going to give a pre

lbj was 6'3 1/2," just a half inch shorter than lincoln. >> in 2015, andrea solis and her brother, keithmily heirloom authenticated -- this mallet, which they believe was made and owned by abraham lincoln as a young man in indiana. leading the charge, two amateur researchers -- their cousin tom brauns and tom's friend steve haaff. they've established a relationship between the carter and lincoln families. now they tackle those fancy letters, "a-l." would lincoln really inlay his initials on an old mallet? >> i think that abraham lincoln was tinkering. people did mark their stuff for ownership, to make sure that it wasn't stolen. >> the guys confirm lincoln did initial at least one other tool. in a blacksmith's shop in the 1830s, witnesses recall abe etching his initials into an iron wedge. it's on display at the smithsonian. those initials look very similar to the "a-l" on andrea and keith's wood mallet. that these letters are inlaid is another key to steve and tom's authentication. >> not just anybody could do inlay work. one of the questions you have to ask yourself, did abraham lincol

lbj certainly had tapes that proven over the years fascinating and embarrassing to him. yes, we should assume there are tapes. apparently according to reporting over the weekend, comey would be happy to have the tapes come to light. he said he would testify, but testify out in the open. the president has picked a fight with a guy who has things to say in response which i think will be a further embarrassment to the white house. you heard from across the board over the weekend that if the tapes are there, they'll be subpoenaed and part of it. all of this is just so irresponsible on the part of the president and the people who work for him who have sacrificed their integrity to say things that whether they knew or didn't know were untrue about all this. when nikki haley, our ambassador to the u.n. says it is his right to fire the director. thank you for the obvious. it has nothing to do if it was the appropriate action to take. it has nothing to do if it was done inappropriately to undermine an ongoing investigation and undermine the independence of the fbi director. we ne

>> it reminds me of the 60s, tucker, when the change of "hey, hey, lbj, how many kids did you kill today lips of demonstrators across the country. we had violence, we had violence in the streets during the famously during the democratic convention, 1968. we had violence on college campuses, we had flags burn, we had this sort of behavior we are seeing now. but i agree with you. not since then have we seen anything on the scale. i think that it is all about basically two things. one thing, there was unrest in the democratic party when hillary clinton won denomination and rested it from bernie sanders. you had a none too happy cadre within the democratic party, going into the election. they all believed, i am sure, that she would win, while she wasn't her favorite, she was better than the other person whom they thought and think was unthinkable. he won. and they haven't been able to get over it. this is all, i think, basically about trumped about trump derangement syndrome and the behavior you are seeing and nott the demonstrations, but in the rhetoric about well-known people, it is beyond

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he made the changes he did he never left room at the table for the rugged individuals and so under lbj blank healthcare, he added a safety net if you will come in medicare and medicaid for the seniors dow with needed. but for others, he said if you want to keep your own healthem insurance if your employer provides health insurance, if you want to take care of your own, you can still do that, but we will create a health care safety net for those that are not able to do that ford actual themselves. and actually, we hold that up in our book as a bit of a model. whether you're the room at the table for both the forgotten man and the rugged individual would we want to leave room at the table for both of these important icon in our history and in this grandiose he did that. then the ronald reagan revolution really did a lot forr the individualism rhetorically. but it didn't really turn back to turnout the government as much as ronald reagan would have liked. but he did i sort of rhetorically redefine the role of government in our lives. he famously said that the government is not the solutio

this is going to be a trip that is later than any other president since lbj to have a foreign or overseas trip. talk to us about where the president plans to head later this month and what the significance is of those specific countries. >> reporter: yeah, and what's interesting about that, too, is when you think of presidents making their first trip out of the country, you think of places like going to mexico or canada, but with controversy over nafta and the border wall, that's not happening, at least not yet. president trump instead, his first visit will be to saudi arabia, israel, and rome. and all of this in an effort to bring world religions together in an effort to build middle east peace. he said, "to build a coalition of friends who share the goal of fighting terrorism and stability in the middle east," that according to president trump. he will also be meeting with the pope, a person he's been critical of in the past. ana? >> interesting. jason carroll reporting for us from new jersey, thank you. let's find out more about the next steps now for the health care bill. cnn's mj lee

. >> lbj, would you want his stuff in there. >> should trump burn his?if he's got the tape made now. >> should he burn it? >> depends on what's on it. >> no, he should not, if he's made it. but he should hold on to it. >> comey was begging for renomination, continuance in office. >> you know, i don't think -- >> suppose he asked comey for loyalty of oath, he wouldn't want that out. >> it comes out of misunderstanding for the whole federal government, i agree, donald trump is new to that as you and i would be to real estate. >> as citizen somehown't he understand checks and balances? >> sure, he said i want all my guys to be loyal, i i'm sure he didn't get in line and do what he wanted him to do. >> let's talk about obstruction of justice, when a guy fires the guy who is investigating him, isn't that obstruction? >> no. >> no trump said it was the russian thing. >> comey is not running the investigation, the investigation continues. . if he had shutdown the fbi the way nixon shutdown special prosecutor, you would have an argument. >> he said, i put 20 spe

lbj had secret tape recordings. so given what we know about donald trump and his try, it's not surtrprising at all. >> kristen, to your point again, i know this is going to come up during the press briefing. at this point, do we know? has the white house ever said anything about the possibility of a recording system there in the west wing? >> reporter: not once, craig. and i reached out the a number of officials here at the white house to put that question to them today. i haven't heard back from them. there's no reason to believe that there are such recordings. but again, this is something that we're going to drill down on withean spicer when he comes to the podium just a few minutes from now. but we've never had that indication. this has never been raised here within the west wing. certainly that tweet raises questions about what specifically the president was referencing. >> michael, jiaime clapper talkd to andrea mitchell a short time ago. he says he talked to jim comey before that now infamous dinner. take a li

the critical lbj program that efficiently provides medical care and services for people who can't afford and it does so at a 25% lower cost than alternatives in the private sector. the third myth is the most important for policy and politics right now. that republicans say they have more momentum to go into the senate. that is how trump and paul ryan justify that unusual press conference victory party thing. and this is an issue where their take doesn't actually matter, and my take doesn't matter. the only take that is going to matter here are the current members obviously of the senate. and nearly every one of the 46 democrats there says this bill is dead on arrival. and now as the smoke clears going into the weekend, many republican members sound skeptical as well. dean heller, republican senator says we can't pull the rug out from under states like nevada that expanded medicaid. senator rob portman says this bill does not do enough to protect ohio's expanding medicaid population. and others aren't even entertaining a debate around this bill right now, arguing instead they'll write the

the president was actually a little bit, chris, like, you know, almost like lbj, you know, pounding people on the back, bringing them to the white house. well, it's been one of the criticisms that president obama experienced over the years is he didn't do enough back slapping, didn't bring people up to the white house. >> that is true. >> the oval office is so powerful. that's incredible real educatst. president trump effectively did it. whether you agree or not, he was very e fejtiorget effective at >> that is a fact, haven't been able to do it until president trump not only console ejoeled to do it, said i'm going to introduce a guy who's been treated really unfairly, paul ryan, there are a lot of americans who think the person who treated paul ryan very unfairly was, in fact, president trump. he used every tool in his arsenal to get, as you said, those 217 votes and closing it in the other day with the upton amendment was what it took to do it. he's given everybody, as you described it, a little band-aid, a little cover. some of these members there for that photograph have very little c

years later he would brief president lyndon johnson and take on a role at lbj's state department.970 z when dr. brzezinski was thrust on the world stage as national security adviser to president jimmy carter. the first order of business, learning how to pronounce his name. >> he sent out a handwritten note, name how to spell and pronounce -- >> dr. big knew brzezinski. >> where i screwed up, the w should be an f, they spelled it wrong on your book. >> spell that. >> z b igniew. [ bell ]. >> you are by far the best guess we have ever had as far as accumulated scrabble points. >> soon enough big knew brzezinski did big a household name, something only possible in america. >> when i was sworn in with the cabinet members, i walked from that to my new office and i said to myself, from now on, for the next four years, everything will be dominated with what is good for america, what is good for the presidency, and i'm just going to give it my all. >> that included playing a pivotal role in the 1978 camp david accords bringing together the leaders of egypt and israel for an historic peace

this is what he should have done, lbj 50 years ago giving the pope a bust of himself.that would be a graven image. >> talk about the irony of these two people coming together today, the day donald trump's budget comes out and slashes health care for the poorest among us by hundreds of billions of dollars. >> i don't think you can have two people with more different backgrounds. a new york real estate mogul who talks about the importance of money and really touted his flam mo glam mauer and success. you have a jesuit who spent his time working with the poor, among the poor and for the poor. >> describe, if you would -- these are two men who understand very different ways, very different contexts the nature of power. because the first shall be last and last shall be first, but he's pope now, he's first now. are there comparisons and contrasts to be made between this man's unlikely journey to the papacy and donald trump's rise? >> i think you can say that. you can say they're disrupters in their own way. i think the pope understands particularly the importance of what you

fdr and jfk, and lbj and of the lo long sweep of the century. those are the presidents going down as having fundamentally reshaping our economic life and social life in dramatic ways of reforms. >> third, there is no question, i think the liberal interna internationalism that william jennings bryan -- wilson helped to develop. there were those who wrongly sort of tried to see the bush to foreign policy if you will of an expression of p-- you see it muh more and now with a donald trump presidency who has come in basically declaring an end to the post 45 world order. he laid out the system of rules and institutions and policies that have presided for the last 72 years that's belated of the wilsonian's legacy. none the less of the world that we live with is quite successfully for so long. it is not forgotten that he won the noble peace prize. he was recognized at the time for that. um -- there is a few other point that i could respond to what some of my colleagues have said which i will try to do briefly. i think it is important to think about wils

wrote the book on speaking truth to power called their election of duty about general standing up to lbjg vietnam. someone i think we have no reason to believe within this thing on multiple occasions for the president. this is a case where president trump shared some reporting that it's been out there in terms of our laptops from airliners. it's worth remembering the russians lost an entire airliner to ice instrument flying out of egypt. you have some follow-up from staff. what has me really worried is not so much with president trump said. it is the leaks going on. you have someone in the intelligence community so concerned about what president trump may or may not have shared but how does it fix things that go into the "washington post" ensuring additional details about it? >> colonel, and i'll do for you knowing that you know far more about this than i do a lifetime. maybe some of the leakers were concerned and they can't tell the president because he doesn't listen to them. if that is the case, that would be a worry, wouldn't it? >> you know, that's along the same lines of logic and

jfk, lbj also did the same thing.eil: so we do have precedent for leakers and how to deal with them and all but we also have, when the national security is at risk. with the pentagon papers you and i were remembering. the courts ultimately ruled in the favor of "washington post," "new york times" releasing this stuff. what was their argument at the time? >> well, that was a prior restraint case and the court issued a test. if the government interests outweighs the public interest in receiving the information, then that's a crime. for example, if you disclose troop movements at time of war, it is hard to justify the public's interest in that. you're jeopardizing human lives. so that's a clear-cut case in which it's a crime. but it is a balancing test. look, the courts have been rather mixed on this. neil: with the environment, vietnam war was very unpopular. the pentagon papers revealing a level of deceit, confirmed our worst suspicions. >> right. neil: in this case, gregg, how far do you go? let's say you were able to

. >> lbj after he announced in the wake of, the vietnam war, you know, turmoil that he was going to travelhe world. in fact he took a trip entirely around"át world, visited many countries. i think presidents get a certain amount of sustenance and reaffirmmation in these trips. really it is the opportunity for them to change the channel. the real question if there will be bombshells, sort of real time unfolding? i don't know what the timing of senate intelligence or house intelligence committee hearings are. but if those hearings are hello during the trip that could be very problematic. neil: this is maybe not the direct question to an ambassador to soil himself in political matters but do you think that a number of democrats have been insisting they want hearings, on and on? one republican blasted, you're trying to run out the clock, you're pushing back tax cuts and health care, all about torpedoing the trump agenda and it will work because if you are pushing it back into next year that makes it much tougher for republicans to do? they don't have a lot of wiggle room in the senate. we men