lbj is watching outen tv. thanks everybody else in the world but doesn't thank lyndon johnson and lyndon johnson did not forget it. by now we're starting to accelerate into vietnam. johnson has started to send combat troops over there. late 1967, the vietnam war has been going on now for a solid three years of open combat. we had almost a half million troops over in vietnam. a number of u.s. senators were becoming these antiwar senators. kennedy was starting to move in that direction from '66 and '6 but wouldn't commit because his brother was the guy that first got us into vietnam and he was kind of in this quandary of attacking the policies that he was a part of in his brother's administration. johnson's going full bore on vietnam, on the republican candidate, they're all supporting president on vietnam, saying, go, go, go. and so a game howard lonesteen who send one term in congress, leading the antiwar movement decided signing petitions and having protest made won't work. he need to find somebody who will c

lbj, 64, 65. even lbj reached out to republicans, and fdr had republican support the first two years. when mitch mcconnell, and will probably come back to a couple of times, when senator mcconnell started doing healthcare and trying to get 50 of his 92 votes from his caucus, my reaction was, well, that shouldn't work and couldn't work. and it's not supposed to work that way. you are supposed to be looking for some people on the other side to get 65 or 70 votes. of course he would say that would be impossible because none of them would vote with us because they're against trump, et cetera. ..

tye: we're talking about roberty beat lbj before kennedy got into it. he gets into it and looks like the ultimate -- the cutthroat politician who lets gene mccarthy do the tough work in new hampshire and then bobby kennedy takes his mantle away four days later. sent anal columnist telegram to ted kennedy saying, what your brother has just done in new hampshire shows that saint patrick did not drive all the snakes out of ireland. [laughter] that was maybe the most can handed entry ever, but if you look at the evidence, the evidence is clear cut that kennedy had decided to enter nine days before, and he decided it was only fair to give mccarthy that clear shot before he came in. when he was being a gentleman and doing the kind of thing that the political campaign manager in him would have asked him to do, he ended up hurting himself badly with the press, and it took almost the entire campaign for reporters to come around and trust bobby kennedy, but by the end of that campaign -- one of the other ways that campaign offers a dramatic contrast to what is go

lbj came this close to claim that nomination. >> be nine be nine. [inaudible] >> i can repeat the question did mayor daley with the kennedys to see if edward would get into the race? that delegation was supposed to break for hubert humphrey to announce the endorsement daly called everybody together the delegation together at the sherman hotel and said we will not endorse anybody until nomination night people suspected that was that tragedy of ted kennedy but i think the evidence actually shows lbj would put the kebabs on that. that is why he didn't want the delegation to go. >> and the first case of fake news like the tet offensive was announcing a military victory and then it with that election that one reason it wasn't the people in the riots in the streets and with the radicals. >> america was so divided i guess that's true with the red state blue state phenomenon but what we and do her as a nation pales in comparison when shot in 196-8100 major cities were aflame in the riots campus riots on the university colleges all across the country were br

. >> bobby and lbj always hated each other. bobby kennedy thought lbj was a bully. thought bobby was an annoying runt. a bad match. >> the kennedys need the big texan to carry the south. and appease voters uncomfortable with electing a catholic. >> there will be some non-catholics who will vote against senator kennedy because of his religion. the governor of the state of north carolina said he felt that this problem or difficulty would cost us maybe 200,000 votes in the state of north carolina. >> it feels so silly. it feels so remote. but it really wasn't that remote in the grand scheme of things. it's not that long ago. >> john is facing an opponent who has had eight years of experience on the world stage. there's one thing nixon lacks, the kennedy charisma. >> the story is told, who knows if it's true or not, that one of the nixon people at the first debate in chicago said to rfk, does nixon look okay in his makeup? rfk said he looked like death warmed over, said looks perfect, don't change a thing. >> with robert's assistance, his charismatic brother wins the fi

lbj, '64, '65. but even lbj reach tout republicans, and -- reached out to republicans, and fdr had republican support the first two years. when mitch mcconnell, and we'll probably come back to him a couple of times, when senator mcconnell started doing health care and trying to get 50 of his 52 votes from his caucus, my reaction was, well, that shouldn't work and couldn't work, and it's not supposed to work that way. you're supposed to be looking for some people on the other side to get 65 or 70 votes. of course he would say that would be impossible, because one of to them would vote with us because they're against trump, etc. but this notion that one party has to rule by themselves brings us to some bad places. >> you can watch in this and other programs online at booktv.org. [inaudible conversations]

my question regards the relationship between your dad and lbj. any insight you may have into private conversations they may have. i know there was no love lost between them. >> it was a complicated relationship. a lot of people say my father did not want held bj on the ticket, and that is where and he tried to talk lbj out of it. that was a misunderstanding at that time. it was more complex. my uncle said were going to do lbj and my father was on board with that. they were approached at that time by the unions they said if you bring elm bj on the uaw and reuter they said if you choose lbj, we will turn against the ticket. my uncle said, to my father go down and tell lyndon what were getting so he knows over getting into. when my father had that conversation with lyndon my father was trying to talk them out of the job, he wasn't. he was just saying what's going to happen. johnson was regarded as a right-wing softener. he was a nonunion state and unions were the backbone of the democratic party them. they hated him. my father was conveying a politi

the fourth person is the one that to me is a great tragedy, and that was lbj. constitutionally, these guys were so different. one was a harvard educated guy who grew up rich in massachusetts. the other was a guy from east texas who grew up poor and resented anybody who was harvard educated and who talked like bobby kennedy talked. had they ever united in a coalition, they could have gotten more extraordinary things done. they both wanted to promote civil rights. they both want to do and poverty, and the idea that they were at cross purposes, to me, is a huge tragedy -- they both wanted to end poverty. one thing that lbj more than ever was to stay in vietnam was bobby kennedy was calling for him to come out of vietnam. every time bobby kennedy gave a rabid antiwar speech, it seemed like the next day, lbj increased the bombing. mr. green: one of the things that struck me in the book that i did not remember -- mr. tye: would you tell us how many times you've read the book, by the way? mr. green: i'm the only person in america who has read the book twice. i think.

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about neglectful politics or policies in this regard by administrations dating all the way back to lbj. what specifically is the sort of trend of the policies that you see leading to this place right now? >> well, i think -- i mean american history is certain very relevant, because we can't say the united states has always had one single approach to poverty. you have fdr's new deal. you've got lbj's war on poverty, and even nixon was actually very sympathetic to a range of welfare initiatives. but since, say, 1980 or whatever, what we've seen is a very consistent trend where the notion of solidarity, the notion of judging a society by how it treats the worst off has been systematically discarded, and now i think american policy is characterized primarily by efforts to stigmatize the poor, to make them feel and make others feel that it is their fault that they're poor, to characterize them often in racial terms, to pretend this is a problem that is predominantly african american and not for the white community, which of course is completely wrong, and to end up at the point that the soc

as i was watching that, i was wondering what lbj was speaking about vietnam.rian: it was right in the middle of it. patricia: it sounds a good justification of vietnam, we did this because we had to do it. as we look back on it now, all of the things, all of the lies we were told and what was actually going on, it does not look like that was the case. brian: that was the dedication of the woodrow wilson school of public international affairs. students write about pulling the name of it? patricia: that turned out to be the trickiest thing because it was the biggest mention of wilson, the school of international public affairs. his idea of having a world organization, and organization of world governments committed to peace and collaboration, that was a revolutionary idea. the fact that it did not work the first time and that it is still very hard, it is hard for the u.n. to get things right, people have a lot of complaints, but i think we are better off for having it then not. wilson's notion of internationalism, that it has to have a big place in the world, we

looking back, the fact that lbj was in the same city, and governor connally was in the , and lbj was on the same plane when he took the oath of office. did they take serious corrective measures to avoid the same thing after? thank you. interesting putting yourself in the position of what was happening at the time. i was lucky with my other book about the first lady, total meat lady bird johnson's social secretary. to come to the office where the white house is draped in black fabric. there was no inaugural celebration, obviously. a heavy, dark cloud. they were worried on the plane -- they cut the engine, ordered everyone to put the windows down so nobody could see into the plane. they were concerned this was part of a larger conspiracy. jackie kennedy said she almost wished it had been part of a larger conspiracy. the verdict is still out, of course. people still discussed lee harvey oswald. but the idea that her husband would die because of one man was very upsetting to her. that whenohnson jokes jfk was president, i feel like a raisin hovering over his shoulder. raven hovering over

what i've done is to take four of the guys that i knew before -- lincoln, teddy, franklin roose and lbj domestically -- and look at them through the lens of leadership so, hopefully, it can be a road map for young leaders, for established leaders about what's leadership in moments of great tush lends are, and what it was able to achieve. it gives us solace, i think, when we look back to that. >> host: end when did you start working on a book like this? >> guest: five years ago. it took even longer than i thought it would, i thought i knew my guys, but somehow i thought i was seeing them anew as young leaders, finding out when their ambition came from, how they went through adversity. and then the question, the big question is does the man fit the time or the time fit the man so that certain leadership at certain times isn't going to work. but these guys were fitted for the moment in history. i hadn't thought about this stuff before, so it was like being in college again. >> host: you talk about them as your guys. >> guest: well, i feel like i've lived with them for so many years. i mean

more to come on programs and others and finally i want to invite all of the friends of the lbj library members -- to a receps in the great hall that will follow this program. tonight, we are delighted to welcome jake tapper who is fourth book the health fire club has spent four weeks since its release on "the new york times" best seller list. i hope you are picked up the book but if you didn't you'll have a chance to do so after the program. jack has been in washington for two decades. he started his career in journalism at the washington city paper. then moved on to salon and abc news. in 2013 he joined cnn as a chief, washington, correspondent and host the lead with jake tapper and sunday mornings "state of the union." his excellence as journalist has yielded him as a rep aration for one of the for being one of the best in his very competitive field led to awards including emmy edward r. award and three smithwards. "the washington post" recently called jake a tenacious anchor of cnn, the merciless slayer of alternative facts -- [laughter] and clapping a lot tonight and the dog deflat

lbj, '64, '65. but even lbj reach tout republicans, and -- reached out to republicans, and fdr had republican support the first two years. when mitch mcconnell, and we'll probably come back to him a couple of times, when senator mcconnell started doing health care and trying to get 50 of his 52 votes from his caucus, my reaction was, well, that shouldn't work and couldn't work, and it's not supposed to work that way. you're supposed to be looking for some people on the other side to get 65 or 70 votes. of course he would say that would be impossible, because one of to them would vote with us because they're against trump, etc. but this notion that one party has to rule by themselves brings us to some bad places. >> you can watch in this and other programs online at booktv.org. [inaudible conversations] >> and now from the printers row lit fest in chicago, a conversation about the life of labor organizer and political activist lucy parsons. >> good afternoon and welcome to the 34th annual chicago tri

that is why lbj brought william westmoreland back. on this public relations campaign, you could see the light at the end of the tunnel. it was to address this, the american public opinion that had basically lost confidence in lbj and really just wanted the war to be over and the united states to get out. what you see after tet is that the opinion goes back to that, that the public relations campaign listed the numbers and numbers for a while and tet brought them back to say october or november, so it did not alter american opinion as it returned it to where it had been a year before. people were saying there is no end in sight and wepeople were o can't get out. does that answer your question? >> walter cronkite, we have to mention him because he was one of the stalwarts. americans were shocked, or he was certainly shocked, that they attacked the u.s. embassy in the middle of the night. how can they do that? for other reasons you say it was not as effective. but it was that shock, and it was how cronkite in the days of today when we ha

andight until we get lbj the civil rights act we begin to see major change.rian: i have to tell you what i wrote down at the top when i started reading your book. how often did he take to his bed because of tension? it seems like i read it so often in here. give us some other examples where he would go for bed -- go to bed for days. patricia: it would be announced the president had the flu. other -- i should have done a count, i did not do account. seriouswas in a very situation, it was a common response. it doesn't happen every time. curiously, in the summer of 1915, right after the lusitania was sunk, he was madly in love with the woman who would become his second wife, and they were terrible things happening, american neutrality, people are wondering how long can we keep this up in the face of these submarine attacks, and he is fine because he is swept up in love. it is not that he is not paying attention to what is happening in the world. it depends also on what is going on. the hardest decision he ever had to make was to take the united states into the w

you know, lbj. stop already. >> i don't think -- do you think president kennedy should have resigned? do you believe president johnson should have resigned. someone should ask you these questions because of the way you formulate the questions. i dealt with it 20 years ago plus, and the american people, 2/3 of themyed with me. and i've tried to do a good job since then with my life and with my work. that's all i have to say. >> craig melvin joins me now. craig, an amazing interview. first of all, what was going through your mind? a lot of us have been in the situation with the former president where when he gets angry, he gets angry, and boy, he unloaded. but you asked him whether he had second thoughts about it, now that things have changed. sgsz rig >> right. and the idea was to ask the president in light of the me too movement, whether there was anything that he would have done differently today. and the president essentially saying no. you know, when the interview wrapped up, he and i did have an

was in the senate under city and governor, and lbj was from the same thing when he took the oath of office and did they take the serious corrective measures to avoid after that?ing >> host: thank you, mike. >> guest: it i' interesting yourself in the position that was happening at the time is lucky with myy other book that i got to know the social security for lyndon johnson's during my book on the first ladies and she talked about coming into office with a white house was draped in black fabric and there was no inaugural celebration and there was this heavy, dark cloud and it was a difficult time and they were worried on the planes they described in the book that they cut the engine and the ordered everyone to put the windows down so that no one could see into the plane and they were concerned that this is part of a larger conspiracy and jackie kennedy will point said she wisheded that it had been part f a larger conspiracy. of course, the verdict is still out andal people still discuss e harvey oswald and all that but the idea that her husband died because of one man was upsetting

and it is lbj-like. are jordan and others on the committee and perhaps members of leadership coordinating with the white house to ultimately create a moment where they either pass this resolution in the next two to three weeks finding in contempt rod rosenstein, or do they move to impeach him? and the only reason they would do that -- you know, we could say, hey, this is just the republican crazies in congress doing this. but they actually would do it for the specific reason of giving the president of the united states ammo to actually have him fired. if donald trump can say that rod rosenstein has now been found in contempt of congress and therefore i am dismissing him, now he has the opportunity to control the mueller investigation by appointing somebody under donald trump's control who takes a loyalty pledge, who ultimately dismisses the mueller investigation. i am very suspicious that that's actually what we're seeing go on right now in congress. this is one of the early chapters, but it's going to b

if they had to pick a player in these nba playoffs, that would win the best actor award, would it be lbj, they said tonight, james harden may be the runner up. you can see more of that interview on abc 7.com and yeah, there's sure to be more celebrities sitting courtside on sunday for game two. especially after the way this one ended. >> for sure, mindi, thanks a lot of. >>, so will that game be just as dramatic. the fans were on the edge of their seats watching this game much. >> it was an incredible night many. we are live outside the oracle arena. >> reporter: it's actually kind of erie, this is the why estimate -- it's the quietest it's been all day long. i seem to have lost my voice from screaming and yelling so much, because of the great epic overtime win. what a great way to start the series. there they go, take a look at the fans that were on pins and needles during the final few minutes tonight. some of them wanted to beat the traffic and get out of here early. but just could not turn away from the dramatic match-up. we caught up with relieved and elated fans. >> that was a good

he also covered the jfk assassination and served as senior white house correspondent during the lbj and nixon years. later he became a media consultant to the stars and titans of industry. richard was 85 years old. >>> we'll take a turn to the explosive sight caught on camera in florida when two cooling towers, over 450 each high, were imploded at a power plant this weekend. the towers stood for some 30 years, but it only took 12 seconds and 1,500 pounds of dynamite to bring them down. >>> "incredibles 2" is raking in big bucks at the box office, breaking records. viewers are also being warned about concern over possible seizures. some fans complained on social media about certain scenes with flashing lights that could trigger seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy. there are no reports of widespread issues, but the theaters are issuing the warning as an extra precaution. >>> we'll take a short break. we'll come back in a moment with some final thoughts on the crisis boiling over here at the border. and she sat in a cell for 7 months. the surprise outside the courthouse that se

let's talk about lbj. stop already. >> i don't think yo you- you- think president kennedy should have resigned? do you believe president johnson should have resigned? someone should ask you these questions because of the way you formulate the questions. i dealt with it 20 years ago plus and the american people, two-thirds of them stayed with me and i've tried to do a good job since then with my life and with my work. that's all i have to say to you. >> president clinton with our craig melvin. you can see much more of that interview on nbcnews.com. >>> there is good news tonight from maine where former president george h.w. bush has been released from the hospital after more than a week. the 93-year-old bush was treated for low blood pressure and fatigue. the spokesman says he's back to his old self and looking forward to spending the summer with family and friends. >>> we'll take a turn the now former officer who was armed and on campus during the high school massacre in parkland, florida is breaking his s

let's talk about -- you know, lbj. stop already. >> reporter: today on twitter, lewinsky thanked "the myriad people who have helped her evolve and gain perspective." and she linked to her recent essay in "vanity fair" where she calls her relationship with the former president "a gross abuse of power." >> lewinsky taking responsibility, as you say, for her part in that moment. and cecilia vega at the white house tonight, as well. cecilia, president clinton was also asked about the me too movement in general, he called it, quote, long overdue. >> reporter: yeah, david. he says he likes the me too movement, but that he doesn't always agree with everything in it. but you saw the former president there in those clips, he is clearly very frustrated by the fact that this me too movement has reignited questions about his 20-year-old scandal. david, questions that probably are not going away any time soon. >> all right, cecilia vega with us on and mo night. thank you. >>> next, to that fbi agent under fire after that dance move

let's talk about, you know, lbj. stop already. >> i don't think -- you think president kennedy should have resigned? do you believe president johnson should have resigned? someone should ask you these questions because of the way you formulate the questions. i dealt with it 20 years ago plus, and the american people, two-thirds of them stayed with me, and i've tried to do a good job since then with my life and with my work. that's all i have to say to you. >>> california congresswoman barbara lee seemed a bit surprised to learn president clinton doesn't think he should have handled the scandal differently. she sat down today with our investigative reporter. >> i would think anyone who was impeached would want to handle something differently. >> he has obviously apologized publicly, but he's never actually apologize to monica lewinsky directly. do you think he owes her that? >> i think people owe others apologies when they have, you know, engaged in acts that are offensive and, in many ways wrong, and that have harmed

let's talk about -- you know, lbj.top already. >> i don't think -- you think president kennedy should have resigned? do you believe president johnson should have resigned? someone should ask you these questions because of the way you formulate the questions. i dealt with it 20 years ago plus, and the american people, two-thirds of them stayed with me. and i've tried to do a good job since then with my life and with my that's all have say to you. that was nbc's craig melvin. >>> we are exactly one week away from president fe to face meeting with north korea's kim jong-un. we will take you to singapore for a preview next. only belo. child: bye, grandpa! and if you have heart failure, entrusting your heart to entresto may help. entresto is a heart failure medicine that helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body. in the largest heart failure study ever, entresto was proven superior at helping people stay alive compared to a leading heart failure medicine. don't take entresto if pregnant. it can cause harm

more popular than lbj. publicly ineclined 1964 to use and shift the republican nomination to the person that he favored, the governor of pennsylvania. but once goldwater was nominated, he made it clear he supported goldwater and would stick with goldwater, even as he privately anticipated goldwater would lose. on november 5, eisenhower then reclaims his role as the titular leader of the republican party and he released a statement to the press and what he does is he reminds republicans across the nation that the party had been quote hurt, but not irretrievably. republicans, he said, have been unfairly tagged in the presidential election as the appearance of the party of the rich and the privileged. it is time, he said, to remind ourselves and the country that we are the party of abraham lincoln. he expanded. republicans, he said, were the party that were true to lincoln's views on humanity, liberty, dignity, equality. histrive to emulate commonsense approach to the nation's political and economic problems.

. >> this is lbj's position, not lawrence jones.e is a lot of companies getting into the culinary business because it's a product you can cook with so that's what i'm into. kennedy: you are more on the edible side. >> most of definitely. kennedy: an entire generation of people coming of age, they will incorporate it into their casual life. >> the president is against opioids. kennedy: how far behind is the united states? kat: very far behind because of jeff sessions. i just don't understand. you know what i need to do? i have got to stop all those people from smoking weed. people want to smoke weed and do drugs. its ever it's your own body, keeping up with the kardashians is legal. kennedy: the sugar, simple cashh high draits and maple bacon bar. >> legalize it all. >> i will tell you one person who inspired me will remain nameless. she is a cancer survivor who lives in oregon who confessed she got her green card so they can go to the new pharmacy and find some relief from some of her symptoms. well done woman who may or may not hav

. >> lbj feels confident to move forward.hat north neat vietnam has asked for has been met. so, four-party peace talks, will happen. well in saigon november 1st, the president stands up and drops his major bombshell. >> translator: south vietnam cannot participate in the negotiations. >> i have no more things to tell you. >> embarrassment is commonly today among americans here in vietnam particularly those of us who have acquaintances among the vietnamese. we find ourselves apologizing. >> once we heard the means were not aboard, i said let this play out, when the south vietnam thing breaks it's going to look like johnson didn't have all his ducks in a row and it's as political as can be. >> i think president johnson wen into this bombing clause with the very best intentions. i think the reason the ducks were not in a row is he was relying on an old team. a team of well-intentioned men but they're tired. i think we need a new team. a new team that won't make these mistakes. which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key in

five-day mark, all the way back to harry truman, how they stood in their own party. 77% still supported lbj. look at donald trump. only george w. bush had greater support within his own party at the 500-day mark. george w. bush was in the days and months after 9/11. 80% of republicans approve of president trump. that's why other republicans are afraid to cross him. republican voters like this president and support this president. as to the cult issue, that's more complicated. think more of a shotgun wedding or a family feud. these are all republicans. this is nbc "wall street journal" data, republicans who say they are republicans because they support president trump and republicans who say they are republicans because they are traditional. should we continue the daca program? only 15% of the president's supporters in the party say they should. end daca. half of the supporters in the party because of president trump say end daca. only 26% of traditional republicans say that. that's why you have a divide over immigration. climate change. only 5% of trump supporters say there should be immedi

let's talk about lbj. stop already. >> laura: stop already? is that the name of one of his new books? is some of harvey weinstein's crimes take place ears ago, did they not? forgive and forget all those egregious assaults against women as well? bill clinton red-faced and indignant refused to give an inch. >> do you think president kennedy -- do you e president should've resigned? i promised to do a good job since then with my life and my work. that's all i have to say. >> laura: i like how he tried to turn the tables on the reporter. bill, he's the reporter. he doesn't have to answer the question to reconcile with his public path. you do. even clinton's own party at this point, they just wants him to go away. this is the ruined path of the party confronting its pathetic dent. because, like clinton, the democrats refused to learn the lessons of the past. despite the previous embrace of sexual creditors from weinstein to spacey, the democrats have arrested a #metoo movement and created a political infrastructure they hope will deliver fe voters

of 1965 thatuly lbj made the decision to start sending a massive buildup. your role the state department in vietnam? james: my assignment was to the consulate. we had a small post to there. basically as a political reporting officer, i traveled throughout ichor. visiting each of the provinces and assessing how the war was going after the insurgency was going. reports back to the embassy in saigon and eventually to washington. she was working at the time as one of our foreign service nationals, locally engaged personnel. that's where we met when i arrived. >> how to become a foreign service national? tuy-cam: before that, i was working for the public health division as a nurse. for about six months, we traveled a lot. i didn't like it. as soon as i heard from a friend of ours who became very good a vacancy ate was the u.s. consulate. they are looking for a translator and an interpreter. i applied for it and i got it. then i started working there. >> how did you like the job initially? tuy-cam: it was a very nice job. i was the only girl there. a receptionist

now about everything my husband did for jfk, for bobby kennedy, more importantly for the country, for lbj having that out there, it's everything i care about. it's how a person lives on after they're gone. so it meant everything, and i'm so glad to share it with you tonight. >> well, we're grieving with you. as i tried to point out that night, he helped so many americans who never knew his name or never got to meet him, and that's, i think, the measure -- >> he was the best. >> -- of a life well lived. let's talk about pardons. let's talk about this president, who your husband did not serve and had his own opinions about. where is the business of pardoning versus where you know it from the standpoint of a historian, the standpoint of the brilliant framers who gave this all to us in parchment? >> well, what makes me so sad about these pardons right now is when you look at the pardons that mattered in history, they often meant forgiveness or healing for the country. the first pardon of george washington was for the members of the whiskey rebellion because they were considered traitors. they

looking back, the fact that lbj was in the same city, and governor connally was in the , and lbj was on the same plane when he took the oath of office. did they take serious corrective measures to avoid the same thing after? thank you. interesting putting yourself in the position of what was happening at the time. i was lucky with my other book about the first lady, total meat lady bird johnson's social secretary. to come to the office where the white house is draped in black fabric. there was no inaugural celebration, obviously. a heavy, dark cloud. they were worried on the plane -- they cut the engine, ordered everyone to put the windows down so nobody could see into the plane. they were concerned this was part of a larger conspiracy. jackie kennedy said she almost wished it had been part of a larger conspiracy. the verdict is still out, of course. people still discussed lee harvey oswald. but the idea that her husband would die because of one man was very upsetting to her. that whenohnson jokes jfk was president, i feel like a raisin hovering over his shoulder. raven hovering over

let's talk about jfk, let's talk about -- lbj, stop already. >> i don't think -- do you think president kennedy should have resigned or believe president johnson should resign. someone should ask you the questions the way you formulate the questions. i dealt with it 20 years ago plus and the american people, two-thirds stayed with me and i tried to do a good job since then with my life and with my work. >> and you can see the former president later in month. clinton and author james patterson will talk at the sap center on june 28th. >>> take a look at this badly mangled car. the driver behind the wheel did not survive this crash. the chp said a woman was driving the wrong way on interstate 680 around 1:30 this morning when it happened. she struck the median just north of la vorna road and all lanes reopened this morning. >>> a weekend at the el cerrito b.a.r.t. station and one man is in custody and another in the hospital. this is after a stabbing. this happened on saturday night and police say 50-year-old carl johnson stabbed another man in the stomach. it is not clear what led up to

been through lbj in vietnam and watergate and all of these other things, but in this case, the sheer brazenness -- it just gets back to the whole issue of democracy versus ctatorip. what really makes a dictator is the ability to redefine reality, right? and his that trump aides like sarah and his lawyers can come out and just state and yblatant untruths wake up the next day and nothing has changed, you know, the more dangerous our situation becomes. amy: we have been doing a lot of reflecting back 50 years later a 1968. well, not quite 50 years, maybe more like 41 years. but it was after nixon resigned. the e famous interview that he d with david frost. that it is in the best interest t of the nation or something and do sometething illegal? >> when the president does it, that means it is not illegegal. >>>> by definition. >> exactly. amy: that was nixon aftfter he resigned in 1977. can you compare nixon and trump? >> absolutely. i came of age during watergate. that is kind of wh many want to go into journalism as a young man. of o of e lesss s supposededly watergate was that we prove

let's talk about jfk, let's talk about lbj. stop already. >> okay. >> yeah. that's also interesting. >> what? what part? >> just this -- what he just said. i don't think -- you think president kennedy should have resigned? do you believe president johnson should have resigned? >> mr. president -- >> someone should? you these questions because of the way you formulate the questions? >> again is, senator gillibrand raced the issue, during the #metoo movement. >> you're asking it now. >> but when you filter the question back to me, there was a -- a stunning article by a conservative woman that didn't even like me in the -- "new york daily news" which had more facts about what happened 20 years ago than anyone i've -- and she said, we should not cheapen victimhood, and -- so you just draw your own conclusions. i dealt with it 20 years ago plus, and the american people, two-thirds of them stayed with me, and i have tried to -- do a good job since then wili and with my work. that's all i have to say to you. >> with me now, ruth marcus, "washington post" columnist,

the fit person i want to get in my site is lbj standing for lyndon b. johnson johnson, the present. the supreme court said no, that hyperbolic political speech, johnson would not have been in reasonable fear that he would've been shot and this is a very strong powerful way to express of frustration with the legal system. >> and a political message. fascinating stuff to me. susan, how hard does it affect you as a woman of color with drug abuse and how hard was it for you to get your voice heard? i went to hearings in sacramento and it felt like we were talking to the wall. >> yes, when i did get stronger and began to understand the law and how those laws were impacting my entire community i began to go to sacramento and began to talk to legislators and speak out and i'd sit there and watch them passing laws regardless to myestimony laws that i knew would be harmful especially laws around young people. it seems like i was talking to deaf ears. for a period of time i would leave sacramento in the next day my entire body would be in knots and i could hardly move. i elected to stop going