lbj, you know, we have all seen those photographs of lbj corralling legislatures with the finger-pointingnd that very intimidating style, and that was pretty much his style with the press as well. he felt like you were either for him or against him. he was not below calling your boss if the boss was president of the network, if a story you had done did not please him. so he is trying to work both sides of it, trying to be friends with reporters as well as the powerful moguls who run the various broadcasting companies and newspapers at the time, but you can see where that doesn't play very well if you are a reporter on the beat, that he's going to call fred friendly at cbs if you do a story that displeases him. which he did to morley safer when morley safer did a famous report out of vietnam that showed marines using lighters to torch civilian villages. of course, there were multiple sides to that story. those televised images being seen on the evening news horrified americans as well as lbj, and he called the head of the network to complain about it. susan: at this point in time, the thre

. >> i'm intrigued by lbj's decision not to run. i think the conventional wisdom at the time was simply that. he read the writing on the wall and he backed out. but he was only 60 years old and in pretty poor health. so i am wondering whether you are able to nail down what his ultimate plan really was because it wasbeen said that expected if he had run, he would not have lived through a second term because of his health. i don't even think he filed in new hampshire. in ork he won in a right had some surrogate run in his place? lawrence: they didn't file anywhere because no one was going to challenge them, what would happen? all of the primary side would be on the republican side. ladybird used to say lbj had his resignation letter in his pocket all the time. every job he ever had. he was kind of a quitter. he actually was. there were times when he was ready to give up on certain things in his career including the senate campaign, and it was ladybird who had gave him the strength to keep him in it. he stayed in because bobby got in.

you talked about the credibility gap lbj had with the american people and the press.at phrase would really come to haunt him. again, we see the things happening in society, changes with the counterculture. people no longer trusting the government. they lied to us about the vietnam war. 55,000 people are dead in this country because of that, and they have lied to us about this. television news showing images of the war, there were images, the korean war was on television a bit, but each week, the drumbeat of these numbers of casualties in vietnam, it takes a toll on the american public. the images that they see and the fact that it is not going well, and they do not understand why we are there in the first place leads to lbj deciding he will not run for reelection. susan: let's move to more current times. earlier, you made reference to the public in the wartime the willing to give up their rights, especially to the freedom of speech. would you talk about the aftermath of 9/11 and what happened in this country with the american public, and the willingness to trade some

it is a situation lbj would have recognized. there is tremendous value to the oral histories and i would recommend you to read and buy the book. it is an incredible piece of scholarship and primary source for historians that will be of use for future generations. i will certainly come back to these oral histories again and again, that we have to remember that they are only part of the story, not the whole story. thank you. [applause] >>alright, i and my temporary chair have lots of questions and little time and there might be a number of questions from the audience, perhaps from some of our previous panelists. i will defend just dispense with the four pages of potential comments and questions, and i to thet one question other panelists, which you can take in any number of directions because this may or may not elaborate on the number of themes that came up. after this, we will turn it over to the audience. two historical episodes were mentioned and focused on by a couple of you in the chapters, particularly in eisenhower and vie

mark updegrove is the president and ceo of the lbj foundation. be with you. >> enacted the very controversial positions on race and segregation, and tell me what the impact was on the direction of the gop and both during and after that 1964 election. >> well, essentially with barry goldwater's candidacy, you are sowing the seeds of the modern republican movement. it ended up being a quixotic effort on his part, and he knew that going into it, and he knew that he didn't have much of a chance of beating lyndon johnson despite the fact that lyndon johnson had alienated southern democrats by supporting the civil rights act of 1964, but goldwater was convinced even though it was a losing cause that he should do it in order to make the point of view about libertarianism and limited government known to the american people, but ultimately lyndon johnson wins in a landslide and the biggest point in history to that point by garnering 61% of the popular vote. >> johnson was set on winning and he wanted to win by a landslide and he resorted to tactics like a

. >> one of the smartest things that kennedy did was to make lbj his running mate.nd he needed southern votes. and lbj was able to deliver texas. >> let me say first that i accept the nomination of the democratic party. the republican nominee, of course, is a young man, but his party is the party of the past. >> nixon was watching kennedy's acceptance speech, and he thought it was weak. he thought kennedy came across as being privileged and effeminate, not that good on tv and nixon thought to himself, i can beat him. >> richard nixon. >> 12 days later an unopposed richard nixon secures the republican nomination. >> thank you. >> when mr. khrushchev says our grandchildren will live under communism, let us say his grandchildren will live in freedom. >> nixon's speech fires the opening shot of the election. the race for the white house is on. ♪ kennedy kennedy kennedy ♪ kennedy for me ♪ kennedy ♪ kennedy >> the kennedys do what kennedys do best, spend money. >> it was called the jingle ad. every product was sold with a jingle, so why not a candidate? ♪ it's up to you ♪

so this shows the bill signing ceremony with lbj, several dozen members of congress and their wives.hey are in jersey city at the foot of the statue of liberty. he flew all of these lawmakers up to new jersey to show the importance of this immigration law and it also shows that lbj and that we will no longer discriminate rather what they can bring to the united states. the us is recommitting itself to immigration. this is the main understanding and framework of the past 50 years that this law was the law that ended at all and now we do not have discrimination and now it must be a thing of the past. the compromises that were made but also the consequences i found a very different story. the liberal and conservative lawmakers expect a commitment to civil rights and racial equality talking about passing this law. also used terms of black and brown immigrants flooding into the country and displacing whites and the one that was majority white. then for that not to change of reverse discrimination so the issue at hand how to reframe immigration not from national origin but treating every c

historian and author, who has written best-sellers about both roosevelts, kennedys, lbj, lincoln forrian and author, who has written best-sellers about both roosevelts, kennedys, lbj, lincoln for starters. her latest work is "leadership in turbulent times," hear, hear. she also happens to be executive producer of this three-part miniseries "washington," about our nation's first president. narrated by jeff daniels, it premieres sunday night, 8:00 p.m. eastern on the history channel. doris, first of all, it's great to see you. >> oh, thank you. i'm glad to be with you. >> secondly, what are we apt to learn? what's a mass audience apt to learn about this guy that we haven't been told in american folklore, and what will people's minds do when they necessarily compare it to our times? >> i think the most important thing is what you said. it's the arc of his life. so you see him as a young man. he makes mistakes. he has losses. he suffers adversity. but the most important thing is his ability to grow. he learns from his mistake. he surrounds himself with people, a team, almost the original

just said that you think joe biden lilly the most progressive president since the company have between lbj more of a centralist candidate in that party the party has moved significantly to the left such as medicare for all, education, support public education. maybe issues of illegal immigration and a whole range of issues. the party has moved it left. whitey think that is? >> i think it is frankly the democratic party has always had a left. and i think that's positive not negative. it shows that we have a broad sense. the question is who'd you think we'll get things done. as i said earlier you can have a progressive candidate but you need a progressive president. and i believe that where we are in the country today, is a very tough time. it's not about class, it is about class, but it's not about class is about deeper things. when i see donald trump plays to our most negative emotions. fear, hate, anger. and joe biden plays to very positive emotions and positive traits, like aspiration and collective carrying, and personal responsibility. so it's not just simply about the numbers in a tax

victoria defrancesco soto, assistant dean at the lbj school of public affairs at ut austin. lawrence o'donnell, host of "the last word" 10:00 p.m. week nights here on this network. and james carville, veteran democratic strategist who rose to national fame with the clinton presidential campaign, co-host of the 2020 politics war room podcast. at the big board as always for us tonight, our national political correspondent steve kornacki. okay, james. you're the newcomer to this table. i know voters' number one and two priorities are the debate over the filibuster and fidel castro. >> don't forget the boyfriend exemption. we can't let that go by. >> i want to get your take on the two hours of television you witnessed tonight. >> the first thing i is i watched the debate -- i'm watching this debate through the lens of a south carolina democrat. if i do that, joe biden won that debate. he was relevant. he kept coming back to his time with obama, who was very popular among south carolina democrats. he was up against the wall. he's got to win saturday, and i thought he had the kind

mccarthy did not beat lbj, expectations game.: on the republican side, that was john mccain's second attempt at the white house. he won over mitt romney in 2008. a sentence or two about john mccain's legacy in presidential politics? joseph: i think his legacy is bigger than presidential politics. i think mccain is one of the real heroes of this country for the ages, in many ways. like pat, although they did not agree on a lot of political stuff, but a straight shooter. he was not a politician in that sense. he called them as he saw them, and his service in vietnam is just extraordinary. he was invited to leave the cage, and he wouldn't do it. he said, first ones in, first ones out. and he was junior to a lot of other captives. and he came back here, and he, in new hampshire, came back from next to zip. no staff, no poll numbers, on the ground convinced people. and you could see it in their eyes that they bought his campaign because he was telling the truth. and i gave him a penny. yeah i read that he was , superstitious, and i fo

hearing in even got to the point that jerry and another one of the woman pilots got a meeting with lbj when he was vice president. i have never heard of the letter before. it is like that handwritten signature. you can just pick it up. i love history. thank you so much for your nice letter in the enclosure. it's fun to see how we have a good time with jerry cobb. it kinda says a lot doesn't it. so between all of these letters and even letters from the women that i was able to find no one agreed on what this program was supposed to be. everybody wanted it to be something different largely for self serving purposes. it became this really interesting thing. why was this program it looked like it was can happen. they were to go through some simulation testing. and no one would take responsibility for it. i can give away the actual energy for it. exactly where the thread went. why it became such a big deal and how it became an epic method of he said she said. the questions i will leave you with in the hopes that you will be curious enough to actually read it was jerry's dream actually reali

hearing in even got to the point that jerry and another one of the woman pilots got a meeting with lbj when he was vice president. i have never heard of the letter before. it is like that handwritten signature. you can just pick it up. i love history. thank you so much for your nice letter in the enclosure. it's fun to see how we have a good time with jerry cobb. it kinda says a lot doesn't it. so between all of these letters and even letters from the women that i was able to find no one agreed on what this program was supposed to be. everybody wanted it to be something different largely for self serving purposes. it became this really interesting thing. why was this program it looked like it was can happen. they were to go through some simulation testing. and no one would take responsibility for it. i can give away the actual energy for it. exactly where the thread went. why it became such a big deal and how it became an epic method of he said she said. the questions i will leave you with in the hopes that you will be curious enough to actually read it was jerry's dream actually reali

mark: by kennedy, lbyd -- lbj, nixon. they talk about nixon.as it not franklin owes velt who used the irs against publishers? >> yes. the irs was an effective weapon that he used answer andrew mellon. the tax rate cuts contributed to the prosperity of the 1920s. roosevelt wanted the high tax rates and lifted those tax rates, ultimately to 4 -- ultimately to 94%. he had a 94% on all income over $200,000 was law when roosevelt died. mark: when we come back i want to discuss the abuse of power and the massive leviathan that roosevelt built. and how it leads to police state tactics. post constitutional governance. don't forget, most week needs you can watch me on levintv. go to blaze tv/mark to sign up. or call 844-levintv. we are the thrivers. women with metastatic breast cancer standing in the struggle. hustling through the hurt. asking for science not sorrys. our time for more time - has come. living longer is possible and proven in women taking kisqali plus fulvestrant or a nonsteroidal aromatase inhibitor. kisqali is the only treatment in its

not unprecedented mind you, that was the decision lbj ultimately arrived at. but i would not want to consider that a meaningful limitation on presidential power and neither should you. finally, counsel expressed in dignan's that we should suggest it's not just the senate or the president but also the senate. how dare the house manager suggest that your decision should reflect on this body so let me read you a statement made by one of your former colleagues. this is what former us senator john warner republican of virginia had to say. and those two try their best to understand the complex impeachment issues deliberated in the u.s. senate and are central to the matter shed the senate allow additional sworn testimony with firsthand knowledge with those documents cracks and as the presidential impeachment trial i am mindful of the difficult responsibilities that they now shoulder. not only is the president on trial but so is the senate itself. as such i am strongly supportive of the efforts of my former republican senate colleagues who are considering that the sen

mark: by kennedy, lbyd -- lbj, nixon. they talk about nixon. it not franklin owes velt who used the irs against publishers? >> yes. the irs was an effective weapon that he used answer andrew mellon. the tax rate cuts contributed to the prosperity of the 1920s. roosevelt wanted the high tax rates and lifted those tax rates, ultimately to 4 -- ultimately to 94%. he had a 94% on all income over $200,000 was law when roosevelt died. mark: when we come back i want to discuss the abuse of power and the massive leviathan that roosevelt built. and how it leads to police state tactics. post constitutional governance. don't forget, most week needs you can watch me on levintv. go to blaze tv/mark to sign up. or call 844-levintv. ere you areu take a picture of the cake to put on our website? i mean i would have but i'm a commercial vehicle so i don't have hands... or a camera...or a website. should we franchise? is the market ready for that? can we franchise? how do you do that? meg! oh meg! we should do that thing where you put the business cards in the f

it is not unprecedented, that is the decision lbj arrived at. but i would not want to consider that a meaningful limitation on presidential power. and neither should you. finally, council expressed some indignant's that we should suggest that it's not just the senate or the president who is on trial but also the senate. how dare the house manager suggest your decision should reflect on this body. let me read you a statement this is what the republican virginia had to say as conscientious citizens from all walks of life are trying their best to understand the complex impeachment issues in the u.s. senate the rules of evidence are central to the matter to allow additional sworn testimony with firsthand knowledge to include relevant documents. as a lifelong republican and retired member of the senate serving as a juror in the impeachment trial i am mindful of the difficultal responsibilities. i believe it not only is the president on child but in many ways the senate itself. i am strongly supportive of my former colleagues that are considering the

the state of the union, senators, their spouses, and special guests from their state gather in the lbjin the senate side of the capital and we have dinner together. fancy, justg chicken pot pie, asparagus, and that kind of thing. the mood and the spirit at that dinner before the speech was everything you would hope for from your elected officials. democrats,ether, republicans, and spouses, they were welcoming to one another. i have been privileged to hear state of the union addresses from ronald reagan, bill clinton, george w. bush, and barack obama. i have heard a lot of them. one of the things they had in common was that the presidents who made those speeches did so in a way to unite our country and the people, not to live. and i hope someday that this president will emulate the behavior of some of the earlier presidents. i remember when ronald reagan was giving state of the union addresses, the speaker was a liberal democrat. they were friends, and tip o'neill used to say just because someone is your adversary does not mean that they have to be your enemy. they worked together on a

not unprecedented, i think that was a decision that lbj ultimately arrived at but i would not want to consider that a meaningful limitation on presidential power. and neither should you. finally, the council expressed some indignant that we should suggest that it is not just the senate, it is not just thede president rather who is on trial but also the senate. how dare the house manager suggest that your decision should reflect on this body. that is just such a calumny. let me redo the statement made by one of your former colleagues. this is what former u.s. senator john warner are republican of virginia had to say. as conscientious citizens from all walks of life are trying their best to understand the complex impeachment issues now being deliberated in the u.s. senate, the rules of evidence are central to the matter, should the senate allow additional sworn testimony from fact witnesses with firsthand knowledge and include relevant documents, he asks. as a lifelong republican and a retired member of the u.s. senate, who once served as a juror and a presidential impeachment trial, i

in the modern era, it started after dwight eisenhower took over and then it was lbj, the worst president think we have ever had. nixon was worse than he was. >> when you started talking about the likability factor or the truth telling factor or the effectiveness, what is the most important quality in your mind? caller: my opinion and i know it sounds strange, it is likability. i voted for george and laura twice because they were likable as opposed to the other people. i voted for reagan twice. i voted for barack obama and michelle twice. the bottom line of this story is if i don't like someone personally, that is my to votece and i choose for someone that has qualities i think are honest and truthful for me. subjective is a opinion and has nothing to do with helping the economy or protect our country. our country is based on a wartime economy. without war, that -- we would fail. the german parlance, we are only happy at war or rebuilding. host: you and others might be interested in looking at c-span's historian survey of the president. at last came out in 2017 ranking all the past presid

the great air force hero, didn't like the way the vietnam wars with being operated, so he went after lbjyou know, these type of things, mcchrystal once took a swipe at vice president joe biden, and got himself in hot water for that. what is unique here, these are people that know donald trump well, saying he's unfit for command. mccraven is the great -- gre greatest navy s.e.a.l. in u.s. hftry a r history and he's saying i'm embarra embarrassed. so with all of these gentlemen having in common is they're defending the armed forces over donald trump's crazy tweets and attacks on people like colonel vindman. >> they're doing more than that, are they not as well. they're talking, you say, about competence and character, that the character of the man, in very strong definitive terms, that, i mean, you talk about for instance, la may during the vietnam war, that was with the carrying out of the war, here you have a series of commanders questioning fitness for office here. >> couldn't agree with you more. i mean, admiral stockdale, ran with ross perot, they wanted to get attention to the p.o.w.

another example might be telling the story of the passage of the civil rights act and talking about lbj and martin luther king. both are independently important. both were critical but in different ways. and so, this was that sort of partnership. now, while why i picked on this? well, when i think about it, there were probably three ideas floating around in my head. one, i started out as a scholar of leadership study. i studied under james mcgregor burns, the founder of leadership studies, and i'm interested in leadership studies. and, here you had two legendary leaders, legendary leaders who brought the country together, a country that was divided into 13 states in a vast frontier, states that do not trust each other, yet, these people were so above that they were national heroes. think of, i taught at university of georgia, the college that you teach at undergrad is franklin college. named for benjamin franklin in tennessee was originally named franklin when it first applied to join the union. most states have a franklin county. most states also have a washington county and indeed one

leader abrams received a degree from spellman college, the lbj school of public affairs at the university of texas and yale law school. please join me as we welcome to our school, our speaker for the evening, leader stacey abrams. [applause] leader stacey abrams. [applause] ms. abrams: thank you. i would say you look good, but i can see almost nothing. [laughter] ms. abrams: but you feel good, so thank you. much for the honor of being here today. to speak about not only the legacy of dr. king, but the future of his dream. my favorite speech by dr. king is not the i have a dream speech. my favorite speech was when he delivered on mother's day in 1966 in south carolina. it was a speech called "march on ballot boxes." yes,s a speech that said, we achieved a specific goal of getting the right to vote after centuries of trying. 15th and 16th amendment was made real through the voting rights act of 1965. and yet, the power was not real. the capacity to change our lives was not real unless we marched on ballot boxes. boxes was aballot phrase i did not learn until a few years ago. i havebeen an e

another example might be telling the story of the passage of the civil rights act and talking about lbj and martin luther king. both are independently important. both were critical but in different ways. and so, this was that sort of partnership. now, while why i picked on this? well, when i think about it, there were probably three ideas floating around in my head. one, i started out as a scholar of leadership study. i studied under james mcgregor burns, the founder of leadership studies, and i'm interested in leadership studies. and, here you had two legendary leaders, legendary leaders who brought the country together, a country that was divided into 13 states in a vast frontier, states that do not trust each other, yet, these people were so above that they were national heroes. think of, i taught at university of georgia, the college that you teach at undergrad is franklin college. named for benjamin franklin in tennessee was originally named franklin when it first applied to join the union. most states have a franklin county. most states also have a washington county and indeed one

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victoria defrancesco soto, assistant dean and professor at lbj school of public affairs at ut austin. and eddie glaude, jr. steph rule is back with us. host of the 9:00 a.m. hour week mornings here on msnbc. and our nbc news senior business correspondent, i'll have you know. at the big board yet again tonight our national political correspondent steve kornacki. welcome to you all. stephanie, a rhetorical question. your opinion on the cass -- castro lit rassy program? are they talking about the right issues. >> not if they want to get a single -- it's unclear why -- voter in the state of florida. you're going deep on fidel castro. you mentioned it in the last hour. coronavirus. it's unclear to me why coronavirus was not brought up front and center. we're on the verge of this being a public health crisis. but even before if you want to talk -- the president talks he's got the greatest economy ever and how much he loves the stock market. let's talk about the $1 trillion that was lost in stock market value in the last two days. it's not just about money. it's about the fact that our white

secondly, let's not forget the last time white man voted for the president of the united states was lbjmocrats actually need this winning coalition in order for them to move forward and it's just definitely women and people of color. and young people. >> all right. thank you both so much. >>> coming up in the next hour, west virginia democrat senator manchin will be here to respond after president trump blasted him as weak and pathetic for voting to impeach. that and more as we continue live from manchester, new hampshire. e continue live from manchester, new hampshire. right here. and when it snows, the kids go sledding right there. the frels family runs with us on a john deere 1 series tractor. because this is more than just land, it's home. search "john deere 1 series" for more. and that was all you knew, would you really understand it, with just that point of view? we've got a different way to look at it, from right here on the ground. we don't just the united states we see united towns. we're grateful for what you bring, and all the sparks you've shown, in the thousands of towns th

>> of course it is a tough fight. 1966 midterm elections for lbj, the economy was going well still, butbility in him. in the vietnam war and it was heating up here they lost midterms. but that is unusual when it happens. so we will have to see. but i still say things are still so jittery in this country right now. things change, breaking news happens, something could happen between now and then and it could be a policy -- foreign policy event. >> neil: what about this environment and you've already heard about the stuff going to town on the gay issue. but is this country ready to elect that kind of person? >> that is the interesting thing, when we worry about where we have come is for social justice and economic justice, overwhelming majority say yes we have a black american and yes we have a woman but we have 90% that say yes. and it's like 78% or 80% that say we will take a gay man. i don't know how that will play out but the more troubling thing whether people feel he has enough experience from south bend, indiana, in the small city. >> neil: and you are right, that is the kind of st

just said that you think joe biden lilly the most progressive president since the company have between lbje of a centralist candidate in that party the party has moved significantly to the left such as medicare for all, education, support public education. maybe issues of illegal immigration and a whole range of issues. the party has moved it left. whitey think that is? >> i think it is frankly the democratic party has always had a left. and i think that's positive not negative. it shows that we have a broad sense. the question is who'd you think we'll get things done. as i said earlier you can have a progressive candidate but you need a progressive president. and i believe that where we are in the country today, is a very tough time. it's not about class, it is about class, but it's not about class is about deeper things. when i see donald trump plays to our most negative emotions. fear, hate, anger. and joe biden plays to very positive emotions and positive traits, like aspiration and collective carrying, and personal responsibility. so it's not just simply about the numbers in a tax bil

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when i was a kid back in the early '60s, and lbj started the war on poverty, upward bound worker a couple years later, it was at times, poverty had a a white face, white appalachian face. and then after watts, poverty became black. life magazine, "saturday evening post," look, publications for young people that were very popular what's at america. that's what you the visuals, the visual profile of america. we are still in the states today. when you say poverty so many folks thinks of a black face. they don't see that we have problems across the line. i have talked with j. d. vance and we compared notes and we could see that indeed we do have a common ground, that is with all want to have more productive america. want to see that america dream revived. so for many folks at american dream is just a fantasy. but to me that's what, i talk about aspiration. to me that's what the declaration of independence is about. i just came back from monticello, , another long stori won't go into but that's what i love the literature of that, just as -- yes, i'm about to wrap this up, but just as thurgood

i want to bring in political contributor, the assistant dean at the lbj and matt gorman and the former communications director for the national committee. obviously the big news today, all about that debate stage tomorrow. mike bloomberg qualifying for it. how do you think and what do you think mike bloomberg has to do at that debate tomorrow to change a little bit of the dynamic of the race? i mean, what does it mean for all of the other candidates as well to have mike bloomberg there for the first time? >> right. so ayman, let me take a step pack and highlight the fact this is the first electoral contest where we have a diverse electorate. whereas we saw with iowa and new hampshire it was a skewed vision of where america is today. so you have about 20% of the latino electorate in nevada. african-american and latinos together make up a third of the nevada electorate so everybody is speaking to the diverse electorate. but with mike bloomberg there's an especially important task here which is to confront the allegations that had been put forward in terms of him not being receptive to co

mccarthy did not beat lbj, expectations game. host: on the republican side, that was john mccain's second time. he won over mitt romney. in 2008. a sentence or two about john mccain's legacy in presidential politics? guest: i think his legacy is bigger than presidential politics. i think mccain is one of the real heroes of this country for the ages, in many ways. like pat, although they did not agree on a lot of political stuff, but a straight shooter. he was not a politician in that sense. he called them as he saw them, and his service in vietnam is just extraordinary. he was invited to leave the cage, and he wouldn't do it. he said, first one in, first one out. and he was junior to a lot of other captives. and he came back here and in new hampshire, he came back from to -- from next to zip. no staff, no poll numbers, on the ground convinced people. you could see it in their eyes that they bought his campaign because he was telling the truth. and i gave him a penny. i read that he was superstitious, and i found a penny in the pa

in the '60s, johnson started the lbj war on poverty, it was at a time when poverty had a white face, white appalachian face. and then after watts, poverty became black. "life" magazine, "saturday evening post," "look," publications, for you young people, that were once very popular in america. and that's where we got the visual profile of america. we're still in that stage today. when you say "poverty," so many folks think of a black face. they don't see we have problems across the line. i've talked with j.d. vance and compared notes. we do have a common ground, which is that we all want a more productive america, we want to see the american dream revived. for so many folks, the american dream is a fantasy. to me, that's what the declaration of independence is about. i just got back from monticello, another long story i won't get into. i love the literature, i'm going to wrap this up, but just as thurgood marshall refused to celebrate the bicentennial of the constitution, but he did celebrate the improved constitution, because the original constitution wasn't perfect. but it had the