if king said something critical of albi j. -- lbj. the vietnam war was giving lbj nightmares. spoke outcome lbj took this personally. lbj seem to join in the vendetta with hoover and this attack on king and i think is important to recognize the consequences. would lbj took office, he viewed king as one of its most important allies. they work together to pass some of them greatest legislation in this country's history. i think our partnership was an amazing one. maybe the greatest partnership between the president and activist. hoover helped to spread cancer into that relationship. you can hear it in their phone calls, how he goes from calling him martin in the early calls to referring to him as dr. king and losing the warmth of that relationship to the point where they are antagonists. amy: i'm going to go through a chronology after fbi director hoover called dr. king "the most notorious liar in the country," a reporter asked dr. king for his response. >> dr. king, what is your reaction to the charges made by j edgar hoover? >> well, i was quite shocked and surprised to learn

so we know that lbj of it then we don't know what lbj thinks of it over the course of the next months perhaps. lbj's vice presidential which do exist out in which the johnson library is in the process of of of processing. perhaps those will help us understand and we are salivating at the prospect of getting getting a hold of those. there is an indication that lbj a the first of those two meetings on october second 1963 before leaving after 25 minutes for a lunchtime engagement, he did not speak and his name is not listed on. the mencken on that record. johnson's own daily diary says that he was there, which is intriguing. do i remember that? did he make a trip at he was vice president. he sure he made a really important trip may of 1961 after the first set of really consequential decisions, the kennedy administration took to up its program, vietnam. and it was part of the process of trying to convince the south vietnamese that we are with you. and that was really the first goal of the presidential program, as it was described, to let the south vietnamese. know that that we will remain

well i mean, that's easy question mean yoshioka motto was lbj photographer. and, you know, is he is the best ever he i mean he had an interesting character as his main subject, let's face it. but he was also phenomenal photographer. and so, i mean would probably choose one of his although i worked with a guy named jack kightlinger who had worked as one of the white house staff photographers for, i think, three or four administrations. and he with us during the first term of of reagan and worked under ogie to yoshimoto and there was a time when lbj had fired okamoto for for like a week or something like that. and jack has like one of my favorite photos. it's a picture of lbj alone in the cabinet room and in the foreground is a is a tape recorder. and he's listening to a narration from chuck robb, who had been sending tapes vietnam to his wife. yes, the president's daughter. white house communications. take those cassette tapes and try to improve the sound quality. and they put them on a real for real and lbj is listening to the horrors of what he's reporting a

in march of 1968, as the vietnam war waged on, lbj announced he wouldn't seek reelection. that year lady bird opened up the white house toen the predecessor to the american public with television cameras. this was recorded by the white house photographic center. >> many years ago when i was the wife of a brand-new congressman, i snapped photographs outside of these iron gates. i nevere imagined that one day i would live on the other side of that fence. i had the distinct feeling that this house belonged in part to me. i think that is a feeling everyone who visits here shares. like the thousands who come here each year i was impressed by the majesty of the room on the first floor and theto proud history ad each of them. what the passerby doesn't always realize is that there are two sides to the white house. the official side that remains in the public eye and the private side that the public rarely sees. the living quarters of the president and his family. this is our living room. actually it's the west end of the long haul. it's the center and crossroads of our family acti

oin march of 1968 as the vietnm war on lbj announced he was not seeking re-election. that your lady bird opened up the white house has had her predecessor jacqueline kennedy to the american public by television cameras. this was recorded by the white house naval photographic center. >> years ago when i was the wife of a brand-new texas congressman eyeing went outside at these iron gates. i never imagined that one day i would be on the other side of that fence. i had the distinct feeling that this house belonged to impart to me. i think that's the feeling that everyone who visits here shares. just like the thousands who come here each year i was impressed by what they magnificent state rooms on the first floor and proud to bring the history. a passerby doesn't always realize that there are two sides to the white house. the official side that remains in the public eye in the private side that the public rarely sees. the president and his family. this is our living room. actually at the west end of a long call. it's under center in crossroads of all family activity and i

in march 1968 is the vietnam war raged on, lbj announced he would not seek reelection. lady bird opened up the white house as her predecessor, jacqueline kennedy to the american public via television cameras. this is recorded by the white house naval photographic center. >> many years ago when i was wife of a brand-new texas congressman, i snapped photographs outside the iron gates. i never imagined that one day i would live on the other side of it. i have the distinct feeling that this house belongs in part to me. that is something everyone who visits here says. just those who come here every year, i was impressed by the majesty on the first floor and proud of the stream of history that lands in each of them. the passerby doesn't always realize there are two sides to the white house, the official side that remains in the public eye, and the private side the public rarely sees. the living quarters of the president and his family. this is our living room. actually it is the west end of the long haul, the nerve center of all family activities. and intimate place and yet b

sorts of demands are what lead to things like the political heroes that we know about from taxes like lbj who the voting rights act and the fair housing act. real act of bravery and leadership onn his part through that kind of big legislation you do not always hear about that heroes are the everyday people especially the american south in texas those pushing lde delta region the right thing. >> republican nathaniel is the new member repse the first congressional district of texas in the 118 s congress. he told c-span about how seeing ronald reagan running for president sparked his own love ofof politics. while he studied russian in college. and how his parents ended up raising him on the campus of a bible college in texas. >> about 1976 my parents moved from arizona east texas to help start a bible college there in southern smith county. i was just shy being two years old at the time. but me and my three brothers packed up in a car with my parents and moved across half the country to help start a bible college in east texas with this issue are family others what was the idea? >> they did

of demands they are what lead to things like the political heroes that know about from texas, like lbj moving forward the civil rights act or the voting rights act or the fair housing act took real acts of bravery and leadership on his part to sign that of and push through that kind of big legislation. but you don't always hear about the heroes that were the everyday people, especially in american south or in texas, that weressee, and arizona. rublican nathaniel moran is the new memberepsenting the first congressional district of texas in the 118th congress. he told c-span about how seeing ronald reagan running for president sparked his own love for politics and why he studied russian in college, and how his parents ended up raising him on the campus of a bible college in texas. rep. moran: in 1976, my parents moved from arizona to east texas to help start a bible college there in southern smith county, i was just shy of being two years old, but me and my three brothers packed up in a car with my parents and moved across half the country to help start a bible college in east texas. >>

in march of 1968 as the vietnam war on lbj announced he would not seekd re-election. that your lady bird opened up the white house as head or predecessor kennedy for the american public by television camera but but this is reportedy white house -- many years ago when i was the wife of a brand-new texas congressman i snapped photographs outside the iron gates. i never imagined that one day i would live on the other side of that fence. like many tourists i had it distinct feeling that this house belonged to impart to me. i think that's a feeling that everyone who visits here shares. just like the thousands who come here each year is impressed by the majesty of the great state room on the first floor and the stream of history. a passerb' doesn't always realize that there are two sides to the white house, the official side to earn my -- remains in the public eye in the private side that theli public rarely sees. thert living quarters for the president and his family. this is our living room. actually it's the west and of the long-haul. it's the nerve center and crossroads

lbj was president of the united states from 1963-1969, and during those turbulent years he often invoked america's better angelsbe in speeches, and he alo talked about his vision of a great society. and he went to the statue of liberty to sign an immigration bill. after those router from richard nixon. 1969, richard nixon talked about the greatsi silent majority, and in 1974 he resigned from office. beginning now, here's a lyndon johnson. >> president hatcher, governor romney, senators mcnamara and hart, congressmen meader and staebler, and other members of the fine michigan delegation, members of the graduating class, my fellow americans.s it is a great pleasure to be here today. this university has been coeducational since 1870, but i do not believe it was on the basis of your accomplishments that a detroit high school girl said, in choosing a college, you first have to decide whether you want a coeducational school or an educational school. [laughing] well, we can find both here at michigan, although perhaps at different hours. [laughing] i came out here today very anxious to meet the

that, you know, that dirksen would have walked over his grandmother for two federal judges and and lbj took his measure, seduced him, you know, long before ford appeared on the scene. the dirksen ford was not warm. part of it was generational. part of it, as dirksen himself said, i, a friend of president johnson, and i am a friend of charlie halleck and. so, you know, ford had two strikes against him. beyond that, everett dirksen was of a generation that believed that if a president took us to war, there was not much role for congress to. be debating the strategic execution of that ford was a generation younger and he believed strongly that either escalate war all out, you know, bomb haiphong harbor, etc., etc. or pull out. but you know this kind of halfway war as he thought was costing american lives and was not getting us any closer to do anything, recognize war is a victory. so dirksen and ford were not close. ford was not jealous. dirksen monopolized the spotlight. he was born the spotlight. he was very good at it. if you've ever heard his. he was known as the wizard of ooze and be

such a lucky boy and soon one day again just picture the theme ♪♪ grandpa lbj again with a newborn boythe job that johnson's think is just fine ♪♪ happy days when they take a bow to beat the drums for lynda bird and her captain now. ♪♪ ♪♪ the washington club was the setting for linda's first shower. when does close friend. ♪♪ the friends lynda had known from her school days and career circles. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ >> oh this is ms.-- from ms. summers. [inaudible] i told her i needed something to wear in my hair. [laughter] per pin curls. this is from his master. oh look. isn't that cute? look. just beautiful. i can hardly wait to wear it. after weekend of parties and showers in her honor lynda thought she would spend a quiet sunday afternoon at the home of captain and mrs. giles. she soon learned not all prenuptial events are advertised on the social calendar. [inaudible conversations] >> the first thing we saw was my man is a marine. >> we pulled up in front. >> isn't that lovely? do you think i would dare use those? you know how that can be. [laughter] did you do this all by yourself? it's beaut

you and fred both said that that the anti-war movement limited would lbj and nixon's options and exactly now why? you know, could you could you say more about that and what how did it limit their options? was it that they were worried about the issues. was it that they were worried that about poll numbers or their legacy? was it that that the the anti-war demonstrations sort of the air out of the room politically and undermines their ability to get other policies enacted? i mean, tell more about the dimensions of how the impact of that movement of enacted i thinking within both administration and such that they limited their military options but we probably would need. 2 hours for this issue. your question there was just a couple of things and, fred. you know, from his work on the just years you may want to chime, i mean, first of all, which talk about lyndon johnson, i mean, the most obvious way of limited things was that after tet, there was an electoral challenge to lyndon johnson. and he ultimately out of the election altogether. right because he's about to be defeated in basra, simp

other people indoors to writing about lbj or john beauchamp writing about george w. bush. i described my predicament. and david said, write what you know. because that was a license for me to spend the next 10 years discovering all the things i didn't know about or. in any event, it is obviously up to the reader to decide how objective i am. susan: first of all, mentioning david mccullough, his book was probably responsible for a revisiting of harry truman. there is lots of harry truman connections that people made to the ford presidency. do you anticipate or probably hope that this will do the same? richard: i am not supposed to answer that question. [laughter] have you written a definitive biography? that is what i aspire to. you are supposed to leave that with other people. there are parallels. presidents defined themselves and lots of ways. one way they defined themselves is which presidents they choose to honor by hanging there were trips in the cabinet room. in the first hour of his presidency, ford goes into the cabinet room and dwight eisenhower is in the place. ri

i'd like to know with respect to the relationship of lbj and jaeger hoover, which one was driving the hostility and intimidation and threats mostly towards martin luther king? vicki. >> ice question. >> that's a great option. this is one of the relationships that really fascinates because i think we have a public image, and there was what i was seeing in the dock minced with lyndon johnson, which people know about the nixon tapes. also he a lot of phone calls, and office life. hoover and johnson were old friends. they actually lived on the same block in washington. for many years will johnson was in congress. they work their dog stood together, and so, this is a book about washington. about washington as a small town, and that's one of those small town moments. when johnson became president as a result of the kennedy assassination, he and hoover were already very tight, and johnson from the first look at hoover as a tool that he could use and is johnson in 1964 who exempted hoover from what would have been mandatory federal retirement at the age of 70. he did that to get to your quest

our history, but that relationship was slowly undermined and destroyed by j edgar hoover's leaks and lbj'sicity. johnson was encouraging hoover to keep it up. >> how do you approach navigating the challenges of presenting a balanced and comprehensive portrayal of dr. king's life, considering his remarkable achievements and personal flaws? >> i think it's very important to be honest about our heroes. king was deeply flawed. he knew it. he talked about in his sermons. he was not perfect. i want to balance that so readers understand that heroes do not need to be perfect. if we expect perfection, we have a boring story. but we also can't hope to emulate the great men and women in history because none of are so perfect. -- none of us are perfect. i think readers can still appreciate his greatness and all he accomplished and how he inspires us. >> you think so? i think we have so few heroes that there are so many invested in the mythology. >> part of the problem is people are afraid to step into roles of leadership because they might be criticized for something in the background that might not b

amy: in 20, during an event at the lbj library, henry kissinger was asked to respond to those who callcriminal. >> [indiscernible] it is a shameful infliction on the people who use it. amy: as henry kissinger turns 100 years old on saturday, in addition to nick turse who has written this astounding series the intercept headlined "blood on his hands," we are joined by the pulitzer prize-winning historian grandin, author of the book "kissinger's shadow: the long reach of america's most controversial statesman." greg's latest article is headlined "henry kissinger: a war criminal still at large at 100." can you take off from where nick turse left off, greg grandin, and tell us how, though so many have come under a microscope like nixon and his whole group in the white house, kissinger somehow escaped this by the establishment media? the independent media has long been fiercely critical of him. tell us kissinger's full story, greg. >> we would need a lot more time than we have to tell his full story. i think what is interesting is -- i mean, kissinger is they were criminal but there are lot

my husband was lucky enough to work on the speech that lbj gave to the joint sessions of congress afterma demonstrations when he talked about the we shall overcome banner. he and the power of the presidency joined together. that's when change takes place, when these outside movements they're now afraid -- some of these bans are on movement discussion -- took place. i was just thinking after president biden went to howard university this last week that president johnson gave a talk at howard yes, sirty way, way back in 1965 and he acknowledged the importance of racism in a certain sense because he took this incredible metaphor. you can't take a person to the beginning of a race hobbled by chains all these years and just say, you're free to compete. it was really the birth place of affirmative action. that discussion of the acknowledgment of racism would be denied according to these ambiguous laws. we learned at that moment that they were going to try to confront social and economic justice as the third part of the civil rights movement. desegregation, voting rights. thr intervened and we

interest that if the leadership negotiates a deal, one of the most successful policy developments since lbjll come out of this much stronger as a united party. >> and i'm hearing from my colleague priscncescilla alvare hearing that they have wrapped up the phone call. so we're now waiting to hear what the president tells reporters. and manu is on a hill on a saturday so that means there is something serious going on. let me ask you about this. one of the other sticking points. and perhaps it's been ironed out. it sounds like they worked on it. trying to push back the debt ceiling. extend it past 2024. how will that fly with republicans? they would like to use this as an issue next year. >> whether it is ron desantis or donald trump, either of those individuals, with all the issues they're dealing with, trying to potentially defeat joe biden. they have to answer to the american public about the debt ceiling. i'm not sure and i know there is some current polling that says most americans want the president to negotiate with republicans. that makes sense. however, if we're in the middle of this

material roles will sully that president legacy in any kind of way because so many partizans i work at the lbj of public affairs and you know that folks there, you know, are obviously concerned about president lyndon legacy and tim's former director of the the nixon library and there were folks there who are very much interested in nixon's legacy. the library, when that's finally erected, people who are going to be very much interested in how history looks upon. barack obama so what can can the archivists do a especially you know, i'm really intrigued by the fact that yeah congress and this is a shame because you think about the 1970s and you know nicole tam you know do such great work on this that is the last era of good government that we had postwar watergate church committee where we were really having this internal dialog with ourselves and institutions. and i have to say probably before 2020 and the reckoning around george floyd the 1970s and post-watergate are the time where so many americans find out about the and counterintelligence. and they really do do finance reforms things that c

. >> republican-controlled state legislatures are targeting lbj lgbtq+ rights all over the country.en introduced just this year. i sat down earlier today with chasten buttigieg, the husband of transportation secretary pete buttigieg to talk about his new book, i have something to tell you. on the challenges he faced growing up and how to support lgbtq youth today. >> you are just back from being in your hometown traverse city a place where it was not so easy to grow up you. what was it like to go home with the book in your hand, a guide to help young people just like you? >> i was overwhelmed. i haven't felt nerves like that since community theater plays. because it mattered so much to go home and have those kinds of conversations at home and to meet the young people that were there. >> how do you consider this book? if it's not a memoir, it is self help book? >> i think it's a little bit of everything. it's a book i wish i would've had an eighth grade when i was growing up in northern michigan i thought i was the only gay person in the world, i thought something was wrong with me.