denomination effect that we saw because of the kind of hick ups in the system with the banking crisis and ldi, that put a premium into liquidity. how do you manage through these different economic cycles, and are you prepared or are you ready for hedging which means that at times you're going to do well and at times you are not going to do well with the entirety of your portfolio, and that's ok. actually managing your portfolio for these different changing economic cycles or behaviors you are supposed to be doing. francine: does it change how you leave man group? robyn: it changes because of the way that we position the organization. we are a organization that is diverse. we have different engines doing different things on that fundamental discretionary side. we have products in the macro space, we are long only, we are long-short. but what we are seeing is our clients are interested in more customized solutions. solutions that actually answer the problem they've got with a challenge they have rather than here is a product, by it or nothing else. it changes in the fact that the value you are

denomination we saw because of the kind of the hiccups in the system with the banking crisis or with ldi. that put premium back into liquidity. what's your duration risk, your liquidity risk, how do you manage these different economic cycles, and are you prepared or are you ready for hedging, which means, let's remember what it means, it means that at times you are going to do well and at times you will do well with the entirety of your portfolio. and that's ok. that actually managing your portfolio for these different changing economic cycles or behaviors is what you are supposed to be doing. francine: does it change how you lead man group? francine: it changes because of the way we position the organization. we are an organization that is diverse. our capabilities are diverse. we have different engines doing different things on that fundamental discretionary side. we have products in the maca space, products that are equity, we are longer, long short. but what we are seeing is our clients are interested in more customized solutions. in solutions that actually answer the problems they'v

denomination effect that we saw because of the kind of hiccups in the system with the banking crisis, with ldi, that also put a premium back into liquidity. so, what is your duration risk? what is your liquidity risk? how do you manage through these different economic cycles? and are you prepared, or are you ready for hedging? which means that, you know, let's remember what that means. it means that at times you are going to do well, and at times you are not going to do well with the entirety of your portfolio. and that is ok. that actively managing your portfolio for these different changing economic cycles or behaviors is what you are supposed to be doing. francine: does it change how you lead man group? robyn: it changes because of the way that we position the organization. we are an organization that is diverse. our capabilities are diverse. we have different engines doing different things, be it on the quant side or on that fundamental discretionary side. we have products that are in the macro space, we have products in equities, we are long only, we are long/short, but we are seeing is c

we don't have the same ldi community here. i negative announcements catastrophic. we could significantly digest that in a way bigger because of thee volatility? to cushion some of the volatility. >> there's a recession or a weakening or a downturn what is the policywn response pre-covid the balance are already hide the burden is going to be on the fiscal side. if they start using a cycle tot see if they will maybe it's debated as you pointed out. but likely go slowly. they will be careful. they go back to zero very quickly. the recession or crisis for the space for the federal reserve to support very, very quickly. perhaps less of the burden. so there is a difference relative to a rework prior to the covid shock. >> you agree that could offset some of the physical going forward? >> if rates are high ambient esonce income they responds we have a crisis let's agree a rising debt level is just high. what the response exactly would be ultimately stories will do qe again. but with the fiscal response be? i still think we can quickly agree and send him deficits had a goo

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