officer leadbetter? >> yea. i am actively engaged and entered to see how our -- you know universe keeps growing and building. and when we can learn from it. and you know i think -- at the risk of repeating myself, always, for me the lived experience provides an opportunity to get strit to the heart of the matter. when we speak to the communities in a way that is miles an hour actionable than what we are long-term work of building a robust and data set. so i want to keep that top of minds and try to build that out and support angels and he department to move quickly as possible toward that. and i'm looking at the data and if i understand it correctly, the returns to homelessness 13% return rate, and i want to talk to committee members if you know the data nationally and put angelso the spot. how does this compare to other communities. 10% seems awful about i don't know. those other things i want to finds the pieces that we can really make strong recommendations. areas that we should be concerned about and i -- i

member leadbetter, are you still there?> i am. >> you're back. >> sorry, it looked like i was here the whole time. perhaps the retreat were the last time i had that discussion. but i think last year the retreat got eaten up by other learning topics and our need to kind of connect with each other. and i think we're also intending hopefully in the future to be able to have public dialogue at this level of sophistication. i don't know if there are opportunities for that or if we're building into that. jesse, maybe you can help us understand where you see meaningful conversations and analysis and really taking the time to do that. >> well it's good to hear that's a priority. needs assessment, i'm hoping that it can be part of the retreat. that seems like time to do focused conversation. and recruit more maybe public feedback and public comment. you know, and then we can do a different sort of -- if we wanted to have a public meeting, this is a public meeting. but town hall-style meeting or something like that. it is definitely

member leadbetter, are you still there?you're back. >> sorry, it looked like i was here the whole time. perhaps the retreat were the last time i had that discussion. but i think last year the retreat got eaten up by other learning topics and our need to kind of connect with each other. and i think we're also intending hopefully in the future to be able to have public dialogue at this level of sophistication. i don't know if there are opportunities for that or if we're building into that. jesse, maybe you can help us understand where you see meaningful conversations and analysis and really taking the time to do that. >> well it's good to hear that's a priority. needs assessment, i'm hoping that it can be part of the retreat. that seems like time to do focused conversation. and recruit more maybe public feedback and public comment. you know, and then we can do a different sort of -- if we wanted to have a public meeting, this is a public meeting. but town hall-style meeting or something like that. it is definitely possible. i

and officer leadbetter touched on this earlier. >> thank you for the question. you are know, i think we can continue to improve inner agency collaboration. part of what hieltd the key partnerships was to say that putting this presentation toaght together and rife' been with the department since the ghing 2016. one of the goals is to have the central agency and talk to public health and housing department and human services agency. i've been excited in prepping this presentation that in start starting with the whole person care initiative and continuing through the state partnerships, also we have now quarterly meetings as an executive team with the mayor's office of howing to talk about cross cutting issues. we have similar tables with public health and human services and our partners at dos. it really the funding opportunities scw having more coordination and one-agency in this agency that is responsible for homelessness service agency allows us to start the more robust conversations. with the -- now we're going to leverage medi-cal dollars for permanent suppor