leaders supreme court justice powell. warning them that business is losing control over the society. and something has to be done to counter these forces course we put it in terms of defense defending ourselves against outside power. if you look at it it's a call for business to use its control over resources to carry out a major offensive to beat back this democratizing wave. over on the liberal side something exactly similar the 1st. major report of the a trilateral commission is concerned with this. called the crisis of democracy. trilateral commission is liberal internationalists in their flavors indicated by the fact that they pretty much staff the corridor ministration. they were also told that democratizing tendencies of the sixty's and so we have to react to it. they were concerned that there was an excess of democracy developing. previously passive and obedient parts of the population or sometimes called the special interests who were beginning to organize and try to enter the political arena and they said that i

in addition to the minority leader senator schumer you have a supreme court justice over this trial whent gets to the senate. it's justice roberts who makes some decisions at least what evidence comes in and what doesn't. we should keep in mind politically speaking a number of members of mitch mcconnell's relatively thin majority, he only has 53 members there, but there are a number them up for re-election and who don't necessarily benefit of taking this hard-line approach and there will be more considerations that come into play here and it is more likely than not, in my opinion, that some of the kind of information that you're referencing, some of these key witnesses, that information is going to make its way into the trial. >> i think it's important to point out every time we get another example of it, if this was so innocuous, the hold that was placed, why did so many people go through so many steps to keep it as written by duffey close to knows who need to know in execution of instead of the northerly process? >> it's remarkable that every time somebody comes forward and indicates t

office the president of the united states the speaker of the house majority leader of the senate the chief justice of the supreme court and the chairman and ranking members of the house committee on the judiciary all have one important thing in common we have each taken an oath to preserve protect and defend the constitution of the united states if the president puts himself before the country evaluates a president's most basic responsibility he breaks his oath to the american people if he puts himself before the country in a manner that threatens our democracy and our oath our promise to the american people requires us to come to the defense of the nation that rose stands even when it is politically inconvenient even when it might bring us under criticism even when it might cost us our jobs as members of congress and even if the president is unwilling to honor his oath i am compelled to undermine as we heard in our last hearing the framers of the constitution were careful students of history and clear in their vision for the new nation. they knew the threats from true democracy can take many forms that we must protec

the majority leader mitch mcconnell said senators would work six days a week until it's finished. supreme court chief justice john roberts would preside over each session. republican leaders would set the ground rules but house democrats would serve in the role of prosecutors laying out their case for impeachment. president trump would be represented by lawyers. the bar is higher in the senate, two-thirds of senators present must vote in favor of removing the president from office. >>> this morning the novato police department is joining what's becoming known as the amazon surveillance network. police will be able to ask for ring doorbell surveillance video. detectives can use it to solve crim crimes. they are the first and one of eight in the bay area. >> you already have your reusable shopping bag, a water bottle, get ready to carry one of these, too. at least if you go to blue bottle. they are pushing to become zero waste. that means no more paper or plastic cups. reporter julian glover live with what this means for you. >> reporter: we all have to get used to the big change there. out with those single u

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leader. we're waiting for a supreme court justice seat, right?r trial. mitch mcconnell getting him through the senate process. so everybody has always known the end to this story. the end of this story is he's impeached by the house and not removed by the senate. and then this thought out in the mid 2020 election. i wish that weren't the case. i wish it were a fair trial and judgements were made on the facts. and anybody who looks at these facts can see plainly that donald trump is guilty as charged. and that is what we're seeing, the dysfunction in our politics. and capability of the legislative branch and the standard norms of how you deal with this. >> there is a lot of presence over arnold palmer in the back nine. there are people in the washington within the white house who are planning what the president's defense is going to be. there is a conversation on capitol hill about his managers going to be presenting the perfection for the democrats in the senate. what about in the white house? what do we know about from procedural perspective how

the president of the united states, speaker of the house, the majority leader of the senate, the chief justice of the supreme court and the chairman and ranking members of the house judiciary committee, all have one important thing in common. we have taken an oath to preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states. if the president puts himself before the country, he violates the president's most basic responsibility. he breaks his oath to the american people. if he puts himself before the country in a manner that threatens our democracy and our oath, our promise to the american people requires us to come to the defense of the nation. that oath stands even when it is politically inconvenient, even when it might bring us under criticism, even when it might cost us our jobs as members of congress and even if the president is unwilling to honor his oath, i'm compelled to honor mine. as we heard in our last hearing, the framers of the constitution were careful students of history and clear in their vision for the new nation. they knew that threats to democracy can take many forms that we must protec

the chamber could dismiss the charges senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has said the trial will go ahead the chief justice of the supreme court john roberts will be sworn in as chief presiding officer and then the senate is at his jury is house of representative members act as the prosecution is they and lawyers for the president will cross examine witnesses if there are any at least 67 senators need to vote guilty on at least one article of impeachment in order to have donald trump removed from office and if this happens the vice president then becomes president after weeks of hearings public opinion on that impeachment is split and you got to reports from miami in florida a swing state that donald trump won back in 2016. this is not impeachable the impeachment hearings into president trump's dealings with ukraine began in november the hearings have times been dramatic revealing and deeply partisan places like graham's bar in miami though you're not likely to hear patrons talking about what many see as a political crisis it's something owner adam gersten doesn't shy away from he holds election watch parties here isn't afraid

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president of the united states, the speaker of the house, the majority leader of the senate, the chief justice of the supreme court, and the chairman and ranking members of the house committee on the judiciary all have one important thing in common. we have each taken an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the united states. if the president puts himself before the country he violates a president's most basic responsibility. he breaks his oath american people. if he puts himself before the country, in a manner that threatens our democracy, then our oath, our promise to the american people, requires us to come to the defense of the nation. that oath stands even when it is politically inconvenient, even when it might bring us under criticism, even when it might cost us our jobs as members of congress. and even if the president is unwilling to honor his oath, i am compelled to honor mine. as we heard in our last hearing, the framers of the constitution were careful students of history and clear in their vision for the new nation. they knew that threats to democracy can take many forms, that we m

president of the united states, the speaker of the house, the majority leader of the senate, the chief justice of the supreme court, and the chairman and ranking members of the house committee on the judiciary, all have one important thing in common, we have each taken an oath to preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states. if the president puts himself before the country, he violates the president's most basic responsibility. he breaks his oath to the american people. if he puts himself before the country, in a manner that threatens our democracy, then our oath, our promise to the american people, requires us to come to the defense of the nation. that oath stands even when it is politically inconvenient, even when it might bring us under criticism, even when it might cost us our jobs, as members of congress. and even if the president is unwilling to honor his oath, i am compelled to honor mine. as we heard in our last hearing, the framers of the constitution were careful students of history and clear in their vision for the new nation. they knew that threats to democracy can take many forms

two, why don't you keep it in her pockets of the supreme court justice in case we need to have another one, the leader in the senate cannot pass somebody through? we could use impeachment as a roadblock. eleanor: right. that is playing hard politics. i don't quite see that happening. it is intriguing. i hope we get through the next year without any supreme court nominations. that is of great concern on the democratic side. there is a conservative majority in the court right now. justice roberts will be presiding over the senate trial. notconstitution really does spell out what the role of the presiding office will be. chief justice rehnquist during the clinton trial basically said he got a lot of reviews for doing nothing and playing solitaire. he did not make any big rulings. did not make any big, definitive rulings. i am sure that justice roberts would like it if he could get away with that, too. but this may be a different period. but the congress comes back next week, and i think that pelosi, the speaker, will hold onto the articles as long as that tactic appears to be working. it could shift. so

justice of the supreme court. he said god has given us in this christian nation the right to choose our leaders.: i want to take a look at some of the coalitions that will be launching next year. evangelicals -- i'm told we don't have that full screen. evangelicals for trump, catholics for trump and jewish voices for trump. i mean, that's quite a broad spectrum theologically as well as in terms of expanding the base. >> that's right, lou. but we are all united on key and core issues. wednesday night i was at the hanukkah party at the white house. so many jewish people there loved this president because of his pro israel stand. evangelicals are united in their belief to right to life. these believe are coming together for the important purpose of re-electing this president. wednesday night the president gave me a chance to say a word before he signed this historic piece of legislation. the executive order on anti-semitism. i said mr. president thank you for having the courage to be on the right side of history and god when it comes to israel. he's on the right side of god when it comes to life, r

nancy pelosi and minority leader chuck schumer signaled they'll make several e demands for a fair trial. and start with key players in the trial starting with supreme court justice, chief justice, john roberts. presiding. what will his role be? how much power does he have? >> he essentially runs the show, but at the direction of the senators. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and however he compromises with colleagues will essentially set a lot of the rules and we'll get to those, but then turn it over to the chief justice whose main role comes from the constitution. in fact, brooke, the chief justice of the united states is mentioned in the constitution only once and the reference has to do with his presiding over a trial when it's the president who's being impeached. so he'll come in. he'll take an oath and then he will deliver an oath to the 100 sna senators. they're come up and sewn what's cawhat's -- sign what's calmed an oath book. and the essentially prosecutors will present the case against the president and then the president's lawyers led by white house counsel pat cipollone would defend it, but the people who are in real control are the senators.

supreme court justice. what he cares most about is staying senate majority leader. he has six vulnerable members.is going to do at the end of the day what's in their interest, we're not exactly sure yet. i think the big scuffle will happen over what the rules are, what kind of trial this is, whether there's witnesses, whether it is a show trial or sham trial. people that se mentioned like cory gardner, tom tillis, susan collins, may need to do more than something the country laughs at. the senators want to appear different. i was struck at the end of this week when a member of the judiciary committee, a republican, after sitting through all of the hearings came out, tried to tell manu raju that the president didn't bring up biden's name in the call. now, she had sat through all of the hearings, there were thousands of pages. she stood there with a straight face, said the president never mentioned biden. that's their point of view, which is facts, we will create our own fact base. the senators will have a little more trouble doing that. >> you talk about also how this is playing out, you have rudy

gerald ford when he was the house minority leader in 1960s and led an unsuccessful attempt to convict, to impeach william o. douglas, a supreme court justice at the time and ford said, an impeachable offense is what majority of the house of representatives thinks is an impeachable fenc ablable offens. true then, it's true now. high you define impeachable offenses is always going to be essentially a political judgment. that's what ford was talking about. that's why nancy pelosi has been hesitating about timing here and also this issue of scope. do you include the obstruction of justice that mueller identified in the obstruction of congress? that mueller talked about. that's a profound issue that as far as i can tell is completely unresolved within the democratic caucus. >> as a law enforcement member, what do you think? is it better to have a clean ukraine focused impeachment, even though it's a political decision not a law enforcement one, or do you think expanded to include the previous allegations of obstruction of justice. >> i have great respect for the work of the special counsel team. i think that the report is clearly, lays out at l

president of the united states, speaker of the house, majority leader of the senate, chief justice of the supreme court and the chairman and ranking members of the house committee on the judiciary all have one important thing in common, we have each taken an oath to preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states. if the president puts himself before the country he violates the president's most basic responsibility and breaks his oath to the american people. if he puts himself before thehe country in a manner that threatens our democracy than our oath and our promise to the american people requires us to come to the defense of the nation. that stands for when it's anlitically inconvenient even when it might bring us under criticism and even when it might cost us our jobs. even if the president is unwilling to honor his oath, i am compelled to honor mine. as we heard in our last hearing framers of the constitution were careful students of history and clear in their vision with a new nation. they new threat to democracy can take many forms that we must protect against them. they warned

the chamber could dismiss the charges senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has said the trial will go ahead the chief justice of the supreme court john breaux bert's is sworn in as chief presiding officer in the senators will act as jurors the house of representatives members kids act as prosecutors they and lawyers for the president will cross-examine the witnesses at least 2 thirds or 67 senators are needed to vote guilty on at least one article of impeachment to have donald trump removed from office now if this happens the vice president would become president of the united states serious senior political analyst marvin bashara joins me now here in doha marble they were fought through the process that will eventually happen but it does seem and all fully long way off especially since those articles of impeachment haven't even got so the senate yet what's going on. well clearly. the speaker of the house once a bargaining chip with the republican leadership of the senate and the only way she could do that is by withholding those articles of impeachment sort that in her in her mind there won't be a congo room trial in the senate

president of the united states, the speaker of the house, the majority leader of the senate, the chief justice of the supreme court, and the chairman and ranking members of the house committee on the judiciary all have one important thing in common. we have each taken an oath to preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states. if the president puts himself before the country, he violates the president's most basic responsibility. he breaks his oath to the american people. if he puts himself before the country in a manner that threatens our democracy then our promise to the american people requires us to come to the defense of the nation. >> that oath stands even when it is politically inconvenient. even when it might bring us under criticism. even when it might cause us our jobs as members of congress. even if the president is unwilling to honor his oath, i am compelled to honor mine. as we heard in our last hearing, the framers of the constitution rememb were careful vision of the new nation. they knew the threats to democracy can take many forms. >> that we must protect against them. they warn

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justice of the supreme court. he said god has given us in this christian nation the right to choose our leaders.u: i want to take a look at some of the coalitions that will be launching next year. evangelicals -- i'm told we don't have that full screen. evangelicals for trump, catholics for trump and jewish voices for trump. i mean, that's quite a broad spectrum theologically as well as in terms of expanding the base. >> that's right, lou. but we are all united on key and core issues. wednesday night i was at the hanukkah party at the white house. so many jewish people there loved this president because of his pro israel stand. evangelicals are united in their belief to right to life. these believe are coming together for the important purpose of re-electing this president. wednesday night the president gave me a chance to say a word before he signed this historic piece of legislation. the executive order on anti-semitism. i said mr. president thank you for having the courage to be on the right side of history and god when it comes to israel. he's on the right side of god when it comes to life,

majority leader mitch mcconnell of kentucky and senator lindsey graham of south carolina have already declared they are not impartial jurors. >> i'm not an impartial juror. >> supreme court justiceedes. he has the power to compel the senate to vote and the power to decide things like the rules of evidence, but he can be overruled. if a senator disagreed with him, he or she can ask for the full body to vote. >> i want the whistleblower who put in a false report to testify. >> you know by now that president trump has talked about calling witnesses like hundredor biden, adam schiff, the whistleblower, but he'll need 51 senators to agree. the witnesses cannot just be called at will by the prosecution or defense. if a senator wants to question a witness, they have to put that in writing and give it to chief justice roberts. so then expect much of the show boating we've seen so far. then we get to the vote. it takes 34 senators to acquit. there are 54 republicans. let's do the math. that means that 20 of them would have to side with the democrats and two independents, assuming that all of those members will vote to remove him from office. all 100 senators then stand at their seat to c

1970 when gerald ford was the minority leader of the house of representatives and they were trying to impeach william o douglas, who was a justice of the supreme courtand he was asked about what an impeachable offense is and what ford said, an impeachable offense is whatever the house of representatives decides it is at a given moment in history. now in a raw, raw, cynical sheer politics sense that's true. they can file articles of impeachment about anything. articles of impeachment unlike removing the president in the senate trial, articles of impeachment only require a simple majority of the house of representatives to be filed. you need a 2/3 supermajority in the senate to remove the president. and that high requirement for removal has historically meant that we've had almost no impeachment. we had less than a handful of experiences with impeachment. and for the most part it is because, even in the house if people think a president deserves to be impeached they realize it is futile to try if the politics in the senate won't allow for it to happen. i always thought the framers design here is ingenius because, the supermajority means that no presid

president of the united states, the speaker of the house, the majority leader of the senate, the chief justice of the supreme court and the chairman and ranking members of the house committee on the judiciary have one more thing in common. each taken an oath to preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states. if the president puts himself before the country, he violates the president's most basic responsibility. he breaks his oath to the american people. if he puts himself before the country in a manner that's threatens our democracy, then our oath, our promise to the american people, requires us to come to the defense of the nation. that oath stands even when it is politically inconvenient and might bring us under chris sis many, even when it might cost us our jobs as members of congress. and even if the president is unwilling to honor his oath, i am compelled to honor mine. as we heard in our last hearing, the framers of the constitution were careful students of history. and clear in their vision for the new nation. they knew that threats to democracy can take many forms that we must protect a

leader mcconnell had said i happeto think that that has. further confused the process senator lisa murkowski of alaska,a moderate who has bucked her party on health care and supreme court justice brett kavanaugh responding sharply to this everything i do during this i'm coordinating with th white use counsel there no difference between the president's physician, our position. >>the how to handle those. >>the koski king clear she also has concerns with how house democrats ran their impeachme probe. speaker pelosi was very clear very direct thaher goal. christmas yet undersring the tenuous situation. mcconnell finds himself in with the go shuns over whata senate trial will look like at a standstill forgetdo anything until the speaker says the or so. >>everybody enjoy all of should mcconnell lose 4 of his 53 republican senators he would lose control of the process some decratic sources tell cnn they are keenly awarof any use to cultivate potential publican allies in recent weekfor democrats who acknowledge there's little to no chance of puing the votes together to remove president trump. it's the trial itself that has beme the battle if it doesn't ave documents and witnesses. it'

supreme court justices become weponized and for me it has always been violation of the law. >> democrats maintain solid majority in the house, simple majority, 218 votes to approve impeachment, senate majority leaderch mcconnell sees zero chance president trump will be removed from office but he expects a trial will take place come january, republicans say they don't expect to see many fireworks. >> we have seen the evidence, we will hear the evidence repeated but we will not see any new evidence, i think all of american has seen this. in the senate all republicans will vote against the house, two democrats have a very god chance to voting against impeachment also. senate democrats are demanding republican senators keep an open mind and rule out deciding how they are going to vote, arthel, after the trial takes place, arthel. arthel: mark meredith, thank you very much, eric. >> we don't need permission to go -- to use our constitutional rules. if president trump is allowed to refuse to comply with requests for information it would gut the house impeachment power and undermine our bedrock principle of separation of powers. eric: democratic pennsylvania congressman from philadelphia madeline dean, s

leader mcconnell had said. i happen to think that that has further confused the process. >> reporter: senator lisa murkowski of alaska, a moderate who bucked her party on health care and supreme court justice kavanaugh, responded sharply to this. >> everything i'm doing on this i'm coordinated with white house counsel. there will be no difference between the president's position and our position as to how to handle this. >> reporter: murkowski making clear she also has concerns with how house democrats ran their impeachment probe. >> speaker pell oosi was very clear, very direct that her goal was to get this done before christmas. >> reporter: yet underscoring the ten use situation mcconnell finds himself in with negotiation negotiations over what a senate trial will look like at a standstill. >> we can't do anything until the speaker sends the papers over. so, everybody enjoy the holidays. >> reporter: should mcconnell lose four of his 53 republican senators, he would lose control of the process, something democratic sources tell cnn they are keenly aware of and have used to cultivate potential republican allies in recent weeks. for democrats who acknowledge there is little to no chance o

mcconnell who's the leader of the republicans in the senate will decide the format of that trial all 50 or $100.00 senators will act as jurors the chief justice of the supreme court of the united states john roberts will essentially be in charge of the proceedings. every senator takes and north to judge impartially the facts that are presented and front of them but we have already had mitch mcconnell say that he is not an impartial juror he says that he thinks this is a political process he's criticized the democrats for speaking out saying that they want to call witnesses saying that the leader of the democrats should not have gone on the media to see that spoken to him fast mitch mcconnell was responding after he'd actually gone on the media in the 1st place to say that he was not going to be impartial and that he wanted a quick trial that's important because the republicans essentially want a quick trial where is the democrats say that they want to call witnesses no throw the process needs to impeach a president what's known as a supermajority that had 67 of the senators to vote to impeach donald trump at the moment the republicans have 53 so the democrats wou

keepr two, why don't you it in her pockets of the supreme court justice, in case we need to have another one, the leadere senate cannot just pass somebody through? we could use the teach mint -- impeachment as a roadblock. guest: that is playing some pretty hard politics. i do not quite see that happening, but it is intriguing, because -- i hope we get through the next year without any supreme court nominations, but that is of great concern on the democratic side, because it is a conservative majority in the court right now. and justice roberts will be presiding over this senate trial. the constitution really does not spell out what the role of the presiding officer will be. chief justice rehnquist, during the clinton trial, basically said afterwards that he got a lot of rave reviews for doing nothing and playing solitaire. he did not make any big, definitive rulings. i am sure justice roberts would like it if you could get away with that, too. but this may be a different period. but the congress comes back next , and i think that pelosi, the speaker, will hold onto the articles as long as that tactic a

although the chief justice of the supreme court of the united states john roberts essentially oversees the proceedings but how did the trial is actually conducted while that strong up by the leader of the republicans in the senate mitch mcconnell and the republicans have already said that they want to see it very short trial with no witnesses many of them of said that they've already made up their decision even though on january the 7th they'll be sworn in and they'll be asked if they are going to judge the facts impartially impartial judges of the law as well but many of them already decided that this is a political process and therefore their decisions have already been made and then on january the named both sides will be given 24 hours to present their opening statements to the senate what happens after that not entirely clear because we could call for witnesses or they could just go for a very very short trial. see the opening statements are enough there's nothing new needs to be brought in you remember the during the impeachment trial of bill clinton no new witnesses were called on to the floor and that certainly seems to be the way that the republicans are approaching thi

leader mcconnell will raise his right hand and take an oath. they wanted the senate to be a place where impartial justice where you could pursue the balance. the debate as to whether or not the supreme courtachment coming to the conclusion that may not be the best place why justices was not nat -- nominated by the president. spelling out that the president is held in check and accountable. clearly, that's not what we are hearing from the majority leader. that's why it is important we continue to press for rules in place that this is fair and as much as possible impartial and nonpartisan trial. >> what do you make of the strategy of the house speaker holding on to these articles and not delivering to the senate. engaging your eagerness to get started. are you okay with the delay we've seen in place here? >> the most important criteria is to get it right. do you want this to be an impartial justice and fair trial. many of us would also like to hear from some of the witnesses. witnesses that did not come forward. the president didn't allow certain witnesses to come forward. that is important for us to get the full picture before we make the full decision. i am a little perplexed as to why th

leader mitch mcconnell also both transformed the lower courts and stocked them with conservatives, and including a number of justice kavanaugh's former clerks who are just the farm team for the supremelutely. >> it's really a remarkable piece of work on the part of the president and with the aid, as i say, of people like the senate majority leader. >> yeah, absolutely. that's the legacy that he's been pursuing certainly in his career is leaving these kinds of appointment judges. sarah pitlyk, though, the implications of her appointment are what? >> well, it's very interesting that the american bar association's ratings are something that's been a contested point. it was actually contested when justice kavanaugh was nominated to the federal appeals court and the aba rerated him and actually lowered his rating the second time around. but nothing is stopping republicans. they have the majority in the senate, and so, these not-qualified ratings, and sarah pitlyk is not the only one -- there have been other judges, really quite i think a record number of them who have been deemed to be unqualified, and unqualified for various reasons. in sarah pitlyk's case, as i understand it, she had n