but it won't be the same company. >> leander, do you agree, he was the thomas edison of our time? >> absolutely, yeah. the henry ford and the walt disney too. his products have had as much impact as things like the telephone and the automobile. you know, they've become universal. they've changed not only the way we work but also the way we play, the way we're entertained, the way we communicate. they touch all those pieces of our lives. >> and will for a long time. >> i think one thing to talk about too, anderson, is his persona, and what a charismatic powerful individual he was on a personal level. how he was able to motivate people at apple and inspire people. and also, you know, create fear and loathing as well amongst competit competitors. not only was he changing his company but also silicon valley. everything was going on, hewlett-packard and cisco and oracle and microsoft of course. he really impacted those companies. disney, he had a huge impact. the board member of disney with pixar and the largest shareholder of disney as well, a huge impact on that company. so his tenta