you could argue at least saddam hussein got a trial. so yes, barack obama is killing people again. th method. we are not getting the intelligence we are. but i think that the administration has to somehow at least concede in some way that bush was right. they are following his way. i look at the kill list, too, we talked about it on "the five" yesterday, it seems extra judicial. very arbitrary that he the president would move by himself to have a kill list. to have his political advisor david axelrod in the room making the decision. it's the criticism of president bush for rushing roughshod over everything else and doing everything on his own. that is what president obama is doing. >> bob: first, most of the kills as you point out are somali. we don't have boots on the ground. it's difficult to extract people out of somalia. i stand second to none for my admiration for intellect for charles krauthammer behe used something that was appalling and irresponsible. he said you should go to the pakistanis and say india, we'll form a relationship with india. it has taken the clinton, bush a

least we were told at the time, to stop the spread of terrorism? >> correct. >> that was discredited that there were only tenuous connections between al qaeda and the regime of saddam hussein. and that weapons of mass destruction turns out to have been possibly a psychological operations campaign to make countries think that saddam hussein had weapons. >> what becomes clear, and i document this in one of the chapters, is that al qaeda in iraq really did not form and become an official affiliate or swear their loyalty until osama bin laden until late 2004. over a year after the regime is overthrown. by that point, al qaeda got what it had not had for several years. that is a sanctuary. province is suddenly have a sanctuary for updating 2006. now, this invasion has radicalize a number of individuals. they're getting foreign fighters coming to places like syria into iraq and volunteering to serve. the radicalizing people across different continents. they also have a sanctuary now in iraq, so they have a foothold in multiple regions. this gets us to the peak of the second wave. >> so we have the attacks overseas, not in the united states, plus we have a series of bombings that

least we were told at that time, to stop the spread of terrorism. of course that was discredited, you know, they were only a tenuous connections between al qaeda and the regime of saddam hussein. and the weapons of mass destruction turns out to have been possibly the campaign by some usian, and the operations campaign to make countries think he had weapons. >> guest: what becomes clear, and i documented some of the chapters is al qaeda and iraq really doesn't form and become an officials affiliate. that is they swear by loyalty to osama bin laden until late 2004. so over a year after the regime is overthrown, by that point, al qaeda gets what it haven't really had for several years and that is a sanctuary. some provinces like anbar suddenly have a growing sanctuary in 2004, 2005 and in 2006. so now this invasion is radicalize to number deutsch individuals. they are getting the fighters coming through places like syria into iraq and the radicalizing people across the multiple continent, and also the century in iraq. savitt got a foothold in multiple regions. so this really gets us to the peak of the second wave. >> host: we have attacks overseas, not in the united states, plus

least we were told at the time, to stop the threat of terrorism. of course later that was discredited but there were only tenuous connections between al qaeda and the regime of saddam hussein and the weapons of mass destruction turns out to have been possibly a campaign by saddam and a campaign to let countries think he had weapons. >> guest: i document this in one of the chapters, is al qaeda in iraq really did not form and become an official affiliate as a loyalty to a osama bin laden until late 2004. so over a year after the regime is overthrown. and by that point, al qaeda gets what it hasn't really had for several years and that is a sanctuary. so provinces like anbar. they suddenly have a grown sanctuary in 2004 in 2005 and into 2006. so now, this invasion has radicalize a number of individuals. they are getting foreign fighters coming to places like syria into iraq and volunteering to serve. they are radicalizing people across multiple continents, and also a sanctuary in iraq so they have got a foothold in multiple regions. this really gets us to the peak of that decade. >> host: so we have attacks overseas, not in the united states, plus we have a series of almonds