i have seen marines out of the military prison -- i have seen them in leavenworth dying in solitary confinement. marines. because they got aids or hepatitis c. convert visn's into what i call residential treatment centers. -- convert prisons. knock down the gun towers. take down the razor wires. inspired the corrections officers, the people with badges that make $150,000 a year -- inspire their asses. [applause] i am all for the union. i do not like their union. what you do is you rehire people back as correctional workers. what happens is in a state of california, where somebody needs help because they contradict or alcoholic or have a bad temper and they are going to be of their wife or sexually assault her stepdaughter -- whatever their problem is, let's do something about crime before they commit the crimes. they have this urge to do something illegal. they call the police and say, "i need help. i'm drug addicted. an alcoholic. please help me." right? they are directed to this treatment center where they can voluntary commit themselves for three to six months. they will do a workshop -- wor

they went to leavenworth. they are now looked at and studied and interviewed in a much different light, even though in the community itself there is still strong feelings and deviciveness about how they should be viewed. a lot of my research was pulled from the no no boys and resistors was pulled from the japanese american national museum. my wife and i went down there and they have on file a bunch of interviews with people, frank ami, a variety of folks who were part of the heart mountain resistors and also the no no boys. these interviews were done by frank chen, frank abe and other folks and they are all on file. i used those to make sure i created real live characters. hope that answers the question. >> who else wants to ask a question? . >> when you do research, are you able to compare the (inaudible). >> i have to admit i haven't done as much research into that area because there were germans also who went through the same thing and no i didn't. that certainly is a story that should be looked into. i kno

for example, at the army school at leavenworth or up at carlisle barracks and let them study our civil war together. then they start warming up. i think there are ways for us to build trust that will help stabilize these issues. it's fundamentally a political problem, not a military one, of urse. >> thank you. with regard to a lot of the folks that have been released, we have about 28,000 people who were detained and have been reintegrated. have you noticed -- i knowou haven't necessarily been dealing with it, but have you noticed what the recidivism rate is with these folks? have they been getting back into the battle at all? anything you can comment on at all? >> i'm not current on theit iss right now, senator. there has been some recidivism over the years that i've served there, but it's gotten better as conditions in the society got better. you've seen the plummeting nature of the attack profile where the attacks have dropped off significantly. so obviously the reintegration is going somewhat well, but that would -- i would never say there's no recidivism at all. i think that would