he was sent to fort leavenworth and a lot of people are thinking that's great. the fair hair boys sending out to pasture literally. but he realizes this is the intellectual center of the army. they form curriculum for the college, they organize the national training centers, the lessons from one affects the lessons of the other and affects the patterns of the next. and he said himself what powers he potentially had. holy cow. he talks like that like super, jeepers, holy cow they put insurgents in charge of change. he views as up as the insurgent. [laughter] knew well there is a professor named elliot cahn a historian also neil conservative, one of those uphold starting conditions to invade iraq and also part of the defense policy advisory board. he goes to iraq and is the only number that goes there and sees it is a disaster. the insurgency is mounting. he comes back feeling really upset and pangs of guilt because he was advising this administration and advocated for the war. his son had recently joined the army and was going to be sent to iraq coming into this

general david petraeus when he was in leavenworth he was not just sitting in leavenworth. he had a vast network of old colleagues in the pentagon bureaucracy. he deliberately forms a back channel. he cultivates this woman in the white house who is president bush's chief adviser on iraq in the national security council. she is wavering from the existing policy, they're talking on the phone every day. picture this. really kind of outrageous. here is general david petraeus, a three star general in fort leavenworth, she is talking on the phone every day with the senior adviser to the president of the united states. she will be asking him general kc, a four star general actually commanding troops in iraq, general kc says we only need one more brigade. what do you think? general david petraeus would mustard these arguments that she could funnel to her seniors on why this isn't really enough. when he comes to washington, they meet in out of the way restaurant. this is not a paula broad well situation. this is strictly professional. can you imagine? essentials subverting the chain

but he gets to leavenworth and realizes something.e realizes that this is actually the intellectual center of the army. they write doctrine. they formed the curriculum of the commanding general staff college. they organized the natural -- national training centers and the lessons from one affects the lessons of the other which affects the patterns of the next. and he says and self-esteem is learning how will this, what kind of power see potentially has. holy cow. he talks like that. he says things like : cal in jeepers, super. he says, holy cow, they put an insurgent in charge of the engine of change. he views himself as an insurgent now, meanwhile, meanwhile, there are a lot of meanwhiles in this book. meanwhile the mother is a professor at the school of advanced international studies in washington d.c. and the eminent military historian, also a leader of neoconservatism here is one of the people signing petitions that we have to invade and overthrow saddam by force. he is also a member of the defense policy advisory board. and so he

at the self-help center on turk and leavenworth, they throw money which is needed for the dentist awayage like that arts program which is [speaker not understood] by nobody. and this mental health and harm reduction is something made off of nothing. people are accountable for their acts or they're not accountable for their acts. this is what they talk about at mental health is a [speaker not understood] construe of good man and bad man. so, it's time that society not just san francisco face reality. there are people who need teeth and can't afford the costs that go with it. and we should redirect funding out of retarded programs like that and into intelligent progressive initiatives such as dentistry. i fully support [speaker not understood] [speaker not understood]. >> excuse me, sir. >>> yes? >> if you could speak into the microphone. >>> i'd like to commend the man speaking up for the seniors sleeping out in the streets. that's a priority as well. but the dentist is [speaker not understood]. it's nothing like a toothache or dying from one. let's get on top of the important issues ri

they went to leavenworth. they are now looked at and studied and interviewed in a much different light, even though in the community itself there is still strong feelings and deviciveness about how they should be viewed. a lot of my research was pulled from the no no boys and resistors was pulled from the japanese american national museum. my wife and i went down there and they have on file a bunch of interviews with people, frank ami, a variety of folks who were part of the heart mountain resistors and also the no no boys. these interviews were done by frank chen, frank abe and other folks and they are all on file. i used those to make sure i created real live characters. hope that answers the question. >> who else wants to ask a question? . >> when you do research, are you able to compare the (inaudible). >> i have to admit i haven't done as much research into that area because there were germans also who went through the same thing and no i didn't. that certainly is a story that should be looked into. i kno

when crack came, i was right there on leavenworth. i feel bad about that because there were kids affected by my profits. i have nieces and nephews in the western district and bayview right now. i want them to be proud of their uncle when they speak of me. that's very important. i want my mother and grandmother and them to be proud of me. so, my success is based on me helping somebody else be successful. and that's why i'm here today. and i really do think if you a -- appoint me, that i could do what i do on a bigger scale. i got a 501(c) (3) but never got it going because -- dealing with grant writers has been an obstacle for me. i didn't want that to stop what i was doing. so, i continue to do it. right now in september, god's will, i'm going to go to school for grant writing myself. if just kept waiting on the grant writers, i don't think i would be where i'm at with my organization right now. right now my organization is throughout all the correctional facilities of california. i get calls and letters all day. so, we start off smal

leavenworth. lot of people in the army didn't really like petraeus. they don't like officers who are too bookish or who stood up too much in petraeus was very much guilty on both counts so he sent to ft. leavenworth kansas. a lot of people are thinking of code that's great. a fair-haired boy and we are sending them out to pasture literally. he gets to ft. leavenworth and he realizes something. he realizes that this is actually the intellectual center of the army, they write doctrine and form the curriculum of the commanding general staff college. they organize the national training centers and they drew a loop to all of these together. the lessons from one affects the lessons of the others which affects the patterns of the next and he says to himself as he is learning what kind of powers he potentially has, he says holy cow, and he talks like that. he says things like holy cow in jeepers. he says holy cow, they have put in an surgeon in of the engine of change. he views himself as an insurgent mea

from the development of the counterinsurgency doctrine that general petraeus had overseen at fort leavenworth, and as importantly, the idea of the way the battlefield was developing, developed by general order you know, the second-in-command in iraq. at that time surfing -- since he was responsible for designing the operation and had as his mission built to make a rapid transition to the iraqi security forces under increasingly degrading conditions. i think that he very fundamentally saw what was needed in theater. he recommended that happened to coincide with some of the other things being developed in washington. >> host: i guess that sometimes i don't understand the complete timeline. people associate petraeus and the surge, and was a petraeus counterinsurgency manual and doctrine are coming to the top, ma or was it the search and petraeus was the right man for the job, which came first? >> guest: that's a question i'm not sure i can answer. but what i would say is it's important to remember that the army is a thinking and adapting institution. and our armed forces at the senior level, mid

this includes attendance at schools, the army at leavenworth, the air force.it's all the schools in the united states. >> i just don't believe that we can afford to send a message that we are pulling back. that is important testimony. general jacoby, staying in the same part of the world come you talked about this relationship with mexico. >> senator, i am happy to report that we have a strong relationship with mexico. relatively recent phenomenon, i have been involved with mexico over the last decade or so. it is really in the last three to four years that our military to military engagement has become a rich exchange between equals. we change administrations and i know that the two gentlemen who became the heads are tremendous professional officers. very eager to sustain and grow the military to military relationship. it is a very beneficial situation for both countries to do that. i am proud of what we have accomplished. >> a few very much. >> senator fisher? >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, gentlemen, for being here. i thank you for your service, i a

this includes attendance at schools, the army at leavenworth, the air force.it's all the schools in the united states. >> i just don't believe that we can afford to send a message that we are pulling back. that is important testimony. general jacoby, staying in the same part of the world come you talked about this relationship with mexico. >> senator, i am happy to report that we have a strong relationship with mexico. relatively recent phenomenon, i have been involved with mexico over the last decade or so. it is really in the last three to four years that our military to military engagement has become a rich exchange between equals. we change administrations and i know that the two gentlemen who became the heads are tremendous professional officers. very eager to sustain and grow the military to military relationship. it is a very beneficial situation for both countries to do that. i am proud of what we have accomplished. >> a few very much. >> senator fisher? >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, gentlemen, for being here. i thank you for your service, i a