host: do you think, governor leavitt, the president should concede? guest: i think the president does have the right to pursue whatever remedy is available under the law. a concession is a nicety. i do think it would be better if he did transition activities. there's no reason they can't coexist. oregon.an in hermiston, go ahead and talk through your phone. brian, you got to turn the television down. caller: ok, just a second. host: all right, go ahead please. caller: yeah, i'm a republican and i'm a little disheartened by president trump, not allowing the transition to proceed because he is putting our country in danger. joe biden won the election. the people voted. i voted for trump. i think he needs to be responsible and allow the transition to proceed because it , andour country at danger he is continuing to challenge tod there's for him win. i do not understand why he does not proceed and let joe biden have his transition. host: ok, brian. nancy in houston. hi, i have been following on the pandemic and talking about the vaccines and they were say

governor leavitt, what do you think? guest: well, the federal reserve -- first of all, i am not well enough acquainted with federal for the statutes surrounding the federal reserve, to know what we would need to do. but i do think it is worth reflecting that the federal veryve jumped in in the big way. i think $3 trillion of liquidity. the federal government has put forward a quite dramatic effort to keep the economy going. know more about that. he does point out something that i think is worth commenting on for us as a generation. we reflected some on my efforts to prepare the country for a 2007 andin 2006 and 2000 eight. you asked what i learned. one of the things i learned is that anything you say in advance of a pandemic sounds alarmist. people cannot conceive of it. donenything that you have after it starts to prepare for it seems inadequate. that is the dilemma. you are dealing with so many needs we have is a country, having the discipline to regularly invest in what we are not experiencing, but could and that coul

host: joining us this morning is michael leavitt. he is the former health and human services secretary in the george w. bush administration. wornnor leavitt, you have many hats over your career. one of them is also helping a campaign prepare for transition. you did that for mitt romney. election,win that explain the process for when

host: do you think, governor leavitt, the president should concede?i think the president does have the right to pursue whatever remedy is available under the law. a concession is a nicety. i do think it would be better if he did transition activities. there's no reason they can't coexist. oregon.an in hermiston, go ahead and talk through your phone. brian, you got to turn the television down. caller: ok, just a second. host: all right, go ahead please. caller: yeah, i'm a republican and i'm a little disheartened by president trump, not allowing the transition to proceed because he is putting our country in danger. joe biden won the election. the people voted. i voted for trump. i think he needs to be responsible and allow the transition to proceed because it , andour country at danger he is continuing to challenge tod there's for him win. i do not understand why he does not proceed and let joe biden have his transition. host: ok, brian. nancy in houston. hi, i have been following on the pandemic and talking about the vaccines and they were saying the

joining me now to talk about this is justin leavitt, a law professor at loyola law school in los angeles. thanks so much for joining us. >> pleasure to be with you. >> talk about going to the polls tomorrow, first and foremost, president trump has solicited for people to sign up to be poll watchers. what are their roles? it's not a new thing. >> it's not. and done right, very boring. allows people to come to the polls and watch and make sure everything is going according to the rules and how it should be. there are very strict rules on interferi interfering with or intimidating voters in the election process. and officials have a lot of tools to make sure those there to watch are there to just watch, look, not touch. >> where is that line between poll watching, legal, and intimidation, illegal? >> i think people expect boisterous activity in and around election day. we've had that quite a while and more than 100 feet from the polls can include calling out candidates and measures and encouraging people to vote for specific things. once you get inside that window though, it's much differen

overnor michael leavitt is our guest. you you live in the eastern part of the here are the numbers you can call. 202-748-8000 we are also talking about the mpact of this delay on the covid-19 pandemic response. .edical provider year health and human services secretary hat on as problems couldof his delay present for responding to the pandemic, whether that is distribution of other areas? guest: i think the area people concerned most about would e the handoff of the vaccine distributi distribution. i think it would be vastly direct f there was cooperation between the teams. think that is a big part of meaning the outgoing and incoming administration. we ought not to see it as a complete collapse. if you're a mechanical providered a looking for that to come, i still think were of that will happen. i think there is a quit sophisticated operation that by private ucted sector vendors and i'm talking about big medical distributors going to every clinic, doctor's ital, every office on a regular basis to deliver this. i want to e

>>ample time put something certification post litigation time mike leavitt, former utah governor and 2012 transition director for mitt romney says a delay isn't ideal. >>but it is manageable and does not mean that the incoming administration can be a lot of planning and doing whatever they. >>can to be ready leavitt says the trump administration can work with the biden team, even as election lawsuits continue look we can do both these things the same time. this doesn't have to be big political. and that was joe khalil reporting yesterday alaska, the clear president trump, the winner there are warning him the 3 electoral votes. >>meanwhile, there will be a hand recount of ballots in the state of georgia. well currently president elect joe biden leads president trump by approximately 14,000 votes. the georgia secretary of state said that his office once a process to begin by the end of the weekend. he expects it to take least until november 20th. governor dan patrick is backing trump's effort and is offering a 1 million dollar reward for voter fraud tips. well, the republicans success

>>ample time put something certification post litigation time mike leavitt, former utah governor and 2012 transition director for mitt romney says had to wait isn't ideal. >>but it is manageable and does not mean that the incoming administration can be a lot planning and doing whatever they. >>can to be ready leavitt says the trump administration can work with the biden team, even as election lawsuits continue look we can do both these things the same time. this doesn't have to be a big political. >>that was joe khalil reporting tonight earlier today alaska to clear president trump the winner there a warning him its 3 electoral votes meanwhile, there will be a hand recount of ballots in the state of georgia currently president elect. joe biden leads president trump by approximately 14,000 votes in georgia today, the georgia secretary of state said at a news conference at his office wants the process to begin by the end of the week and he expects it to take until november 20th. >>texas lieutenant governor dan patrick is backing trump's efforts and is offering a 1 million dollar reward

>>ample time put something certification post litigation time mike leavitt, former utah governor and 2012 transition director for mitt romney says had to wait isn't ideal. >>but it is manageable and does not mean that the incoming administration can be a lot planning and doing whatever they. >>can to be ready leavitt says the trump administration can work with the biden team, even as election lawsuits continue look we can do both these things the same time. this doesn't have to be a big political. >>now as joe khalil reporting today alaska declared president trump, the winner of that state's election, a warning him 3 electoral votes meanwhile, georgia's secretary of state announced today. his state will recounts the ballots by hand. >>president trump made his first public appearance since joe biden declared victory the president participated in the veterans day observance at arlington national cemetery today, this is video of him taking part in the lane of a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier, the president did not make any remarks today. president-elect joe biden made his vet

>>ample time put something certification post litigation time mike leavitt, former utah governor and 2012 transition director for mitt romney says had to wait isn't ideal. >>but it is manageable and does not mean that the incoming administration can be a lot of planning and doing whatever they. >>can to be ready leavitt says the trump administration can work with the biden team, even as election lawsuits continue look we can do both these things the same time. this doesn't have to be a big political. >>7.52. we'll be right back. >>welcome back 7.55 getting close to the 8 o'clock hour now and we are looking conditions outside just as cold as they were a few minutes ago, in fact a couple spots in the north bay like fairfield only in the upper 20's or inland areas, definitely the coldest spots right now while the creek clear skies here in the 30's currently as for coastal areas you may be starting off this morning a bit more mild than the rest of us. but you're going to be a bit cooler come the afternoon then the rest of us highs in the 50's right along the coastline in the meantime our

david leavitt's a small berlin, open minded, sexually liberated the coolest city in europe. the place where everyone wants to be . but imagine suddenly it's filled with hate discrimination and violence. it's hard to believe it could happen today. and it was just as hard to believe when it was happening in 1938 like many german jews also doesn't want to believe that her family is in danger. but when the nazis start torching synagogues and destroying jewish businesses, she takes her daughters and flees. she leaves behind her husband, her friends, her wealthy lifestyle, and her freedom. as is daughter and give you a book about her mother. it's called you are not like other mothers. she has a party animal with a stable of lovers and 3 children by 3 different men, pretty wild for the daughter of a well to do family. she recognized no conventions kept, no accounts had no pretensions. when i tried to describe her to myself or to others, i repeatedly come back to the word genuine and her daughter's a scape, just in time to bulgaria. they lived there in poverty until after the war. w

david leavitt's has mall berlin, open minded, sexually liberated the coolest city in europe, the place where everyone wants to be. but imagine suddenly it's filled with hate discrimination and violence. it's hard to believe it could happen today. and it was just as hard to believe when it was happening in 1938 and like many german jews, i was a doesn't want to believe that her family is in danger. but when the nazis start torching synagogues and destroying jewish businesses, she takes her daughters and flees. she leaves behind her husband, her friends, her wealthy lifestyle, and her freedom. i was this daughter and give you a book about her mother. it's called you are not like other mothers. as a party animal with a stable of lovers and 3 children by 3 different men. pretty wild for the daughter of a well to do family. she recognized no conventions kept no accounts had no pretensions. when i tried to describe her to myself or to others, i repeatedly come back to the word genuine. and her daughter's a scape, just in time to bulgaria. they lived there and poverty until after the war. whe

former utah governor and george w bush administration's health and human services secretary michael leavitt discusses the delay in the transition and the potential impact on the coronavirus pandemic response. watch "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern sunday morning. join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, text messages, and tweets. next, a conversation with john bolton, the former national security adviser to president trump. he spoke about reports the president was going to strike iran, the firing of chris krebs and mark esper, and plans to withdraw troops. this runs 30 minutes. this is half an hour. >> good afternoon ira robert acosta with the washington post. we welcome back one of the more high-profile former members of president trump's administration. now a high-profile critic an ambassador, john bolton. welcome back. >> got to be with you. bolton, as you commit deeply that president trump will take action against iran? i think the reports that he asks for options is fairly typical of the erratic idiosyncratic ill form that he makes decisions. the thought o

david leavitt's has mall berlin, open minded, sexually liberated the coolest city in europe. the place where everyone wants to be . but imagine suddenly it's filled with hate discrimination and violence. it's hard to believe it could happen today. and it was just as hard to believe when it was happening in 1938 and like many german jews also doesn't want to believe that her family is in danger. but when the nazis start torching synagogues and destroying jewish businesses, she takes her daughters and flees. she leaves behind her husband, her friends, her wealthy lifestyle, and her freedom. as is daughter and a book about her mother, it's called you are not like other mothers. she portrays as a party animal with a stable of lovers and 3 children by 3 different men. pretty wild for the daughter of a well to do family. she recognized no conventions. no accounts had no pretensions. when i tried to describe her to myself or to others, i repeatedly come back to the word genuine. and her daughter's a scape, just in time to bulgaria. they lived there in poverty until after the war. wh

michaeltah governor leavitt discusses the delay in the white house transition and potential impact on the coronavirus response. watch "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern sunday morning. be sure to join the discussion with your text messages and tweets. >> bill gates joined the ceo of pfizer and the head of the vaccine confidence progress -- project for discussion on the coronavirus pandemic and an effort to develop a vaccine. they talked about the results for ongoing vaccine trials from pfizer and moderna, the distribution process when a vaccine is ready, and the public's overall trust in getting inoculated. this is just under an hour. ed. this is just under an hour. >> welcome back. it is a privilege to be with all of you. we have a very special conversation planned for right now. we want it to be as interactive as possible. we hope you join us in the comments for questions you can bring to our guests, and also we are planning to ask you a couple

former utah governor and george w bush administration's health and human services secretary michael leavitt discusses the delay in the transition and the potential impact on the coronavirus pandemic response. watch "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern sunday morning. join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, text messages, and tweets. next, a conversation with john bolton, the former national security adviser to president trump. he spoke about reports the president was going to strike iran, the firing of chris krebs and mark esper, and plans to withdraw troops. this runs 30 minutes. this is half an hour. >> good afternoon ira robert acosta with the washington post. we welcome

justin leavitt, a professor at loyola law school, found out of a billion ballots cast between 2014, there were just 31 cases of voter impersonation. mail-in ballot fraud is equally rare. in oregon, with more than 100 million mail-in ballots sent out since 2000, there have been only a dozen cases of proven fraud. the conservative heritage foundation has tried some scam mongering alleging 1,300 proven instances of voter fraud in america without noting this is out of more than 1 billion ballots cast in the last 40 years. two brooking scholars revealed that the number of fraud cases heritage found in colorado, for example, were 14 out of almost 16 million ballots cast, or approximately 0.00009%. in other words, virtually non-existent. trump's allegations, his lawsuits and rhetoric might have little factual substance, but they all will have lasting consequences. they undermine faith in the american system. trump and his republican allies blistering attacks are music to the ears of russian nationalists and chinese communists. they have been saying all along that american democracy is a sham. no

david leavitt's has mall berlin, open minded, sexually liberated the coolest city in europe. the place where everyone wants to be . but imagine suddenly it's filled with hate discrimination and violence. it's hard to believe it could happen today. and it was just as hard to believe when it was happening in 1938 and like many german jews also doesn't want to believe that her family is in danger. but when the nazis start torching synagogues and destroying jewish businesses, she takes her daughters and flees. she leaves behind her husband, her friends, her wealthy lifestyle, and her freedom. as is daughter and wrote a book about her mother, it's called you are not like other mothers. she portrays as a party animal with a stable of lovers and 3 children by 3 different men. pretty wild for the daughter of a well to do family. she recognized no conventions kept no accounts had no pretensions. when i tried to describe her to myself or to others, i repeatedly come back to the word genuine. and her daughters escape just in time to bulgaria. they live there in poverty until after the w

from a concentration camp, which was made into a movie join the war, starring spencer tracy, david leavitt's as more see no evil hear no evil after world war 2. a lot of people here in germany claimed they had no idea what the nazis were up to. really the 7th cross is one of the books that shows us how much people in nazi germany could have known early on author and as a goes was jewish and a communist and fleeing for her life. when she started writing the book in 1938,, the book came out during world war 2, 1st in the u.s., then in mexico, where she was living in exile after the war. and i lived in this building in east berlin, like her biography of the 7th cross is an escape story. it's about 7 concentration camp inmates who break free and the commander of the camp. that was to capture them . he puts up 7, crosses for their 7 bodies, one by 16 of the crosses are filled. we won't have to wait much longer for the subject, for he is on his way to. the national socialist state relentlessly prosecutes. anyone who commits an offense against the national community, it protects that which is worth

i had gotten numbers at about 2:00 and in one polling place in leavitt town, bucks counties, which isrepublican democrat, we saw numbers at about 1500, when you include the mail-in ballots and the total for that day was 1900 in 2016. connell: what about the mail-in ballots and counting of those ballots? i know in bucks county officials i spoke to earlier said they started the process to process ballots at 7:00 this morning. tabulation starts at 8:00 tonight. other counties will delay things a little bit in terms of countying. are you worried about the on the democratic side because they skew democratic. >> we always have a concern about the unknown. the county made it a bipartisan effort trying to insure every vote will count. i think they are prepared as one can be under these circumstances. so, i don't expect significant delays here in bucks county. i can't really speak for the rest of the state but i would agree with you that at this point, based upon the amount of returns of ballots that i've seen in bucks county, which would kind of, i guess mimic the southeastern part of the sta

fisher's arguments about the rule of leavitt. he seems to think if this is a toss-up or looks like a toss-up we should rely on that since this is a criminal statute. what is your response to that? >> i have two. 'm happy to get into this. i don't think there is an ambiguous statute. it clearly supports us and his reading is insupportable. and i'll get back to that, the court does think the rule ought to apply here, the better place is on words like authorization or with the word use which has to require that the access is instrumental to obtaining data that the -- that otherwise would be inaccessible. >> that's good enough. i would like to go to something slightly different. the language before the 1984 amendments seem to cover this more precisely or expressly. and we have a change in the few words and flows a bit better. would you explain without getting too much in the legislative history, the change in language and why you think it actually expands its coverage as opposed to compressing as mr. fisher seems to think. >> i don't

governor leavitt, thank you. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> all right. and next, president trump not just contesting but firing his defense secretary. and now senior administration official and three former administration officials tell cnn they expect cia director gina haspel is next. and the trump campaign just filing a lawsuit to block the results from pennsylvania's election as more votes are coming in from that state. the margin getting wider. what does it mean for the possibility of a recount? we're going to show you exactly the math at the magic wall. and the number of people who have tested positive for coronavirus after atengd trump's election night party, well, guess what, people have it and the numbers grow. i use rakuten to get cash back in-store and online. i just got to shop online and i get cash back. i love using rakuten during the holidays, because i can get the sale and i can get cash back. and it's so easy and the best way to start off the new year. sign up today and get cash back with rakuten. on the sleep number number's 360 smart be

you mentioned your former governors, mike leavitt was on the show the other night.ing in private many more republicans are doing what you're doing in public. they won't do it in public, but they're doing it in private. just listen. >> they call me to say, you know, congratulations, please convey my well wishes to the president-elect, but i can't say that publicly yet. >> are you having similar conversations with republicans behind the scenes? >> look, absolutely. you know, the average republican senator is not an idiot. they understand that, you know, that trump has lost. >> we are getting calls from republicans into our office saying hey, thank the congressman. i can't really say much out here, but thank him for just doing the right thing. >> so, the last voice you heard there governor-elect was republican congressman denver riggleman. he was on the show last night. he congratulated joe biden, just like you've been doing. why do you think it is that other republicans are refusing to acknowledge this in public? what's your thinking as to why? >> well, unfortunately,

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. >> reporter: law professor justin leavitt is an election law expert who works for the u.s. we talked to agreed with his assessment. >> can any of these lawsuits make up the difference for the president? >> in a word, no there has been no legal claim whatsoever that would justify invalidating or otherwise overturning 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 ballots. it is simply not going to happen. >> reporter: john and his team of ph.d.s do both historical and statistical analysis of results and show us why. arizona, called by nbc news last night for vice president biden, who is ahead by about 12,000 votes. in court yesterday the trump team arguing that a procedural mistake, not fraud, had been made in maricopa county involving under 200 ballots. >> it certainly wouldn't have any impact on the final result. >> reporter: what about pennsylvania, where biden leads by about 50,000 votes. a pennsylvania appeals court ruled yesterday some absentee ballots should not be counted. but they have been kept out of the total, so no gain there. is there evidence of fraud >> we've been scrubbing through

governor leavitt, you have worn many hats. ae of them also helming transition. you did that for mitt romney. he did not win that election, for whenin the process these campaigns start thinking about a possible transition of po