millionaires than in anywhere in south africa, we are in a hotel and probably a mile away from leavmentd alexander township. hihidden from view, there are people there that i guess at the end of apartheid, people thought would come better bus service and running waters, these are folks not looking to be rich, they thought there was a deal coming to them. i guess this is an expectation that everybody who turns to democracy and human rights looks for. >> well, that's one of the problems that exist. a few years ago my wife and i came here with a bunch of volunteers to build 100 homes in durbi rbin. they are not forced to live there now but they live there because of inhairnts poverty and they haven't been able to being escape. >> that's a good distinction. they are not forced to live there because of law but they don't have the economic choice to get out. >> that everywhere in the world, in our country as well, where there's a wide diversity between the people who are getting richer and richer and the poor people relatively speaking who are not makings as much progress. i can't criticize president um