and educating people, talking to people, changing their minds by means of television, internet, lectu lecturing, everything. as a journalist, i can tell you for sure, give me or natella, we can make a dream team of russian journalists and if we make it to the russian nation television and spend there, like, several months, i can tell you, the culture will change. i mean, people will change. it's -- this -- the way how propaganda has worked in the past 15 years and we've seen how quickly it changed the minds of certain people. it can work the opposite way, too. so i absolutely believe there is a chance, and while i personally will do my best to take advantage of that chance, because like i said, any other thing, the country falling apart, the civil war in russia, everything else that can happen, this will not make the world a better place. >> i would say something, just give me a second. it seems like you want to change, just to dramatize it, you want to change it as you think is right for russia. they think who are now in charge, this is what is right for russia, too. one way or anoth