professor lederer: that's right. they relied on laws that states had passed that made the bodies of the unclaimed or indigent available. even the people were trying to donate their bodies, medical schools didn't -- they were afraid of lawsuits or a relative changing their mind or, you know, they just did not want to be bothered by that. they much preferred anonymous bodies. bill: tell us about the logistics for organ transplants to be more common across the country? professor lederer: i need to tell you the conventional story and the story that i am somewhat more interested in. the conventional story about him when organ transplantation began is in the 19 -- the 1950's with the first kidney transplant between two identical twins in a massachusetts hospital in 1954. it takes off from their. again, that is to overlook american investment in the repair of the body, its function or appearance. i include the thyroid gland. this is the heyday of the, you know, sort of the glands. the idea that internal secretions in the bo