the bible belt was the same -- was the place that lee atwater built his strength, ed.anged much since. there was a time where there's kind of been an ebb and flow where we've had people with a little bit of rational insight into what mixing politics and religion does to both politics and religion. they understand that if you have a political party that's associated with the religious party, as each one rises, it rises. but as each one falls, it falls, as well. lee atwater, thought he could drive a heart through the democratic party in the south by doing that. and you know what, he accomplished it. but the fringe is still spinning off and michele bachmann represents that fringe. and there is a kickback taking place somewhat, even in the south today. >> i find it amazing, stephanie, that she quotes a biblical story, david and goliath and equates it to hillary clinton. your thoughts on that. >> yeah, they're very selective, aren't they, with their bible quoting. the thing that jesus talked most about, ed, of course, was helping the poor. which is the thing the republican