jon: lee atwater.ng and your a book, lee atwater proposed donald trump as a possible running mate. trump have been having conversations. atwater goes to bush and says that trump is willing to be considered, and he says andange, unbelievable," moves on from it. again, note st. george here. he knew how to fight. he knew how to win. charlie: or he had some videos do it for him. jon: but it is all on him. charlie: in his name. the it is his name on ballot. it is his name in the history books, and it is one of the things of his life that makes fascinating. his mother said do not use the first person pronoun. do not talk about how well you did. talk about how well the team did. ," had a nickname of "half because he would have half a candy bar. -- as early,nning the first reported moment is in mrs. bush a proxy is diary, which he very generously let me read. published after his death, but he gave you remission. you are, and i said, not going anywhere. the only condition on the project, and this says a lot, th

jon: lee atwater.rlie: and there is a thing in your book lee atwater proposed , donald trump as a possible running mate. jon: atwater and trump have been having conversations. atwater goes to bush and says that trump is willing to be considered, and he says in his vice presidential diary "strange, unbelievable," and , moves on from it. again, no st. george here. he knew how to fight. he knew how to win. charlie: or he had someone else's do it for him. jon: but it is all on him. charlie: in his name. jon: it is his name on the ballot. it is his name in the history books, and it is one of the tensions of his life, that makes him a fascinating. his mother said do not use the first person pronoun. do not talk about how well you did in the baseball game, talk about how well the team did. he had a nickname of "have half," because he would have half a candy bar and give the other kid. but he wanted everything in public life, and was running -- as early, the first reported -- recorded moment is in mrs. bush's

lee atwater. there is a thing in your book, lee atwater proposed donald trump as a possible running mate. >> atwater and trump had been having conversations. atwater went to vice president bush at that time and said trump was willing to be considered. in bush's diary he says, strange, unbelievable, and moves on from it. again, no st. george here. he knew how to fight. he knew how to win. >> rose: or he had somebody else do it for him. >> well, right. but it's all on him. >> rose: right. and -- >> in his name. in his name on the ballot and in the history books, and it's one of the tensions of his life, what's makes him fascinating is his mother said don't use first person pronoun. his name was have half bush because he would cut a candy bar in half and give it to the other kid but have half bush wanted everything in public life and was running with the first recorded moment is in mrs. bush's diary which he generously let me read, she kept it 1948 forward -- >> rose: meant to be published after his

it goes back to really 1988 when lee atwater was working for george h.w. bush.hat was a time that you saw -- did you see today, brian, dan quayle went into trump tower? >> yes. >> it was almost ironic, because in 1988, george bush said that campaign -- i think he was talking about veteran of wars was defending dan quayle about the draft ordinance. he said quale didn't burn his draft card and he didn't burn the american flag. george bush went to flag factories to try to get a constitutional amendment against flag burning. that was turned down by the senate 51-48. >> michael, you sent out today on your terrific daily twitter feed the picture of the oval office during a transition of a much different kind after the death of jfk transitioning to lbj. the power and glory that comes with it, that's the ball game. when do you think things will start to get more serious in trump world? they faced real constitutional questions as the first president-elect with so many foreign and domestic business entanglements, to name another area. >> well, you can only hope, and i thi

like lee atwater was back then. he's not flamboyant. during this hud scandal in the late 80's, he played a part in the directing of federal funds. he said flat out to the public that some call it lobbying and some call it influence titling. it is just a matter of how you define it. that was a glib statement that efined his career. carol: you made a lot of money doing this. you profile him. he's a nice dresser. he has lovely places. he is a low-key guy but he is involved, from one we are hearing, still, in the trump administration. and the forming of what's to come. >> he was in touch directly with trump on how to handle the jim comey revelations that the fbi was going to look again at hillary's emails and more closer to the final days, he was one of the ones who was saying you have to go back to michigan. you can win michigan and sure enough, trump did win michigan. >> tell us about the background and how they got to know each other. >> they met in the 70's through oy cohn of all people. where like ragtime, famous people meet each other

he's worthy as lee atwater was for bush 41. as karl rove was for 43. as valerie jarrett was. i'm not talking about their personal beliefs. what i'm talking about is their ability to help the president govern. and that's what steve bannon has to be about. but reince priebus is primary as the chief of staff who makes everything flow. he is the control mechanism as every other chief of staff has been. >> thank you. pleasure. >> up next, we'll look at steve bannon's background and why he's such a controversial figure. a decadent crab cake, and a lobster tail topped with white wine butter. or the new wild-caught lobster & shrimp trio crispy and garlic grilled red shrimp, and a lobster tail with creamy lobster mac-and-cheese? you wanted a feast, you got it. feasts like these make the holidays the holidays, so come try one before it ends. asmy family tree,ing i discovered a woman named marianne gaspard... it was her french name. then she came to louisiana as a slave. i became curious where in africa she was from. so i took the ancestry dna test to find out more about my african root

do we remember lee atwater and the tricks that he used to play? do we remember that after ronald reagan secured the republican nomination for president in 1980 his first stop was philadelphia, mississippi, where the three civil rights workers were murdered. this has been a pattern for the longest time and now it is coming to a head under the donald trump banner. >> no doubt about it. and, richard, you know, again, we're against discriminating and attacks on any. we denounce that. to act like the discrimination is more against whites given unemployment, statistics, criminal justice, the facts bear out whether discrimination remains. we need all americans around us. but i want to ask you something about you have said that you have seen a spike in incidents of hate and intimidation since the election. watch this, richard. >> symbols of hate, spray painted on a playground in brooklyn have sparked outrage. that play dwround named after the late beastie boys star adam yao. >> someone put swastikas on the playground where children play. >> racial message

like lee atwater or roger stone. he's not a public guy. he's not flamboyant. was brought into this hud scandal in the late 1980's, he played a part in the directing of federal funds. for a project in new jersey, he actually said flat out to the public, some call it lobbying and some call it influence peddling. it depends upon how you define it. and that was sort of a glib statement that defined his career. carol: he made a lot of money doing this. you profile him. he's a nice dresser. he has lovely places. he is a low-key guy, but he is involved, from one we are hearing, still, in the trump administration. and in the farming of what is to come. >> in the final days of the campaign, he was in touch directly with trump on how to handle the jim comey revelations that the fbi was going to look, again at hillary clinton's he mails. he was one of those saying you have to go back to michigan to do you can win michigan, and sure enough, trump did win michigan. oliver: tell us about the background and how they got to know each other. trump and manafort. >> they first m

that there is a kind of inner circle political and in the old arrangement, you have your -- your lee atwaterover to the r.n.c. or karl rove or you have david axelrod. the person who maintains the political brief and there's often a lot of sloshing around behind what's policy and the role of the presidency and what meetings the political advisor sits in. and that will be really, really interesting. because tending that political base will be quite important because you can imagine that that will give donald trump a lot of power in dealing with congress. charlie: you also wonder whether this whole idea of the speculation about a television network, whether that could still be a real idea on the part of jared kushner, his son-in-law. maureen: yeah. he's been talking to banks about it. but i think they have bigger fish to fry now. charlie: it was historic last night. as we watched these things come in. and most of the questions remain. we've talked about many of them today but those are the questions that remain. because the hard part begins now in putting together a government and finding out w

he is not a public guy like lee atwater or roger stone. he is not flamboyant. he played a part in the directing of federal funds rate project in new jersey. -- for a project in new jersey. that was a glib statement that would define his career. is a nice dresser, he's got homes around the country in some really lovely places. he is a low-key guy, but he is involved in the trump administration. >> he was in touch directly with trump about how to handle the jim comey revelations that the fbi was going to look again at hillary's emails. closer to the final days, he was saying you have to go back to michigan, you could win michigan. have some great details in the story about their background, how the two got to know each other. >> they first met personally in the 1970's rue roy cohn -- through roy cohn. then, he used paul manafort's firma for lobbying purposes to defend his casinos against any and casinos that were going to come up. that's indian casinos that were going to come up. trump came and visited and took a look at the campaign operations and asked question