lee atwater -- >> guess who wrote them a letter and told them to stop it. me.nd they stopped it. >> yeah. after a few weeks. >> david, i know -- you know, i admire what you did in your campaign and you were very, very effective, but look, michael dukakis in a debate when he was asked if someone broke into your house, murdered his wife and raped her, if he would then support the death penalty, and he said no. >> in kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an ir revocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i don't, bernard. i've opposed the death penalty my whole life. >> we didn't have anything to do with that. >> no, listen, i've thrown hard punches in my career. but i'm -- i'm interested in the issue of race. lee atwater, who was a great political tactician, was one of your -- he was manager before you came back. he was really central to that campaign, said, when he was dying some years after that, that he regretted that. and he said he gretd saying we're going to strip the bark off the little bastard and make willie horton his running mate. so