. >> lee bollinger, you had a forum on these issues at columbia in which a singaporean government minister spoke. and he made some very crudely this case against the american notion of a first amendment. he basically said, look. we're an island, we're a city-state, a small city-state with big neighbors, we have a very fragile ethnic balance, we prize stability. we have a very open economy. these groups that rate freedom of the press rate us below guinea and iraq and zimbabwe was the other one. singaporeans aren't killing one another, this is a stable society, as long as the media operate within certain constraints, so be it. singapore is a very small place. but that seems to be -- this seems to be a view out there, certainly in the far east, that you can develop your economy, moving people in larger asian countries like the ones that rebecca covered by the tens to hundreds of millions out of rural poverty, is more important than having an argument about which person should be running which provincial government. we don't need your -- your ideas are culture-bound. what's our answer to that