put it, this was the wrong _ but as lee cain put it, this was the wrong crisis — but as lee cain pute — wrong crisis for his skill set. there are _ wrong crisis for his skill set. there are numerous examples of him failing _ there are numerous examples of him failing to _ there are numerous examples of him failing to engage with the science, is taking _ failing to engage with the science, is taking a — failing to engage with the science, is taking a percentage of 4%, for example. — is taking a percentage of 4%, for example, for 0.04%, so, 100 times smaller, _ example, for 0.04%, so, 100 times smaller, and — example, for 0.04%, so, 100 times smaller, and when patrick vallance patiently explains this mistake to him, _ patiently explains this mistake to him. he — patiently explains this mistake to him, he says, so what is a 0.04, if it is— him, he says, so what is a 0.04, if it is hot— him, he says, so what is a 0.04, if it is hota_ him, he says, so what is a 0.04, if it is not a percentage? he has illustrated how poorly he understood the science. �* , illustrated how poorly he understo

with lee cain again, mr cummings again and this time mr case.avin discussed it at the covid committee miting it was unions presses for mask, no science back up. gavin was in no surrender mode and didn't want to give an inch to the unions so said we should hold firm. pm gave full support and in his conclusions, his third conclusion is, at every turn, pm backs expletive no surrender ideas from hancock and shapps and totally regrets it later. when it comes to consultation with, working _ when it comes to consultation with, working with unions, do we see here the proof— working with unions, do we see here the proof in — working with unions, do we see here the proof in the pudding in that we have the _ the proof in the pudding in that we have the policy that you obviously saw as _ have the policy that you obviously saw as wrong—headed, arrived at further— saw as wrong—headed, arrived at further to— saw as wrong—headed, arrived at further to being pointlessly opposition with the unions? no, the reali is opposition with the unions? no, the reality is t

mr cummings asks the lee cain if you could just scroll into that screenshot . scroll into that screenshotode . i've literally said jaws mode. i've literally said the same thing ten times and he still won't absorb it. i'm exhausted talking to him. i've had to sit for two hours just to stop him saying stupid things . stop him saying stupid things. mr johnson , you would be inhuman mr johnson, you would be inhuman , perhaps if you hadn't in that terrible week , oscillated and terrible week, oscillated and backed and veered in your own mind about what had to be done . mind about what had to be done. but is it fair to say that you made your doubts and your oscillation clear to those around you? >> i think it was my job to address all the consequences of what we were doing and to test out the policy , which i was . as out the policy, which i was. as you can see, determined that we deliver and get on and do . and deliver and get on and do. and it was even though it was a completely novel policy. absolutely dramatic thing to do . absolutely dramatic thing to do. i what what he's referring to here

and even boris johnson's own supporters like cain, own supporters, like lee cain, the press secretaryress secretary, said boris has skills, but he boris has many skills, but he was person that was a wrong person for that moment history. moment in uk history. >> keir starmer has said continually he'd locked continually he'd have locked down longer and more often. he said that when the lockdowns were on was saying we've got said that when the lockdowns weextend was saying we've got said that when the lockdowns weextend itwas saying we've got said that when the lockdowns weextend it now. laying we've got said that when the lockdowns weextend it now. we1g we've got said that when the lockdowns weextend it now. we alliie've got said that when the lockdowns weextend it now. we all knowgot to extend it now. we all know now nobody ever did a cost now that nobody ever did a cost analysis of lockdown compared to keeping society open and trying to isolate those most at risk, at risk from the pandemic. nick, we know it's catastrophic. we'll be paying the cost financially , be paying the cost fina

for example, lee cain was his former communications chief, he talked about how this was the wrong crisisof it is about learning lessons from covid—19 and of course borisjohnson will be watched by family members of the bereaved, those who lost loved ones, who have been going along to the enquiry each day and holding up photos of those they lost and they are looking for answers. for photos of those they lost and they are looking for answers.— are looking for answers. for the moment. _ are looking for answers. for the moment, thank— are looking for answers. for the moment, thank you _ are looking for answers. for the moment, thank you very - are looking for answers. for the moment, thank you very much. | two people have been pulled from the rubble of a home in edinburgh, after it was destroyed in a suspected gas explosion last night. witnesses reported hearing the blast from several miles away, with neighbours saying they could feel their homes shaking. the scottish fire and rescue service said two properties were affected and specialist resources had been allocated to the area. a federalju

so this is sort of coming going against dominic cummings cain and all cummings and lee cain and all theus civil servants who have kind of the finger have kind of pointed the finger at johnson and said at boris johnson and said he's he's blame. he's going to he's to blame. he's going to say, well, yes, there were delays, ultimately i got the delays, but ultimately i got the big right. big calls right. >> very interesting to >> it'll be very interesting to see that. >> and he also broke his own lockdown well . so lockdown rules as well. so i don't know. i think i do cut bofis don't know. i think i do cut boris a bit of slack because i don't think any leader in the world was prepared for covid. i don't think anyone could have been really. he got it right. but i think he did show his incompetence in competency as leader. >> i just think it's i, i have >> ijust think it's i, i have serious doubts about this whole inquiry. and we were talking about it yesterday, weren't we, that it's just if it's something where you are learning lessons for how to deal with the next one, then great. but all th