. >> that's the lee cooperman thighs his, which he also laid out. what a day, by the way, on "squawk" this morning. it's not often you get tepper and cooperman on the same show, on the same day, on the same network. >> who said to you real quick, listen, there's still money to be made and you have to be really good at what you do. and if you are, you'll make it. >> all right. >> liesman, relatively cautious, in terms of a narrow band, 1,560 the upside. i would say taking dave's comments, increase them. if the economy grows, that 18 to 20 is on a much higher s&p earnings multiple, which gets you higher than probably thinking. >> i'm sweating this so they don't have to. i mean, that's the whole point. i have no -- i'm on the phone every day. we don't even know that. >> i'm going to save reading the intro. let's bring in our next guest. dick bove. you may know him, of course, as the influential banking analyst, but he had controversial statements today about where the market could go and where perhaps he thinks some in congress want it to go. dick's li