he worked for congressman lee hamilton. our next call is from connecticut. caller: i want to ask, i was following the arab spring and egypt just like that have been reading for the occupy wall street here in this country. i have heard the muslim brotherhood has been revamped and is much more moderate. i wonder if there is really a choice at all? the third candidate you were talking about, is he the candidates who would have mostly encapsulated the views of the people who were in the square? >> let's start with the muslim brotherhood briefly. i am not sure whether they have become moderate or not. they have always been a middle- class, conservative, don't rock the boat too much, nonviolent movement. by and large. we have seen that in all of the contentions -- all the contentious movements. they're appealing to the core segment of the supporters for this round of the election and focused on the application of sharia law. he had competition from a more liberal islamist who was doing quite well. he was ahead until two weeks ago. it is not clear that they have pr

president biden, senator mcconnell, governor daniels, former senator byatt, former congressman lee hamilton. to ask about the senator. one thing really striking is the type to benefit tell me about it kluger. almost everyone used the word statesmen. that was interesting because the frequency by which people use that term, but also given how rarely it is used now in american politics. in an interview i try to probe and get a sense of what they actually meant by the term and a lot of them didn't have real precise definitions. but as i thought about their comments and bought him a young, i developed a working definition of what a statesman is. it has four or five elements and i want to just kind of briefly present and this maybe provides a bit of a context of talk about the senator's career. the first one is a sense of working in the national interest, the long-term national interest that goes beyond the next election. i think it also requires a willingness to take a political risk. as we all know not a lot of people are eager to do that. a third element is a willingness to work with the other

lee hamilton said the centrifugal force in the country is growing stronger than the forces that holdhat is true. >> i've gotten away from britain -- [inaudible] [laughter] okay. i think we need to open it up now. if you want to ask questions. >> i think you need to go to a microphone. >> [inaudible] >> is this on? hi, i wanted to ask you a quick current political question as far as newt gingrich goes with santorum -- >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> i was going to ask you a strategy question if he has a chance, but given that, is what you see what you get on stage now? >> let me say this: to the to -- and i probably shouldn't be talking about msnbc, but i enjom working with her.pmúmúÑúmúmpÑúÑm i really enjoyed franklyúÑúm "morning show," it's like a comm artery, a group of guys thatúlúm grew up together that got intoúm fights and things but now theypm are getting older and they areúm doing their best to be nice toúm each other and make their pointÑ and a nice way.úÑú÷úm itú÷ is not crossfire but iúmúmm enjoyed it the show and my timem on msnbc. >> i'm sorry. his name. [laughter] >> chris

interviews with vice president biden, senator mcconnell, governor knowles, former congressman lee hamilton. to ask about the senator. one thing that was striking was to talk to them and asked them to tell me about richard lugar. almost everyone of them use the word statement. it is interesting because how rarely the word is used now in american politics. in an interview, i try to get a sense of what they actually meant by that the term. a lot of them didn't have real precise definitions. as i thought about their comments and thought on my own, i developed a working definition of what a statesman is. it has four or five elements that i want to briefly present. this may be providing a context about the senator's career. the first one is the sense of working in the national interest. the long-term national interests, and interest goes beyond the next election. i think it also requires a willingness to take some political risk. as we all know, not a lot of people are eager to do that. a third element is a willingness to work with the other party. perhaps that is even rarer now in american poli

interviews with vice president biden, senator mcconnell, governor knowles, former congressman lee hamilton. to ask about the senator. one thing that was striking was to talk to them and asked them to tell me about richard lugar. almost everyone of them use the word statement. it is interesting because how rarely the word is used now in american politics. in an interview, i try to get a sense of what they actually meant by that the term. a lot of them didn't have real precise definitions. as i thought about their comments and thought on my own, i developed a working definition of what a statesman is. it has four or five elements that i want to briefly present. this may be providing a context about the senator's career. the first one is the sense of working in the national interest. the long-term national interests, and interest goes beyond the next election. i think it also requires a willingness to take some political risk. as we all know, not a lot of people are eager to do that. a third element is a willingness to work with the other party. perhaps that is even rarer now in american poli

. -- the advisor to the united nations and also worked for a while for congressman lee hamilton.et's go to susan from hartford, connecticut. good morning, thanks for waiting. caller: hi, professor. i'm calling and i wanted to ask you, i was following the revolution, the arab spring in egypt just like i've been following and rooting for the occupy wall street here in this kunlt. -- country. so i kind of wondered. i heard that the muslim brotherhood has been revamped and it's much more moderate so i wondered is there really a choice at all? and why -- who -- is the third candidate you were talking about, is he the candidate that was, in your opinion, have mostly encapsulated the views of those valiant people who were in the square? guest: let's start with the muslim brotherhood briefly. i'm not sure how much they changed or whether they've become moderate or not moderate. they've always been actually a middle class conservative don't rock the boat too much nonviolent movement by and large. and you've seen that. even in all of the contentious issues that have emerged, they've never

homeland security and counter- terrorism and assistant to the president, and when i succeeded lee hamilton here at the wilson center last year. finally, when he became president obama's point person on counterterrorism strategy, and when the wilson center commenced a series of programs, which are still ongoing, the first of which we held on 9/12/2011, to ask what the next 10 years should look like and whether this country needs a clearer legal framework around domestic intelligence. clearly, the success story of the past decade is last may's takedown of osama bin laden. at the center of that effort were a senior security leadership of the country. i noticed dennis mcdonald in the audience, right here in the front row. certainly, it included president obama and john brennan. they made the tough calls. but i also know, and we all know, how selfless an extraordinary were the actions of on an intelligence officials and navy seals. the operation depended on their remarkable skills and personal courage. they performed the mission. the wilson center is honored to welcome john brennan here today o

for homeland security and counterterrorism and assistant to the president, and when i succeeded lee hamiltonere at the wilson center last year. finally, when he became president obama's point person on counterterrorism strategy and when the wilson center commenced a series of programs which are still ongoing, the fist of which -- the first of which we held on 9/12/2011 to ask what the next ten years should look like and whether this country needs a clearer legal framework around domestic intelligence. clearly, the success story of the past decade is last may's takedown of osama bin laden. at the center of that effort, were the senior security leadership of our country. i notice dennis mcdonough in the audience right here in the front row, and certainly it included president obama and john brennan. they made the tough calls. but i also know and we all know how selfless and extraordinary were the actions of unnamed intelligence officials and navy seals. the operation depended on their remarkable skills and personal courage. they informed the mission. the wilson center is honored to welcome joh

hamilton hit a double, setting an american league single game record of 18 total bases. >>> now to the nba playoffs. nuggets at lakers. it was a wild fourth quarter. denver's mcgee helping build a lee before kobe bryant went on a tear, hitting four three-pointers in the last five minutes. but the nuggets held on to win 102-99 and stay alive in the series. >>> in chicago, the bulls faced elimination by the 76ers but carlos boozer scored 19 points with 13 rebound, while deng led the bulls scoring with 24. and chicago won it 77-69. the sixers still lead the series 3-2. >>> in last night's other nba playoff games, indiana eliminated orlando with a 105-87 win. and atlanta got past boston 87-86. >>> in the nhl playoffs, the new jersey devils are going to the eastern conference finals. in the first period philadelphia's goalie tried to clear the puck but it bounced off the stick of the devils' david clarkson and into the goal. the devils won 3-1 to take the series. >>> when we return, deportation dilemma. american-born children are going to mexico in huge numbers as their parents are fwoersed on it of the united states. ...98, 99, 100! ready or not, here i come! ♪ found ya! you always fin