how could he ever know who his lee harvey oswald or his sirhan would be? these were unknown people watching from a distance. this is how he lived all of those years after 1963 and 196 after dallas and los angeles. and on the lookout. that's why he took so many different routes from his office across the street to the u.s. capitol. never the same ruth. varying his routine to give him that little edge against horror. and republican allan simpson we buicked kennedy, saying that person could not possibly have endure whad kennedy had to endure. and still perform day in and day out and certainly not at such a high level of political excellence. actually simpson was a lit m tougher but you get the point. there's another thing about ted kennedy that nobody seems to get. the guy, we know his flaws really did care about other people. i saw on numerous occasions he made a point to see that some bewildered person got a seat or calling somebody like me when we were sick. he was a kennedy and had to live up to that, his historic brothers, imagine that and then he had to

joe died fighting during world war ii and jack was killed by a real communist lover, lee harvey oswalden passed down in the belief system. i want you to go first, gene. how well will we be able to handle president obama this enormous responsibility of being the new brother? >> well, that's quite a responsibility. to be the keeper of the torch of camelot, i guess you would call it. it's a fascinating thing that such a torch exists. that there is this legacy that we all sense being passed down from holder to holder. clearly obama now is a reposito of the hopes and dreams of the people -- of the accolades of camelot, of the people who believe in that vision of america. but he's not of the family. there is not the sense of leagues that there was with the kennedys. and none of them had to do this. there was a sense that these were people of great privilege who were giving something to the country, their time, their effort. president obama is a different person. his story is no less inspiring and he's no less compelling as a personality. but it's a different sest circumstanset of circumstanc

joe died fighting during world war ii and jack was killed by a real communist lover, lee harvey oswald and bobby was killed supporting israel in the middle eests. these where is politically motivated killings. the youngest brother survived. your thoughts about the democratic leader, ted kennedy. >> the first thing that popped into my mind this morning when i heard had he died, chris, was perhaps inconveniently a line written by an englishman i thought at the end of hamlet when he dice and flights of angels sing me to thy rest not just perhaps because it's the most beautiful eulogy ever written but because hamlet was a prince and teddy was a prince in a family of kings and queens. his father was a king. his brother jack was a king. his brothers joe and bobby were supposed to be king but they died young. he was fated to be a prince and that's a much more difficult role to play and he -- it took him awhile to grow into it, to learn how to play that role. but he came to play it not just with tremendous grace as a leader as the leader of the democratic party as the soul of the democratic pa

want to, you know, be the first to get notoriety because they assassinate that person just as lee harvey oswald did with jfk way back. and the white house is sort of seen as a mecca for all these people who want to assassinate the president and it's a constant battle. meanwhile, the secret service has not only been cutting corners by not doing magnetometer screening but cut back on counter assault teams to two members instead of five. their firearms are not up to date in many cases. they don't even do physical training or firearms requalification on a regular basis and cover that up by having agents score themselves on these tests. >> your book has great anecdotes about the families and there's been a lot of reporting whether the bush twins, the girls were difficult to cover. what's the answer? >> they were a terror. they got better later on. >> they were? >> jenna especially would purposely evade the secret service 0 would go through red lights to evade her detail. she and her boyfriend who became her husband, henry hager became so drunk or he did at a halloween party the agents had to take hi

there's people like hinckley that are nuts, but generally it's people like lee harvey oswald, who hadfantasy, disillusioned with the soviet union, but he fell in love with castro. he thought kennedy was too tough. sirhan sirhan who didn't like bobby kennedy's middle east policy. it's not entirely insane this behavior. it is horrible, it's tragic, you could certainly say it's evil, but it does have a basis in politics, and i wonder whether people like the birther movement aren't giving people a license, to use your term, to do something awful. look at the guy who shot the guard at the holocaust museum and killed him. he was a birther. he is a birther. he's standing trial. that's his motive. >> yeah. that's absolutely true. i mean, yes, the answer is, yes, i think there is a kind of license giving in all of this. you know, what are you really saying? it seems to me a lot of people are raising the so-called issue of obama's country of birth really are talking about race. i mean, now, i'm not suggesting that every person who questions his birth certificate is the klansman in disguise, but

now, whether he thought that whoever did it, and i'm not saying it was lee harvey oswald, because i'm not sure it was, but whoever he did it he assumed was after a president, not that president. or at least he wanted me to think that. now, it's four years later, we're in san francisco, cow palace, he's being made up again by franny to go out on the rostrum and introduce the nominee, barry goldwater. and again i said, you know, mr. nixon, if you would have let franny make you up four years ago, barry goldwater would be going out there now to introduce you. and he stopped, and he looked in the mirror at himself for maybe 10 seconds, turned around and he said to me, you know, you're probably right. one other makeup story, i can't prove this, i think i'm responsible for the nixon's house in key discane -- biscayne, florida and orange county, california, because i once told him if he had a good tan he wouldn't need makeup, and i think that's why he moved to the sun. >> the clintons and james carvel. >> james carvel -- listen, to show you how down the middle i am, i have never heard james c