mom and merit -- mohammed merad, and of course lee rigby, who was killed on 11 street last year. >> thesendividuals seduced by this islamist ideology. >> a crucial part of all of this. >> and we saw that black flags unfurled of the coffee shop in sydney earlier and people said, oh, no, this is the work of the islamic state group, the extreme group that syrian -- that seized territory in iraq. it turns out this is not the case. everyone is poised for an attack by this group. that is understandable, isn't it? >> it is particularly understandable given that this was the site of a foiled plot that apparently involved an attempt of snatching a member of the public and carrying out a public beheading in this exact place, martin place. a lot has been made out about specific isis threats against australia. it would not be surprising for people to draw a parallel between the flag put out in this cafe and the isis flag but we could stress they are not at all the same thing. the flag this man put out in the cafe has a basic phrase that is common to all muslims regardless of whether they are shiites